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Anna Kerber

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Has anyone actually formed their LLC structure this way, with one disregarded LLC owning another? I'm curious how you handled the paperwork. When filing articles of organization for the second LLC, do you list the first LLC as the member, or do you still list yourself?

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Niko Ramsey

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I did this last year. For the articles of organization, I listed my first LLC as the member/owner of the second LLC. But on my tax return, both businesses' income ended up on my personal 1040 (separate Schedule Cs). Just make sure all your organizational documents clearly show the ownership structure.

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Carmen Diaz

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This is a great discussion! I've been considering a similar structure for my photography business and a separate e-commerce venture. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you keep meticulous separate records for each LLC even though they're both disregarded entities. The IRS may disregard them for tax purposes, but if you ever face an audit or legal challenge, you'll want crystal clear documentation showing that these are truly separate business activities. Keep separate bank accounts, separate bookkeeping, separate contracts - treat them as completely independent businesses operationally even if they're connected ownership-wise. Also, consider whether you might want to elect S-Corp status for either LLC down the road as your businesses grow. Having the separate entity structure already in place gives you more flexibility for tax planning in the future without having to restructure everything.

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Emma Anderson

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This is excellent advice about record keeping! I'm actually in a similar boat - just starting to explore this structure for my consulting business and a potential retail venture. The point about S-Corp election flexibility is something I hadn't considered. Quick question - when you mention keeping separate bank accounts, do you mean the first LLC should have its own account, and then the second LLC (owned by the first) should also have its own separate account? Or would it be acceptable for the first LLC's account to handle transactions for both since it owns the second? I'm trying to understand the practical day-to-day banking logistics of this setup before I commit to the structure.

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Dylan Baskin

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Has anyone had luck deducting part of their cell phone bill for delivery work? I use my phone constantly for the apps, GPS, customer communication etc.

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Lauren Wood

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Absolutely! I deduct 80% of my phone bill since I'm on the delivery apps all day. As long as you can reasonably estimate what percentage is used for business, you can deduct that portion.

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Maya Jackson

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Great question! Yes, you definitely should be tracking your mileage for 1099 delivery work - it's one of the biggest deductions you can take. Here's what I recommend: **For odometer readings:** You don't need to record it for every single trip, but do take photos of your odometer at the beginning and end of each work day, plus at the start/end of each year. This gives you solid documentation. **What to track for each delivery:** - Date and time - Starting point and destination - Miles driven (business purpose) - Total miles for the day **Pro tip:** Stop estimating immediately! The IRS can be strict about mileage deductions, and estimates won't hold up in an audit. Either use a mileage tracking app (like Stride, Everlance, or MileIQ) or keep a simple log in your car. You can choose between the standard mileage rate (67Β’/mile for 2024) or actual vehicle expenses - the standard rate is usually better for delivery drivers and much simpler to track. Since you just started last month, you can still go back and reconstruct your mileage using your delivery app records, bank statements, and any receipts you have. Better to get organized now than scramble at tax time!

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Aircraft Leaseback Schedule C Questions - Need Help With Business Codes and Depreciation

I'm in a bit of a panic mode right now. I filed an extension earlier this year to get things sorted with a CPA and learn more about tax laws for my situation, but I got completely sidetracked. Now with only 2 days left to file, I'm scrambling to submit something reasonably accurate, pay whatever I owe, and then have a professional file an amended return later (I'm stuck in another state for pilot recertification training for another week, so I can't even meet with anyone in person). My situation: I'm a certified aircraft mechanic, but I also have a single-member LLC that owns a small Cessna. The plane is on a marketing agreement with a local flying club. I do maintenance work for the club too, including on my own aircraft (when I work on my own plane, I'm technically billed as a club employee but at $0 labor rate). The way it's structured, my LLC doesn't directly handle any customer payments or vendor bills - the flying club manages all that and we reconcile periodically. I've documented well over 500 hours invested in furthering my business activities, so I'm confident my LLC won't be classified as a hobby. I understand I'll owe taxes on the payments from the club, which is fine. My problem is with Schedule C - this is my first time filling it out without help, and there's practically no guidance specific to aviation leasebacks. Two main questions: 1. What business code should I use? Nothing seems to fit my situation exactly, so I'm guessing maybe 99999 for "other"? 2. For depreciation purposes, I'm completely lost on how to classify the aircraft. What asset type would an airplane on a leaseback arrangement be considered?

Has anyone used any particular tax software that handles aircraft leasebacks well? I tried TurboTax last year and it was clueless about how to handle my Cirrus SR22 leaseback situation. I ended up with a mess of misclassified items.

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PixelPrincess

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I've found TaxAct's business version handles it reasonably well, but you still need to know what you're doing. The key is selecting the right business code (532400) and then manually entering all the right expense categories. No consumer software really "understands" aviation businesses specifically.

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LunarEclipse

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I've been through this exact situation with my Cherokee Six on leaseback! A few additional points that might help with your tight deadline: For your Schedule C, make sure you're tracking your business miles separately from personal flying hours. The IRS distinguishes between transportation to/from the aircraft for business purposes versus recreational flying. Keep a detailed logbook. Since you mentioned you're doing maintenance work through the club at $0 labor rate, document this arrangement very carefully. Consider having the club issue you a 1099 for the fair market value of your services, then you can deduct that same amount as a business expense for maintenance. This creates a clear paper trail that the IRS can follow. One thing that saved me during an audit - keep detailed records of every communication with the flying club about scheduling, maintenance, and financial arrangements. Email chains, work orders, flight schedules, all of it. The IRS wants to see that this is a genuine business relationship, not just cost-sharing among pilot friends. Also, don't panic about filing something "reasonably accurate" now and amending later. As long as you're making a good faith effort with the information you have, you won't face penalties. The amended return route is actually pretty common for complex aviation businesses.

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about the detailed documentation! I'm curious about the 1099 approach for the $0 labor rate maintenance work - wouldn't that create a wash situation where I'm reporting income and then deducting the same amount? Does the IRS actually prefer this approach over just documenting the arrangement as part of the leaseback agreement? Also, you mentioned keeping records of communications with the flying club. Should I be documenting my maintenance hours differently when I'm working on my own aircraft versus other club planes? I want to make sure I'm clearly separating business activities from what could be seen as personal aircraft ownership costs. With only 2 days left to file, I'm trying to prioritize which documentation is absolutely critical versus what I can clean up for the amended return later.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! Got my CP14 notice last week even though I've been faithfully making my monthly payments since February. It's such a relief to see I'm not the only one this has happened to. What really helped me was logging into my IRS online account like Jamal mentioned - it clearly showed my installment agreement was still active and all my payments were recorded. That gave me some peace of mind while I worked up the courage to call them. I finally got through yesterday using the early morning strategy (called at 7:15 AM EST) and the agent was actually really understanding. She confirmed that these notices are generated automatically and don't account for active payment plans. She put a note on my account to prevent any collection actions and said I should stop receiving the notices within 4-6 weeks. One thing she told me that I hadn't seen mentioned here - if you get any additional notices while this is being sorted out, there's a specific line on the CP14 that says something like "If you have an installment agreement, disregard this notice." It's in small print near the bottom, but it's there for exactly these situations. Keep making your payments and don't stress too much about it. The system is just slow to catch up!

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PaulineW

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This is so helpful to hear about your experience! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - got a CP14 notice even though I've been making payments on my installment plan for months. I was panicking thinking I'd somehow messed up my agreement. That's really good to know about the small print on the notice saying to disregard it if you have an installment agreement. I need to go back and look for that on mine - I was so stressed when I first read it that I might have missed it completely. Did the agent give you any kind of reference number or confirmation that she put the note on your account? I'm planning to call them this week and want to make sure I have everything documented properly in case I need to call back again. Thanks for sharing the early morning tip too - I'll definitely try that approach!

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Simon White

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually going through this exact situation right now - got a CP14 notice yesterday despite having an active payment plan since March. Reading everyone's experiences has really calmed my nerves. I wanted to add one thing that might help others: when I set up my installment agreement, I took screenshots of every confirmation page and saved the PDF of the agreement itself. I also set up email notifications for each payment through my bank so I have a paper trail showing exactly when each payment was processed. The timing issue makes so much sense now that everyone's explained it. I was worried I'd done something wrong, but it sounds like this is just how their systems work (or don't work together). I'm going to try calling early tomorrow morning with all my documentation ready. For anyone else dealing with this - definitely keep making your payments like everyone said. I almost considered stopping them thinking my plan was canceled, which would have been a huge mistake. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially about the specific wording to use when calling!

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Paolo Ricci

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Has anyone here successfully used a vehicle under 6,000 lbs for a business deduction recently? What documentation did you need during tax time? My tax guy is telling me one thing but what I'm reading online is different.

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Amina Toure

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I've been doing this for years with my consulting business. The absolute MOST IMPORTANT thing is a mileage log with dates, starting/ending odometer readings, destinations, and business purpose. I use an app called MileIQ that tracks it automatically. I do actual expenses because I drive a fairly expensive but small SUV, so I also keep all receipts for gas, insurance, repairs, etc. in a folder. My tax person told me the IRS loves to audit vehicle deductions so I'm super careful with documentation.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Great question! I've been dealing with this exact situation for my marketing consultancy. You're absolutely right that vehicles under 6,000 lbs can still qualify for business deductions - just not the full Section 179 treatment that the heavy trucks get. For your photography business with 80% business use, here's what I've learned: **Standard Mileage vs. Actual Expenses:** - Standard mileage is simpler (currently $0.67/mile for 2024, likely similar for 2025) - Actual expenses can be better if you have a pricier vehicle or high maintenance costs - You can't switch between methods once you choose for a specific vehicle **Key things for vehicles under 6,000 lbs:** - Annual depreciation limits apply (around $19,200 first year max, then lower amounts in subsequent years) - You'll depreciate over 5 years using MACRS - Keep detailed mileage logs from day one - this is crucial for audits **My recommendation:** Run the numbers both ways before deciding. For a reliable crossover/sedan with 80% business use, actual expenses often work better than mileage if you're buying new or newer used. Also, consider timing your purchase - if you buy late in the year, you might want to wait until January to maximize your first-year deduction under the half-year convention rules. Document everything religiously - the IRS scrutinizes vehicle deductions heavily!

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Amina Diop

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was hoping to find! As someone new to business vehicle deductions, the timing aspect you mentioned is really interesting. Can you explain more about the "half-year convention rules"? I'm planning to purchase in December - would it really be better to wait until January? Also, when you say "run the numbers both ways," is there a simple way to estimate which method might work better before I commit to one approach?

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