Friend just received a CP140 notice dated 2019 for 2013 tax season - but addressed to wrong business?
Just need some help figuring out if this CP140 notice my buddy got is legit or some kind of scam. The notice seems official based on the numbers, but there are several weird things about it. First off, it's dated 2019 but is for the 2013 tax year, and he just got it yesterday in the mail. Seems really fishy. My friend has always used H&R Block for his taxes, so why would he even get a CP140? When I checked the phone numbers on the notice, they do match with the IRS. The private debt collector listed is Performant Recovery Inc. I actually called them and they told me they no longer have a contract with the IRS (verified this by calling the IRS directly too). Here's what's REALLY weird - the CP140 is addressed to a business at a shared office space where my friend used to work. His mail gets forwarded from there to his house now. But the letter is addressed to a business he never worked for! (He's an actor, not an engineer). I keep telling him to contact a taxpayer advocate, but he's being super stubborn. I'm pretty sure a CP140 addressed to a business shouldn't be something an individual with zero connection to that business would be responsible for, right? I have a copy of the notice I can share privately (with the tax ID info blacked out) if anyone needs to see it to understand what I'm talking about.
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NebulaNinja
This definitely sounds suspicious. A CP140 notice is essentially a notification that your unpaid tax debt has been assigned to a private collection agency. There are several red flags here: 1) The significant time delay between the tax year (2013), the notice date (2019), and receipt (just now) is unusual. The IRS typically sends these notices more promptly. 2) The fact that the notice is addressed to a business your friend never worked for is the biggest concern. This strongly suggests either a mistake or potentially a scam. 3) Performant Recovery was indeed a legitimate private debt collector that worked with the IRS previously, but they are no longer under contract as you verified. Your friend should absolutely not pay anything based on this notice. He should contact the IRS directly using the official number from the IRS website (not from the letter) to verify whether he actually owes anything. He should also request a taxpayer advocate as you suggested. It's possible this is a case of mistaken identity, mail fraud, or even identity theft where someone has connected your friend's information to a business tax liability.
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Luca Russo
•If it's addressed to a business he never worked for, wouldn't that mean he's not responsible for it? Also, what happens if he just ignores it since it doesn't have his name on it? I'm confused about why he's even worried.
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NebulaNinja
•Even though it's addressed to a business he never worked for, ignoring it completely could be risky if there's been some kind of mix-up in the IRS systems that somehow links him to this debt. The IRS might believe he has a connection to this business. The safest approach is to contact the IRS directly to clarify the situation and have them document that he has no association with the business in question. This creates a record of him addressing the issue, which can protect him from future complications.
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Ethan Clark
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•How does this actually work? It sounds sketchy to have some third party calling the IRS on your behalf when this involves personal tax information.
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Carmen Vega
This sounds like a classic case of mail fraud or potential identity theft. The CP140 is specifically for taxpayers whose unpaid tax debts have been assigned to private collection agencies. Here are some important things your friend should do immediately: 1. Get a free credit report to check for any other signs of identity theft 2. File a report with the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) at 1-800-366-4484 3. Contact the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 1-800-908-4490 4. Consider placing a credit freeze with the major credit bureaus The fact that the notice is addressed to a business but somehow got forwarded to him is extremely suspicious. Private collection agencies don't typically handle business tax debts, so this whole thing doesn't add up.
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Zara Mirza
•Thanks for the detailed advice! I'll pass this along to my friend. Do you think there's any possibility this is legitimate? Like maybe the business listed was a client of his at some point and there's some weird tax connection? He's being really weird about the whole thing which makes me wonder if there's something he's not telling me.
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Carmen Vega
•There's a small possibility it could be legitimate if there was some connection between your friend and this business that you're unaware of. For example, if he ever worked as an independent contractor for them, was briefly on their payroll, or had some financial arrangement where his tax information became linked with theirs in the IRS system. The fact that he's being "weird" about it and reluctant to take action is concerning. Sometimes people avoid addressing tax issues because they're anxious about what might be uncovered. Encourage him to be completely truthful with the IRS - trying to hide information will only make matters worse. If there is some connection he hasn't disclosed, it's better to address it directly than let it potentially escalate.
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Andre Rousseau
Has your friend checked his transcript from the IRS? That would show if he actually has any outstanding tax debt from 2013. He can get it online at irs.gov/transcripts if he can verify his identity, or request it by mail. That would be my first step before doing anything else.
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Zoe Stavros
•This 100%. The transcript will show all notices ever sent to him by the IRS and any assessments from 2013. Its the fastest way to see if this is legit or not. Just pulling the transcript will save so much time.
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Nia Wilson
This is definitely a red flag situation that needs immediate attention. A few key points that stand out: 1. The timeline is extremely suspicious - a 2019-dated notice for 2013 taxes arriving in 2025 is not normal IRS procedure. 2. Most importantly, if the notice is addressed to a business your friend never worked for or had any connection to, he should NOT be receiving it at all. This could indicate mail fraud, identity theft, or a serious administrative error. 3. Since Performant Recovery no longer has an IRS contract (which you verified), any attempt to collect based on this notice would be fraudulent. Your friend needs to act quickly but carefully: - Do NOT pay anything or provide any personal information to anyone calling about this notice - Contact the IRS directly using the official number from their website (not the number on the notice) - Request his tax transcripts to verify if he actually owes anything from 2013 - File a report with TIGTA (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration) about the suspicious notice - Consider contacting a taxpayer advocate as you suggested The fact that he's being reluctant to address this is concerning. Sometimes people avoid tax issues due to anxiety, but ignoring this could make things much worse if there's any legitimacy to it or if someone is using his information fraudulently.
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Sayid Hassan
•Just wanted to chime in as someone new here - this whole situation sounds really alarming! I'm not a tax expert, but even I can see that receiving a notice for a business you never worked for is a huge red flag. The timeline alone (2013 → 2019 → 2025) makes no sense for legitimate IRS correspondence. I'm curious though - has anyone else here dealt with mail forwarding issues that led to getting tax documents for random businesses? It seems like such a specific and weird problem. Also, is there any chance this could be related to the shared office space somehow? Like maybe someone at that location used your friend's address incorrectly on tax documents? Either way, definitely agree he needs to stop being stubborn and contact the IRS directly. Better safe than sorry when it comes to potential identity theft!
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