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Amara Okafor

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One thing to remember is that any money withheld from an IRA conversion for taxes counts as taxes paid on April 15th of the following year, not when the withholding actually happens. So if you do a conversion in January 2025 with withholding, that withholding counts as paid on April 15, 2026 for purposes of estimated tax requirements. This can mess up your estimated tax calculations if you're not aware of it!

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That doesn't sound right... I thought withholding from any source is treated as if it occurred evenly throughout the year, even if it happened all at once? That's what my CPA told me.

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Amara Okafor

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You're absolutely right, and I misspoke - thank you for the correction! IRA withholding is indeed treated as tax paid throughout the year, even if it happens in a single transaction. I was confusing it with estimated tax payments, which are attributed to specific quarterly due dates. This is actually beneficial because it helps avoid underpayment penalties that might otherwise occur from a large one-time income event. The IRS considers withholding to have occurred evenly throughout the year regardless of when it actually happened.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Great question! I went through this same process last year and learned some important details the hard way. Yes, you absolutely need to report the full conversion amount as taxable income - including any withholding. So if you convert $50,000 and have $10,000 withheld for taxes, you'll report $50,000 as income on Form 8606 and your 1040. The $10,000 withholding will show up as taxes paid on your W-2 equivalent form (1099-R). Regarding refunds - any overpayment comes back to you as a regular tax refund, not back into your IRA. Once money leaves the IRA as withholding, it's gone from your retirement account permanently. One thing I wish I'd known: if you're under 59.5, the withheld amount may be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty since it's not going into the Roth. I ended up paying the conversion taxes from my regular savings account to avoid this issue and maximize what actually gets converted to the Roth. Consider doing a test run with a smaller amount first to see how the tax treatment works out before doing your full conversion!

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Caleb Bell

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This is really helpful advice about doing a test run with a smaller amount first! I'm also under 59.5 and hadn't considered the early withdrawal penalty on the withheld portion. Quick question - when you paid the taxes from your regular savings instead of having them withheld, did you just make estimated tax payments, or did you wait until you filed your return? I'm trying to figure out the timing since I don't want to get hit with underpayment penalties either. Also, did you find the 1099-R form straightforward to understand when it came time to file? I've heard they can be confusing for conversions.

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Isabella Silva

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anybody else's WMR still showing 'being processed'? verified 3 weeks ago and nothings changed

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Ravi Choudhury

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same boat. WMR hasnt updated since february πŸ™„

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Liam Brown

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I'm going through the same thing right now - completed ID.me verification about 18 days ago and still waiting on the letter. My tax pro told me that the IRS has been running behind on sending these verification letters this season, but as long as your ID.me verification was successful, you should be good. The letter is more of a formality to confirm the process completed. Have you been able to access your online account transcript since verifying? That's usually a good sign that everything went through properly.

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Madison King

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@Liam Brown that s'really helpful to know! I haven t'tried checking my online account transcript yet - completely forgot about that. Will definitely give that a try today to see if the verification shows up there. Thanks for the tip about it being more of a formality too, that makes me feel better about the wait time πŸ™

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Khalil Urso

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue! Filed on February 12th with Child Tax Credit for my twin boys (ages 4 and 6), and I've been stuck on "accepted" status for 12 days now with a refund of about $4,200. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. I had absolutely no idea about the mandatory hold period for Child Tax Credit returns or that the IRS implemented stricter fraud detection this year. I was starting to worry I'd made some major error on my return. Just created my IRS online account after seeing how many people recommended checking the tax transcript instead of relying on that "Where's My Refund" tool. You're all absolutely right - it provides so much more detailed information! Found some processing codes that actually give me hope there's movement happening behind the scenes. It's such a relief to know this is happening to so many people and that most are getting approved after 3-4 weeks. The waiting is definitely stressful when you're counting on that money for important expenses, but knowing it's just extra verification rather than a problem with my return makes it much more bearable. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories - this community support makes all the difference during tax season!

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Grace Johnson

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Welcome to the club! I'm in almost the exact same boat - filed on February 15th with Child Tax Credit for my 8-year-old, and it's been "accepted" for 9 days now. My refund is around $3,600. This thread has been such a game-changer for understanding what's actually happening. Like you, I had no clue about any of these hold periods or enhanced verification processes. I was checking that "Where's My Refund" tool obsessively every day getting more anxious when nothing changed! Just got my IRS account set up after reading everyone's advice here. The transcript definitely shows more activity than that useless refund tracker. Seeing actual processing codes makes me feel like something is actually happening rather than my return just sitting in limbo somewhere. It's amazing how much better it feels knowing we're all going through this together. The uncertainty was killing me since I really need this refund for some medical bills that are due soon. But hearing that people are consistently getting approved after a few weeks, even with Child Tax Credit claims, gives me hope we'll all see movement soon. Thanks for sharing your experience and adding to this incredibly helpful thread!

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Emma Davis

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I'm going through this exact situation too! Filed on February 5th with Child Tax Credit for my 7-year-old, and I've been stuck on "accepted" for 19 days now. My refund is about $3,100. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - I honestly had no idea about the mandatory hold periods for Child Tax Credit returns or the enhanced fraud detection systems the IRS implemented this year. I was starting to panic thinking I'd screwed something up on my return! Just set up my IRS online account after seeing so many people recommend checking the tax transcript. What a difference compared to that "Where's My Refund" tool that basically tells you nothing! I can actually see processing codes and dates that give me some sense of what's happening behind the scenes. It's such a relief to know this delay is completely normal this year, especially for returns claiming the Child Tax Credit. Reading everyone's experiences - people waiting 3-4 weeks and then getting approved - gives me so much hope. The uncertainty was really getting to me since I need this refund to cover some unexpected car repairs. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories and advice. Knowing we're all in the same boat makes this waiting game so much more manageable. Fingers crossed we all see our refunds approved soon!

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Got my verification letter about 2 weeks ago and completed the ID.me process immediately. It's so stressful not knowing when to expect the refund, especially when you're counting on that money. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like it really varies - some people get it in 2-3 weeks, others wait months. I'm going to start checking my transcript weekly like others suggested since that seems to update before the Where's My Refund tool. Thanks for posting this question - it's helpful to know I'm not alone in this frustrating process!

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You're definitely not alone! I'm in a similar situation - just finished my verification about a week ago and the waiting is driving me crazy. It's reassuring to see that most people seem to get their refunds within 2-6 weeks, even if some take longer. I've been obsessively checking the Where's My Refund tool but after reading these comments I'm going to focus on the transcript instead. The anxiety of not knowing is the worst part! Hoping we both get good news soon 🀞

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Olivia Clark

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I went through ID verification last year and it took about 5 weeks to get my refund after completing the process. The waiting is absolutely nerve-wracking, especially when you're depending on that money! A few things that helped me stay sane: 1) Check your account transcript every Friday (it updates overnight Thursday-Friday), 2) Don't bother with Where's My Refund - it's always behind, 3) Look for code 846 on your transcript which means refund issued. Once I saw that code, my money was in my account within a week. The IRS says up to 9 weeks but most people I know got theirs between 3-6 weeks. Hang in there - it will come! Just try not to check every single day because that'll drive you crazy.

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Hazel Garcia

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to checking transcripts - where exactly do I look for that 846 code? Is it obvious when it shows up or do I need to know what section to look in? I just completed my verification yesterday so I'm trying to prepare myself for the waiting game ahead. The Friday checking schedule is a great tip too - I was planning to check daily but you're right that would probably make me more anxious!

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Chloe Harris

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This is such a comprehensive discussion - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences! As someone who just received my first K-1 with Box 11 entries, I was completely lost until I found this thread. I want to emphasize something that really helped me understand the situation: the distinction between "for AGI" and "from AGI" deductions that was mentioned earlier. Box 11A deductions are "for AGI" (above-the-line), which means they reduce your adjusted gross income and can be taken regardless of whether you itemize. Box 11B deductions are "from AGI" (below-the-line), which means they can only be taken if you itemize and your total itemized deductions exceed the standard deduction. This framework helped me understand why the tax code treats these two types of deductions differently - it's not arbitrary, it's based on fundamental tax principles about when and how different types of deductions can be claimed. For anyone still struggling with this decision, I'd strongly recommend using the comparison approach that several people mentioned. Calculate your total potential itemized deductions (including Box 11B) versus your standard deduction amount, and don't forget to factor in the Box 11A deduction that you get to claim either way on Schedule 1. Most importantly, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Even if you can't claim every possible deduction, you're likely still getting a substantial tax benefit from the standard deduction plus the Box 11A amount.

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Yara Sayegh

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed! The "for AGI" vs "from AGI" distinction makes so much sense when you put it that way. I've been staring at my K-1 for days trying to figure out why the IRS would split these deductions into two boxes, but understanding the underlying tax principles really helps. Your point about not letting perfect be the enemy of good really resonates with me. I was getting so caught up in potentially "losing" the Box 11B deduction that I almost forgot I'm still getting a significant benefit from the standard deduction plus the Box 11A amount. I'm definitely going to do that comparison calculation you and others have mentioned. It sounds like in most cases, the math works out in favor of the standard deduction anyway. Thanks for helping a K-1 newbie understand what seemed like an impossibly complicated situation!

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I've been dealing with K-1s for several years now and wanted to add one more perspective that might help. While everyone has correctly explained that Box 11B deductions can only be claimed if you itemize, there's one scenario worth considering that hasn't been fully explored. If you're close to the threshold where itemizing might make sense, don't forget to factor in any state tax benefits. Some states have different rules for itemized deductions or lower standard deduction amounts. In rare cases, you might find that itemizing makes sense at the state level even if it doesn't at the federal level, or vice versa. Also, if you have significant charitable contributions planned for the current tax year, you might want to consider bunching strategies. For example, if you're planning to make charitable donations over the next couple of years, you could potentially bunch them into the current year along with your Box 11B deduction to push your itemized deductions above the standard deduction threshold. That said, I want to echo what others have mentioned - in the vast majority of cases, you'll still come out ahead with the standard deduction even without being able to claim Box 11B. The standard deduction amounts have increased significantly in recent years and are designed to provide a good baseline benefit for most taxpayers. The most important thing is not to miss that Box 11A deduction on Schedule 1, line 24k. That's a valuable above-the-line deduction that reduces your AGI regardless of whether you itemize or take the standard deduction.

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