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Dmitry Sokolov

Do 403b Plan Contributions Lower MAGI for Educational Opportunity Credits?

I'm trying to figure out how to keep our MAGI under the threshold for my kids' educational opportunity credits. My husband and I both work in education - I'm a high school counselor and he teaches math at a middle school in San Diego. We're looking at about $24,000 in qualified educational expenses this year between our two college students. The thing is, we're getting close to the MAGI limit where the credits would start phasing out. We're both part of CalSTRS (California State Teachers' Retirement System), but I'm wondering if increasing our contributions to our 403b plans would help lower our MAGI specifically for the educational opportunity credit calculations. Does anyone know if 403b contributions reduce MAGI when it comes to figuring out eligibility for education credits? I've been getting conflicting info and the IRS publication isn't super clear to me. Thanks for any help!

Ava Martinez

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Yes, your 403b contributions will definitely lower your MAGI for educational opportunity credits! Pre-tax contributions to retirement accounts like a 403b reduce your adjusted gross income (AGI), which directly impacts your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI). For education credits specifically (like the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit), MAGI is calculated by taking your AGI and adding back certain deductions - but 403b contributions remain excluded. This means every dollar you contribute to your 403b plans will effectively lower your MAGI for determining education credit eligibility. As educators in California with CalSTRS, you can still make these 403b contributions alongside your mandatory state retirement contributions. Just make sure you stay within the annual contribution limits ($23,000 for 2025, plus an additional $7,500 if you're 50 or older).

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Miguel Ramos

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Thanks for this info! Quick follow-up question - does this also apply to 457b plans? My district offers both 403b and 457b options and I'm trying to figure out which one makes more sense. Also, do you know if Roth 403b contributions have the same effect on MAGI?

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Ava Martinez

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Yes, contributions to a 457b plan will also reduce your MAGI for education credit purposes in the same way as 403b contributions. Both types of plans offer pre-tax contributions that lower your AGI and subsequently your MAGI. However, Roth 403b or Roth 457b contributions will NOT lower your MAGI because these are after-tax contributions. If your primary goal is reducing MAGI to qualify for education credits, you'll want to focus on traditional pre-tax contributions rather than Roth options.

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CosmicCowboy

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A tip for California educators specifically: don't forget that your mandatory CalSTRS contributions also reduce your AGI/MAGI! I'm also a teacher in California and learned this the hard way. For 2025, with the CalSTRS 2% at 62 benefit structure, your mandatory contribution is 10.205% of your creditable compensation. This is a pre-tax deduction that reduces your MAGI along with any voluntary 403b contributions. Combined, these can make a significant difference in keeping you under the education credit thresholds.

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Thank you for pointing that out! I completely forgot to consider our mandatory CalSTRS contributions. We're both in the 2% at 60 structure (started teaching before 2013), so our contribution rate is slightly different, but it still helps reduce our MAGI. Do you know if there are any California-specific tax credits or deductions for educational expenses that might help us too? I've been focusing on the federal credits but wondering if I'm missing something at the state level.

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CosmicCowboy

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You're welcome! Yes, the 2% at 60 structure has a slightly different contribution rate (10.25% for 2025), but it still makes a meaningful difference in your MAGI calculation. Unfortunately, California doesn't offer education tax credits that are as generous as the federal ones. There's no direct equivalent to the American Opportunity Credit at the state level. However, California does conform to many federal tax provisions, so the MAGI reduction from your retirement contributions will help with your state taxes too. You might also want to look into the College Access Tax Credit Fund, which offers a credit for contributions that help low-income California students attend college, though this doesn't directly relate to your children's expenses.

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Amina Diallo

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Just want to clarify something about the American Opportunity Credit since we're talking about MAGI limits... The phaseout starts at $160,000 for married filing jointly in 2025 and completely phases out at $180,000. For Lifetime Learning Credit, it's the same thresholds. So if your household MAGI is getting close to $160k, every dollar you contribute to pre-tax retirement accounts could help preserve those credits! Max AOC is $2,500 per eligible student, so with two college students, you're potentially looking at $5,000 in tax credits. Definitely worth managing your MAGI!

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Oliver Schulz

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Is there an income limit for the student? My daughter makes about $8,000 a year from her part-time job while in college. Does that affect our ability to claim the credit?

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Your daughter's income doesn't directly affect your ability to claim the American Opportunity Credit! The income limits for education credits are based on your (the parents') MAGI, not the student's earnings. However, there are a few things to keep in mind: First, if your daughter earned $8,000, she'll likely need to file her own tax return. Second, and more importantly, you need to make sure she doesn't claim herself as an exemption on her own return if you're planning to claim her as a dependent and take the education credit. As long as you're providing more than half of her support and she meets the other dependency tests, you can claim her as a dependent and take the education credit based on your MAGI thresholds, regardless of her part-time job income.

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