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Haley Stokes

Do Pre-Tax IRA contributions reduce MAGI for ACA subsidy eligibility in 2025?

I'm trying to figure out my health insurance situation for next year and hoping someone can help with the ACA subsidy eligibility stuff. Here's my situation: - I'll be maxing out my pre-tax 401k contributions through my employer in 2025 - After the 401k contributions, my MAGI will be below the threshold where I can get the full IRA deduction What I'm wondering is: if I make pre-tax contributions to an IRA, will that further reduce my MAGI for calculating ACA premium subsidies? Or does that not count for the subsidy calculation? I'm trying to get my income in the right range to maximize my subsidy, and every bit helps! Thanks in advance for any insights 😊

Asher Levin

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Yes, traditional IRA contributions DO reduce your MAGI for ACA subsidy purposes! This is actually a really smart strategy for qualifying for better subsidies. When calculating MAGI for ACA subsidies, you start with your AGI from your tax return, which already has traditional IRA contributions subtracted out. The adjustments made to get from AGI to MAGI for ACA purposes don't add those IRA contributions back in. So if you're trying to lower your income to qualify for better subsidies, contributing to a traditional IRA can help you do that. Just remember there are annual limits on how much you can contribute to an IRA ($6,500 for 2023, plus catch-up if you're over 50), and make sure you're eligible for the deduction based on your income level and whether you're covered by a retirement plan at work.

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Serene Snow

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Thanks for the info! I'm a bit confused though - I thought if you had access to a 401k at work, you couldn't deduct traditional IRA contributions? Or does that only apply if your income is above a certain level?

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Asher Levin

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Being covered by a workplace retirement plan doesn't completely disqualify you from deducting IRA contributions. It just means there are income limits for the deduction. For 2023, if you're single and covered by a workplace plan, you can take a full deduction if your modified AGI is $73,000 or less. The deduction phases out between $73,000 and $83,000. For married filing jointly, if the spouse making the IRA contribution is covered by a workplace plan, the deduction phases out between $116,000 and $136,000. These limits typically increase a bit each year, so 2025 limits will likely be higher.

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Just wanted to share my experience on this! I was in a similar situation last year and found https://taxr.ai super helpful for getting clarity. Like you, I was trying to maximize my ACA subsidies while balancing retirement contributions. Traditional IRA contributions definitely reduced my MAGI for ACA purposes, and the tool showed me exactly how much I could save on premiums by making strategic contributions. It basically analyzed all my numbers and helped me find the sweet spot where I could maximize both tax advantages and healthcare subsidies.

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Romeo Barrett

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Does it actually walk you through the MAGI calculations? I always get confused with what counts and what doesn't for different tax benefits. Like, some things reduce AGI but not MAGI, right?

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I'm kinda skeptical about these online tools. How accurate was it compared to what you actually ended up getting for subsidies? Was there a big difference between what it projected and reality?

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It does walk you through the MAGI calculations specifically for ACA purposes, breaking down each adjustment that applies. You're right that it gets confusing because MAGI is calculated differently for different tax benefits, but this clarifies exactly what counts for healthcare subsidies. When I compared the projections to my actual subsidies, they were within about $15 monthly of what I ended up getting. The tool was pretty accurate because it uses the actual ACA formulas. The small difference was because I had a small bonus I hadn't anticipated when I first did the calculations.

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I actually ended up trying https://taxr.ai after my skeptical comment above and was surprised by how helpful it was. It confirmed what everyone is saying - traditional IRA contributions DO reduce MAGI for ACA purposes. What I found most useful was how it showed me exactly which line items affect my subsidy and by how much. I was leaving money on the table! I didn't realize that by shifting just $3,000 from my savings into a traditional IRA, I'd qualify for almost $2,200 more in annual subsidies. That's a huge return on investment just from understanding the tax implications.

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Justin Trejo

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If you're struggling to get answers from the ACA marketplace or healthcare.gov about how your IRA contributions affect your subsidies, I highly recommend using https://claimyr.com to get through to a representative quickly. You can also see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I spent HOURS on hold trying to get clarification about my subsidy calculations, especially since my income fluctuates a lot. Using Claimyr, I got through to someone at the marketplace in under 15 minutes who confirmed that traditional IRA contributions do reduce your MAGI for ACA subsidy purposes and helped me run several scenarios for my specific situation.

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Alana Willis

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How does this actually work? I've literally never gotten through to healthcare.gov without at least an hour wait. Are they somehow gaming the phone system?

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Tyler Murphy

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Sounds like a scam honestly. How would some random service get you through faster than everyone else? The hold queue is the hold queue. I'm pretty sure they're just taking your money for nothing.

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Justin Trejo

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It works by using technology that continuously redials and navigates the phone tree until it gets through to a representative. When someone answers, it calls your phone and connects you. You skip the long hold time because the system is doing the waiting for you. I was skeptical too before trying it. It's not a scam - they're not claiming to have special access or relationships with government agencies. They're just automating the annoying wait process. I wouldn't have recommended it if it didn't work for me. But I understand the skepticism - I felt the same way initially.

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Tyler Murphy

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I have to eat my words from my skeptical comment. I was desperate after trying to reach the ACA marketplace for THREE DAYS with no luck, so I tried Claimyr against my better judgment. Got through in 17 minutes when I'd been hanging on hold for over an hour previously. The rep confirmed everything about traditional IRA contributions reducing MAGI for subsidy calculations. They also helped me understand how to estimate my income for next year since I'm self-employed with variable income. Turns out I can adjust my subsidy amount throughout the year if my income changes significantly, which I had no idea about.

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Sara Unger

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Just a quick tip - make sure you understand the difference between a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA for ACA purposes. Roth contributions do NOT reduce your MAGI because they're after-tax. Only traditional (pre-tax) IRA contributions will help lower your MAGI for subsidy calculations.

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Haley Stokes

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Thanks for pointing that out! I was definitely planning on traditional IRA, not Roth, specifically to help with the MAGI reduction. Do you know if HSA contributions also reduce MAGI for ACA purposes? I might be eligible for one of those too.

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Sara Unger

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Yes, HSA contributions absolutely reduce your MAGI for ACA purposes! They're actually even better than IRA contributions in some ways because they're "above the line" deductions that reduce your AGI (and therefore your MAGI). Plus, they're not subject to income phaseouts like IRA deductions can be when you have a workplace retirement plan. For 2023, you can contribute up to $3,850 for individual coverage or $7,750 for family coverage, with an additional $1,000 catch-up if you're 55 or older. Just make sure you have a qualifying high-deductible health plan to be eligible for the HSA.

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Has anyone used the ACA subsidy calculator on healthcare.gov? I'm trying to plug in different income scenarios but I'm not sure if it's actually accurate.

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Freya Ross

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The calculator on healthcare.gov is okay for rough estimates, but I found the one on Kaiser Family Foundation's website (kff.org) to be more user-friendly and it lets you easily adjust income levels to see how subsidies change.

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Great question! Yes, traditional IRA contributions will reduce your MAGI for ACA subsidy calculations, which is exactly what you want for maximizing your subsidies. Since you mentioned you'll be below the threshold for full IRA deductibility after your 401k contributions, this strategy makes perfect sense. Just keep in mind the 2025 IRA contribution limits will likely be around $7,000 (they usually increase slightly each year from the current $6,500). One thing to consider: if you're really trying to optimize your subsidy eligibility, you might want to run the numbers on whether it makes sense to contribute less to your 401k and more to a traditional IRA, depending on your specific income levels and the subsidy cliff effects in your area. Sometimes the subsidy savings can be worth more than the slight difference in contribution limits. The timing also matters - you can make IRA contributions up until the tax filing deadline (usually April 15th), so you have some flexibility to adjust based on your actual income for the year.

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Abigail Patel

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This is really helpful information! I'm in a similar boat trying to optimize my ACA subsidies for 2025. One question I have - when you make traditional IRA contributions to reduce your MAGI, do you need to report those on your healthcare.gov application right away, or can you wait until tax time? I'm wondering about the timing because I might not know my exact income until later in the year, and I want to make sure I don't accidentally get too much in advance premium tax credits that I'd have to pay back. Has anyone dealt with this situation where your IRA contributions changed your subsidy eligibility after you'd already enrolled?

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Mateo Sanchez

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Great question about timing! You don't need to report your IRA contributions on healthcare.gov right away - you estimate your income for the year when you enroll, and then reconcile everything when you file your taxes. The key is to be as accurate as possible with your income estimate on your application. If you're planning to make IRA contributions that will reduce your MAGI, you should factor those into your estimated income when you apply. If your actual income (including the effect of IRA contributions) ends up being different from what you estimated, you'll either get additional credits when you file your taxes or have to pay some back. The IRS gives you until the tax filing deadline to make IRA contributions for the previous year, so you have flexibility to adjust based on your actual income. I'd recommend updating your healthcare.gov application if your income estimate changes significantly during the year, rather than waiting until tax time. This helps avoid big surprises at tax filing!

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This is such a smart strategy for maximizing your ACA subsidies! I've been doing something similar for the past couple years. One additional tip I'd add - if you're really trying to dial in your MAGI to hit the sweet spot for subsidies, consider making your IRA contributions in smaller chunks throughout the year rather than all at once. This gives you more flexibility to adjust based on how your actual income is tracking. Also, don't forget that if you're married, both spouses can potentially make IRA contributions (up to the annual limit each), which could give you even more MAGI reduction if you're both eligible for the deduction. Just make sure you're staying within the income limits for deductibility that others mentioned. The fact that you're already maxing out your 401k shows you're thinking strategically about this. The combination of 401k + traditional IRA contributions can really help optimize both your retirement savings and your healthcare costs!

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Lena Kowalski

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This is really solid advice about making contributions throughout the year! I hadn't thought about the flexibility that gives you. Quick question though - when you say "sweet spot for subsidies," are there specific income thresholds where the subsidy amounts drop off dramatically? I keep hearing about "cliffs" but I'm not sure exactly what income levels to watch out for. Also, do you know if there's any advantage to timing when during the year you make the IRA contributions, or does it not matter as long as it's before the tax deadline?

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