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Do brokerage account withdrawals (post-tax, not retirement) count as income for ACA subsidies? Just capital gains?

I'm trying to figure out my healthcare situation for next year and I'm totally confused about how my brokerage account might affect my ACA subsidies. I have some money in a regular brokerage account that I've already paid taxes on when I put it in (not a 401k or IRA). If I withdraw some of that money next year, does the entire withdrawal count as income for ACA subsidy calculations? Or is it just the capital gains portion that counts? I'm planning to maybe withdraw around $15,000 to help with some home repairs, but I'm worried about how it might affect my healthcare costs if the whole amount counts as income. Most of that would just be my original investment coming back to me. Really appreciate any help on this! The ACA subsidy calculations are making my head spin.

Good question about ACA subsidies and brokerage withdrawals! This trips up a lot of people. For ACA subsidy calculations, only the capital gains portion of your brokerage withdrawal will count as income, not your entire withdrawal amount. The ACA uses Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) to determine subsidy eligibility, and MAGI includes capital gains but not the return of your original investment (cost basis). So if you withdraw $15,000 but only $2,000 of that is actual gains, only the $2,000 would count toward your MAGI for subsidy purposes. Your original investment (the other $13,000 in this example) is considered a return of capital that you've already paid taxes on. Just make sure you keep good records of your cost basis to properly calculate the gain portion!

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Does this apply to dividend income from the brokerage account too? I get quarterly dividends that automatically reinvest, but I'm not withdrawing anything. Do those count for ACA?

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Yes, dividend income absolutely counts toward your MAGI for ACA subsidy calculations, even if you automatically reinvest it. The IRS considers dividends as income in the year they're paid to you, regardless of whether you take the money out or reinvest it. For your automatically reinvesting dividends, you'll receive a 1099-DIV from your brokerage showing these amounts, and they need to be included in your income calculations for ACA purposes. This is different from the principal/cost basis discussion, as dividends are new income rather than a return of your original investment.

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Can this tool help if I have multiple types of accounts? I've got a regular brokerage account, a Roth IRA, and a traditional IRA. I'm confused about how withdrawals from each might affect my subsidies differently.

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How does this service actually work? Do they just call for you or what? I've been trying to get through to the marketplace for weeks.

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Quick additional tip from my experience: keep detailed records of your cost basis for each investment. I got audited two years ago specifically about my ACA subsidies because I couldn't properly document which portion of my brokerage withdrawals were gains vs. principal. My broker's year-end statement wasn't detailed enough for the IRS. I ended up having to pay back some of my subsidy because I couldn't prove the exact breakdown. Now I track everything in a spreadsheet and download monthly statements.

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How complicated was the audit? I'm always worried about triggering something like that with my brokerage account and healthcare subsidies.

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It wasn't a full-blown audit with in-person meetings, more of a mail correspondence situation. They specifically questioned the income I reported for ACA subsidy purposes compared to what my brokerage reported on 1099 forms. The tricky part was that my 1099-B showed the total proceeds from sales, but I needed to prove which portion was actually gains versus return of principal. Since I didn't have perfect records of my cost basis for some older investments, I couldn't fully substantiate my numbers. They ultimately required me to count more of the withdrawals as income than I had originally reported, which pushed me into a different subsidy bracket.

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I made this exact mistake last year! I withdrew $28,000 from my brokerage account and thought the whole amount would count for ACA. I almost didn't apply for a subsidy because of it. My tax guy explained that only the $4,300 in capital gains counted toward my MAGI, not the full withdrawal. Ended up saving over $7,000 in premiums because I qualified for a much better subsidy than I thought!

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Did you have to do anything special on your tax forms to make sure the marketplace understood which portion was gains vs principal return? I'm worried they'll just see the full 1099-B amount.

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This is such a relief to read! I've been stressing about this exact scenario for months. I have about $20,000 in a taxable brokerage account that I might need to tap into next year for some unexpected expenses, and I was convinced it would completely mess up my ACA subsidies. From what everyone is saying, it sounds like only the actual gains portion would count toward my MAGI, not the full withdrawal amount. That makes so much more sense than penalizing people for accessing money they already paid taxes on when they invested it. Does anyone know if there's a way to estimate what portion of my account balance would be considered gains vs. principal? I've been adding money to this account sporadically over the past 5 years, so I'm not sure how to calculate my cost basis accurately.

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Your brokerage should provide you with cost basis information! Most major brokers track this automatically now, especially for accounts opened in recent years. Check your online account or call them directly - they can usually generate a report showing your cost basis for each holding. If you've been making regular contributions over 5 years, your broker should have records of each purchase and the price you paid. This is crucial for calculating the actual gains portion that would count toward your MAGI. Don't stress too much about doing the math yourself - your year-end tax documents (1099-B) should show both the proceeds and cost basis when you do sell. The key thing is that you're thinking about this ahead of time! That puts you way ahead of where I was when I made withdrawals without considering the ACA implications.

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This is exactly the kind of confusion that keeps people from making smart financial decisions! I went through the same panic when I first learned about MAGI calculations for ACA subsidies. One thing that really helped me was understanding that the ACA treats your brokerage account withdrawals the same way the IRS does for regular tax purposes. Since you already paid taxes on the money you originally invested (your cost basis), the government isn't going to tax you again on that same money - whether for income taxes or ACA subsidy calculations. The $15,000 withdrawal you're considering will only impact your subsidies based on whatever gains you've realized, not the full amount. So if you invested $12,000 over time and it grew to $15,000, only that $3,000 gain would count toward your MAGI. Just make sure you understand which investments you're selling if you have multiple purchases at different prices. Some brokers default to "first in, first out" while others let you choose specific lots, which can affect your tax implications. Worth checking with your broker about their default method before you make the withdrawal!

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This is really helpful advice about the lot selection! I never thought about how different selling methods could affect the tax implications. Since I'm new to all this, could you explain a bit more about "first in, first out" versus choosing specific lots? If I have the choice, is there usually a better strategy for minimizing the gains portion that would count toward MAGI? I'm trying to be as strategic as possible since I'm right on the edge of a subsidy cliff and even a small difference in reported income could cost me thousands in premium increases. Also, do most brokers make it easy to see this information before you actually sell, or do you have to dig around to find the cost basis details?

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