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Sebastián Stevens

Should capital gains count as income? Tax implications for investments

Hey everyone, I'm really confused about how capital gains are handled for tax purposes. I made some decent money last year from selling some stocks I've had for a few years, and now I'm trying to figure out if this counts as regular income or something else entirely. This matters because I'm trying to qualify for certain tax credits, and if my "income" is too high, I won't be eligible. I know there's long-term and short-term capital gains, but I'm not sure how either affects my overall income calculation or AGI. If anyone could explain how capital gains factor into income calculations for tax purposes, especially regarding qualification for credits and deductions, I'd really appreciate it!

Capital gains are definitely considered income, but they're treated differently than your regular wages or salary. Here's what you need to know: Long-term capital gains (assets held more than a year) are taxed at preferential rates (0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income bracket) rather than your normal income tax rate. Short-term gains (assets held less than a year) are taxed as ordinary income at your regular tax rate. For tax credits and deductions, what matters most is your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) or Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI), and capital gains ARE included in these calculations. So yes, those investment profits can potentially push you over the income threshold for certain credits. However, some tax benefits use different income calculations, so it really depends on which specific credits you're trying to qualify for. If you share which tax credits you're concerned about, I can give you more specific guidance.

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Thanks for the explanation! So if I understand correctly, capital gains will count toward my AGI even if they're taxed at a different rate? I'm mainly worried about the Child Tax Credit since I have two kids. Will my stock sale push me over the limit even though it was a one-time thing?

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Yes, capital gains are included in your AGI even though they're taxed differently. For the Child Tax Credit specifically, eligibility is based on your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI), and capital gains are part of this calculation. The Child Tax Credit begins to phase out at $200,000 for single filers and $400,000 for married filing jointly. If your one-time stock sale pushes you over these thresholds, you might see a reduction in the credit amount you're eligible for. However, it's a gradual phase-out, so you might still get a partial credit depending on how far over the threshold you are.

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Just to add another perspective - capital gains can also affect things like Medicare premiums if you're older (through IRMAA) and social security taxation. I learned this the hard way when I sold some property and suddenly had my Medicare costs jump the following year because of the "income" spike. Sometimes it makes sense to spread out large capital gains over multiple tax years if possible.

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How do you spread capital gains over multiple years? Once you sell an investment, don't you have to recognize all the gain in that tax year? Or are there special rules I don't know about?

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You can use an installment sale for certain assets like real estate or a business. Instead of receiving the full payment in one year, you receive payments over multiple years, and you only recognize the portion of the gain received each year. This doesn't work for publicly traded securities like stocks and mutual funds though - those gains must be recognized entirely in the year of sale. But for larger assets like property, an installment sale can be a great strategy to manage your tax brackets and avoid those one-year spikes that affect Medicare premiums and other income-based programs.

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Has anyone used the capital gains harvesting strategy? Where you sell investments that have gains up to the 0% capital gains bracket limit? I heard you can essentially realize gains tax-free if your income is low enough.

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Thanks for confirming the strategy! Those thresholds are really helpful to know. Do you have to be careful about any other income limits that might be affected when you do this? I'm worried about accidentally losing other tax benefits.

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This is such valuable advice! I'm new to investing and had no idea about all these interconnected effects. Quick question - when you say you "model out your entire tax situation," are you using specific software for this, or is there a particular approach you recommend? I want to make sure I'm considering all the factors before making any moves with my investments. The wash sale clarification is also really helpful since I was worried about that rule applying here too.

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