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Does long term capital gains affect your tax bracket for ordinary income? Need to understand how it impacts W-2 wages

I've been tracking my finances this year and have a question about how my investment sales will impact my tax situation. I received about $13k in wages from my part-time job, but I also sold some investments that resulted in approximately $125k in long-term capital gains (stocks I've held for several years). When I go to figure out my tax rate for the $13k in wages, I'm confused about whether I use just the $13k amount or if I need to use the total $138k ($13k wages + $125k capital gains) to determine which tax bracket I fall into for the ordinary income. I know long-term capital gains are taxed differently than regular income, but I'm not sure if they're completely separate calculations or if one affects the other. For the sake of this question, I'm ignoring deductions like the standard deduction - just trying to understand the basic mechanics of how these two types of income interact for tax purposes. Can someone help clarify how this works? Thanks!

Mason Stone

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The good news is that long-term capital gains don't push your ordinary income into higher tax brackets. They're calculated separately! For your situation, your ordinary income ($13k) would be taxed according to the ordinary income tax brackets, while your long-term capital gains ($125k) would be taxed according to the capital gains tax rates. They run on separate "tracks," so to speak. The process works like this: First, your ordinary income is taxed according to the regular income tax brackets. Then, your long-term capital gains are taxed according to the capital gains rates, which are currently 0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your total taxable income (which includes both ordinary income and capital gains). So while your total income ($138k) determines which capital gains rate applies to your investment profits, your $13k in wages is still taxed based on where it falls in the ordinary income brackets.

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Wait, I'm confused. So the capital gains don't push your regular income into higher brackets, but the regular income DOES affect what capital gains rate you pay? Could you explain that part again?

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Mason Stone

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Your ordinary income doesn't get pushed into higher brackets by capital gains, but yes, your total taxable income (ordinary plus capital gains) determines which capital gains rate applies. For example, in 2025, if you're single and your total taxable income is under about $47,025, you'd pay 0% on your long-term capital gains. Between $47,025 and $518,900, you'd pay 15%. Above that, you'd pay 20%. So your $13k of wages plus $125k of capital gains would likely put you in the 15% capital gains bracket, but your wages would still be taxed at their normal rates.

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Another important thing to understand about long-term capital gains and ordinary income is the "stacking" order. Your ordinary income fills up the tax brackets first, then your long-term capital gains sit on top. For example, if you're single in 2025 with $13k ordinary income and $125k LTCG: - Your $13k ordinary income fills up part of the 10% bracket - Your LTCG then starts at whatever threshold your ordinary income reached - This means your capital gains would likely all be taxed at 15% This stacking order is why having a lot of ordinary income can push your capital gains into the 20% bracket, but capital gains never push ordinary income into higher brackets.

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Logan Chiang

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Thanks for explaining the stacking order! Does this mean there's a strategy where you could potentially time when you sell investments to stay in certain capital gains tax brackets? Like if I need to sell $50k in stocks, would it be better to split it across two tax years?

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Yes, tax-aware investing is definitely a strategy many people use! If you're near a capital gains bracket threshold, splitting sales across tax years can potentially save you money. For example, if splitting your $50k sale across two years would keep your capital gains in the 0% bracket instead of pushing into the 15% bracket, you could save significantly. This is especially effective for people with lower ordinary income who can take advantage of the 0% capital gains rate. Just make sure you're also considering any changes in the market value of your investments when timing your sales.

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Isla Fischer

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Wait I'm still confused. If I have $50k in regular income and $200k in long term capital gains, does that mean my regular income gets taxed at the rates for someone making $250k? Or does it get taxed at the rates for someone making $50k?

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Mason Stone

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Your $50k regular income would be taxed at the rates for someone making $50k, not $250k. The capital gains don't push your regular income into higher brackets. However, your $200k in capital gains would be taxed based on your total income of $250k, which would likely put them in the 15% long-term capital gains tax rate category. The key thing to remember is that ordinary income and capital gains have separate tax rate schedules, but your total income determines which capital gains rate applies.

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QuantumQuest

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I first started investing. The key insight that helped me was thinking of it like two separate "buckets" - your ordinary income bucket and your capital gains bucket. Your $13k in wages gets taxed exactly like it would if that was your only income - it doesn't matter that you have $125k in capital gains sitting alongside it. The capital gains are in their own separate calculation. But here's the part that trips people up: while your ordinary income doesn't get pushed into higher brackets by capital gains, your TOTAL income ($138k) does determine what rate you pay on those capital gains. So you'd likely pay 15% on your long-term gains, but your $13k in wages would still be taxed at the regular income rates for someone making $13k. Think of it as your ordinary income "filling up" the tax brackets first, then your capital gains get stacked on top using their own separate rate table. The IRS basically runs two parallel calculations and adds them together.

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This "two buckets" analogy is really helpful! I've been struggling to understand this concept for months. So just to make sure I have this right - if I have $30k in regular income and $80k in long-term capital gains, my $30k gets taxed like someone who only makes $30k, but my capital gains rate is determined by the total $110k? That would put me in the 15% capital gains bracket even though my regular income is still in lower tax brackets?

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