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Liam Murphy

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Make sure you look closely at the "examination report" from your audit (usually Form 4549) and compare it with the CP22. Sometimes the examination report shows the additional tax only, while the CP22 includes that PLUS penalties and interest. In my experience, it's usually not that they doubled the actual tax amount, but that they've added failure-to-pay penalties (usually 0.5% per month), accuracy-related penalties (20% of the unpaid tax), and interest (which compounds daily). These additions can significantly increase the total amount due.

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Thanks for this advice! I just pulled out my Form 4549 and compared it to the CP22. You're right that there are penalties listed on the CP22 that weren't on the examination report, but they only account for about $1,200 of the difference. There's still $1,550 unaccounted for, which seems to be an additional tax assessment that wasn't in our agreement.

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Liam Murphy

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That's concerning. When you and the auditor reached an agreement, you should have signed a form acknowledging the additional tax assessment. Check if you have a copy of this agreement - it's your strongest evidence. With that $1,550 unexplained difference, you should definitely contact the IRS promptly. When you call, ask specifically for the "examination department" and reference your audit case number. They should be able to pull the records and see what was actually agreed upon. Be prepared to fax or mail copies of your documentation showing the original agreed amount.

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Amara Okafor

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Make sure you're also checking the tax year on both documents! I once had a similar panic moment until I realized the CP22 was actually addressing BOTH my 2023 and 2024 tax years, while my audit agreement only covered 2024. Easy to miss this detail when you're stressed about the numbers.

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This is excellent advice. The IRS often combines multiple issues in a single notice, especially if they're doing a multi-year review. I've seen CP22s that reference adjustments from completely different issues all bundled together.

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Have you checked if your employer offers a tax withholding calculator on your employee portal? Mine does through Workday and you can actually set a "goal" for your refund amount. I have mine set to $1000 refund because I like the forced savings. Some people set it to $0 on purpose to maximize paychecks.

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Yara Assad

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I never thought to check that! We do use Workday actually. Is this something in the benefits section or somewhere else? I'll have to poke around tomorrow. If I could set preferences that would be awesome.

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Check under the Payroll section in Workday. Look for something called "Tax Withholding" or "W-4 Elections." Most versions have a withholding calculator where you can play with different scenarios. Some even have a slider where you can choose between maximizing paychecks (0 refund) or getting a specific refund amount. It's usually in the same place where you would update your W-4 information. The calculator is pretty helpful because it shows how each change affects both your paycheck and your expected refund. If you don't see it, your HR department can tell you if this feature is enabled for your company.

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this yet, but a $0 refund is actually IDEAL! When you get a refund, it means you gave the government an interest-free loan all year. My accountant always tries to get me as close to $0 as possible. If your withholding is exactly matching your tax liability, that's perfect tax planning. You're maximizing your monthly cash flow without owing anything at tax time.

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This is actually a myth that needs to die. For most normal people, the "interest" you'd earn on the extra $20-40 per paycheck is minimal compared to the psychological benefit of getting a larger refund. Most people don't invest that small difference anyway.

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You're missing the bigger financial picture. Even small amounts add up significantly over time, especially with compound interest. An extra $40 per paycheck is $1,040 annually that could be in your investment accounts growing instead of sitting with the IRS. But more importantly, having access to your full earnings gives you financial flexibility throughout the year. That money could go toward paying down high-interest debt, building an emergency fund, or investing in retirement accounts with tax advantages. It's about having control of your own money rather than voluntarily restricting access to it. For people struggling with cash flow issues, every dollar in their regular paycheck matters.

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Here's what my CPA taught me: don't overthink this. Use the assessment closest to when you started renting it out, and be consistent going forward. Unless your land values changed dramatically (like double or half the value), the difference in depreciation will be minimal over time. Just document which assessment you used and why, and keep that documentation with your tax records. The real flag for IRS is inconsistency or changing methods without good reason.

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But what if there is a huge difference? My assessment from January valued the land at 120k, but the July one (closer to when I started renting) suddenly jumped to 180k due to some county-wide reassessment. That's a big difference in depreciable basis!

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In that case, where there's a substantial difference that materially affects your tax liability, you should definitely go with the most accurate assessment closest to your placed-in-service date. The July assessment would be appropriate since it reflects the most current valuation when you began renting. For significant changes like you described, it's also worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in real estate to ensure you're taking the right approach. You might even want to get a private appraisal that specifically breaks out the land value as of your placed-in-service date to have solid documentation if the IRS ever questions your depreciation calculations.

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Demi Lagos

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Something no one's mentioned yet - check if your closing documents from when you purchased the property already have a land value allocation! When I bought my rental, the settlement statement had a specific allocation between land and improvements that my title company determined based on the county assessor's data. My accountant said that's perfectly acceptable documentation for setting up depreciation.

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Mason Lopez

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This is good advice! My HUD-1 settlement statement had this breakdown too. Made it super easy come tax time. Always check your closing docs first before digging through property tax records.

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Andre Dupont

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Something important no one's mentioned yet - if you're using online sportsbooks, they'll likely send you a Form W-2G if you hit certain thresholds (usually single wins of $600+ where the odds were at least 300-to-1). Make sure whatever you report matches what's on your W-2G forms because the IRS gets copies of those directly. If the amounts don't match up, that's a red flag that could trigger an audit. Also, some states have different rules for gambling deductions than the federal government. For example, some states don't allow gambling loss deductions at all, even if you itemize on your federal return.

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Do you know what happens if you use offshore betting sites that don't issue W-2Gs? Asking for a friend...

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Andre Dupont

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The legal requirement to report gambling income applies regardless of whether you receive a W-2G or not, and regardless of where the gambling took place (including offshore sites). Your "friend" still has a legal obligation to report all gambling income. The IRS has been increasingly focusing on unreported gambling income, especially with the expansion of legal sports betting. While offshore sites might not issue tax forms, there's still a paper trail through bank/credit card transactions or cryptocurrency transfers that could be discovered in an audit.

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Jamal Wilson

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I'm still confused about the practical side of tracking all this. I place hundreds of bets throughout the year on different apps. Am I really expected to log every single one manually? That seems insane.

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Mei Lin

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Most of the major betting apps/sites have an option to download your annual betting history as a CSV or PDF. Usually under Account → History → Tax Documents or something similar. I download mine quarterly so it's easier to manage. Then I just use a spreadsheet to separate wins and losses.

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Jamal Wilson

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That's super helpful, thanks! I didn't realize you could download everything like that. Definitely going to check that option on my apps.

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Oliver Weber

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Just a heads up - you should also check if you received a CP12 notice. That's the standard IRS notice when they make math corrections to your return. Sometimes these can get lost in the mail or look like junk mail (they come in those windowed envelopes that look like bills). You can also create an account on the IRS website to view all notices they've sent you electronically. Go to irs.gov/account and set up an online account. It takes a bit of verification, but once you're in, you can see all correspondence, payment history, and even get transcripts of your tax records which will show exactly what was changed.

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Ava Martinez

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I actually just checked my mail more carefully and found a letter from the IRS that I thought was junk! It's a CP12 like you mentioned. Looks like they disallowed part of my Schedule C deductions because they said I didn't provide enough documentation. Is there a way to appeal this or provide the documentation now?

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Oliver Weber

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Yes, you absolutely can appeal this decision! The CP12 notice should include instructions for how to respond if you disagree with their adjustments. Typically, you have 60 days from the date of the notice to submit your appeal. To appeal, you'll need to write a letter explaining why you disagree with their adjustment and include copies (never originals) of any supporting documentation for the deductions they disallowed. This might include receipts, invoices, bank statements, credit card statements, or other records that prove these were legitimate business expenses. Make sure to reference your tax ID number and the CP12 notice number in your response.

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Something similar happened to me and it turned out to be an identity verification issue. The IRS sometimes flags returns for identity verification if anything looks unusual compared to your previous filing patterns. In my case, I had moved to a different state and had a new job, which triggered their system. They reduced my refund temporarily until I verified my identity. Had to call the special identity verification number (different from regular IRS customer service) and answer a bunch of questions.

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NebulaNinja

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This happened to my sister too! They held her whole refund for like 2 months. The annoying part was they didn't clearly tell her it was for identity verification - she only found out when she finally got through to someone on the phone.

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