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Aisha Khan

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I work in payroll and see this mistake sometimes. Codes A and B in Box 12 are typically used for restaurant workers or other tipped employees. Someone probably selected the wrong industry code or employee classification for you in the payroll system, which automatically generated these boxes. It's definitely an error that should be fixed. Quick tip while you're waiting for a corrected W-2: keep track of all your pay stubs for the year and compare the totals to what's on your W-2. If everything else matches up (Box 1 wages, Box 2 federal withholding, etc.), then you might be okay to file with the current W-2 and just ignore those particular codes, but definitely check with a tax professional first.

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Diego Vargas

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Thanks for the insider perspective! Would this error affect how much tax I actually owe? My pay stubs do match everything else on the W-2.

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Aisha Khan

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If everything else on your W-2 matches your pay stubs, then the tax you owe should be calculated correctly based on your actual wages and withholding. The presence of these codes by themselves doesn't change your tax liability if there aren't any associated amounts that were factored into your income incorrectly. That said, I'd still recommend getting a corrected W-2 for your records and to prevent any potential questions from the IRS. Most tax software might flag these entries and ask you about tip income you don't actually have, which could lead to reporting errors if you're not careful.

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Ethan Taylor

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Has anyone actually had the IRS come back and question these kinds of errors? I had something similar on my W-2 last year (wrong code in box 12) and just filed anyway because I was in a hurry to get my refund. Nothing bad happened...

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Yuki Ito

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You got lucky. My cousin ignored some codes on his W-2 that didn't make sense, and he got a letter from the IRS 6 months later questioning his return. Ended up having to provide a bunch of documentation and it was a big headache. Better to fix it upfront than deal with that stress later.

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QuantumQuest

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For your W-4, one thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're a student working part-time, you might qualify for EXEMPT status if you didn't owe any federal tax last year AND don't expect to owe any this year. Look at your income: $14.50 Ɨ 25 hours Ɨ 52 weeks = about $18,850 per year. The standard deduction for 2025 for a single person is projected to be around $13,800. So you'd only be taxed on about $5,050. If you're claimed as a dependent though, there are limitations. But depending on your situation, you might be able to write "EXEMPT" on the form instead of having federal income tax withheld at all. Worth considering if you're only working part-time and don't expect to make more than the standard deduction plus any other deductions you might have.

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That's interesting! So if I write "EXEMPT" I won't have any federal taxes taken out of my paychecks at all? Where exactly on the W-4 would I put that? I didn't see an exempt box anywhere on the new form.

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QuantumQuest

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On the redesigned W-4 form, you would write "Exempt" on line 4(c) in the space where it asks for any additional amount you want withheld. Instead of putting a dollar amount, you just write the word "Exempt" there. But be careful! You can only legally claim exemption if you had NO federal income tax liability last year AND you expect to have NO federal income tax liability this year. If you made less than about $12,950 last year and expect to make less than the standard deduction amount this year, you might qualify. Since you're estimating about $18,850 in income, you would likely have some tax liability, so exemption probably isn't the right choice for you unless you have other deductions that would lower your taxable income further.

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Just a heads up that the W-4 form changed significantly in 2020, so if anyone's giving you advice based on the old form (which had allowances), it's outdated. The new form doesn't use allowances anymore. My HR department actually recommends using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator at www.irs.gov/W4App if you want to get your withholding as accurate as possible. It takes about 10-15 minutes to complete but gives you specific instructions for each line of the W-4 based on your personal situation.

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Yara Haddad

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This is so important! My dad tried to help me with my W-4 and kept talking about claiming "0" or "1" allowance which isn't even on the form anymore. The new version is totally different. I ended up just using the IRS estimator tool which was actually pretty easy to use.

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Ally Tailer

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Just FYI - if you're a frequent gambler, you should keep a gambling diary or log for ALL your gambling activities (wins AND losses). Document dates, locations, type of gambling, amounts, witnesses if possible. The IRS allows you to deduct losses up to the amount of your winnings, but only if you itemize deductions AND have proof of those losses. Without documentation, you can't claim the losses but still have to report all the winnings.

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Simon White

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Thanks for this tip! Do casino loyalty cards help with tracking for tax purposes? I always use mine when I gamble.

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Ally Tailer

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Casino loyalty cards can definitely help as supporting evidence, especially at casinos that provide win/loss statements at year-end based on your card usage. However, these statements aren't considered complete documentation by themselves since they only track play when your card is inserted. For complete documentation, you should still maintain your own gambling diary with dates, locations, and specific session results. The IRS wants to see contemporary records created at or near the time of gambling. Your personal log combined with loyalty card statements provides much stronger documentation if you're ever audited.

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One thing nobody mentioned - even if you get a W-2G with taxes already withheld, the amount withheld is usually only 24% (federal backup withholding rate). If you're in a higher tax bracket, you might still owe more when you file! Had this happen to me last year with a $15k slot win. Was shocked when I still owed another $1,700 at tax time even though they'd already withheld like $3,600!

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Yep, happened to me too! Plus some states require state income tax that isn't withheld on the W-2G, so you might get hit with that too.

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Have you considered TurboTax instead? I know nobody wants to switch software mid-return, but I successfully filed Form 8919 through them last year. Their interface walks you through the misclassification situation pretty clearly. They have specific questions that help determine if you qualify. Might be worth the switch if you're hitting roadblocks with FreeTax USA.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm pretty deep into my return on FreeTax USA already. Did TurboTax also explain how to handle the SS-8 form? And did you end up getting a determination from the IRS about your worker status?

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TurboTax handled the 8919 form but like others mentioned, the SS-8 is filed separately regardless of which software you use. They do provide guidance about it though. I did eventually get a determination from the IRS, but it took almost 8 months. The good news is they ruled in my favor and determined I was an employee. My former company had to pay the employer portion of the taxes. Just be prepared for a long wait - the SS-8 process isn't quick, but filing Form 8919 with reason code G protects you in the meantime.

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Ethan Brown

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One thing nobody's mentioned - be prepared for potential fallout with your employer. When you file these forms, the IRS will eventually contact them as part of the determination process. Some employers don't take kindly to being reported for misclassification. Happened to me last year and it got awkward fast.

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This is really important advice. My friend filed SS-8 and not only did it create tension, but the company actually tried to retroactively create documentation to make it look like he was properly classified as a contractor. Make sure you have copies of all relevant emails, texts, schedules, etc. BEFORE you file!

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I hadn't even thought about that aspect. Thankfully I don't work for them anymore, but I still need references from them. Do you think I should give them a heads up before filing, or would that just create problems sooner?

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Cass Green

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Paper filing with the Identity Theft Affidavit (Form 14039) is definitely the way to go. Also, set up an Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN) with the IRS for next year's filing. This is a 6-digit number that only you know, and it will be required for all future electronic filings with your SSN. This prevents anyone else from using your SSN to file, even if they have all your other information. You can get an IP PIN by creating an account on IRS.gov. This extra layer of security has been available to all taxpayers since 2021 and is seriously worth the small effort to set up.

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Is it difficult to set up an IP PIN? And what happens if you forget your IP PIN next year when you try to file?

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Cass Green

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Setting up an IP PIN is actually quite simple. You'll need to create an account on IRS.gov if you don't already have one, which requires some basic verification of your identity. Once your account is set up, you can request an IP PIN through your online account. If you forget your IP PIN when trying to file next year, you have a couple of options. You can retrieve it through your online IRS account if you still have access. If not, you'll need to call the IRS recovery line at a specific number for IP PIN issues, verify your identity, and they can help you recover or reset it. Worst case scenario, you'd need to paper file if you can't recover your IP PIN, but that's rarely necessary.

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What happened to you happened to my sister last year! Do NOT just paper file and forget about it. Take it from someone who's been through this - it could indeed be identity theft. Here's what my sister did: 1. Filed paper return with Form 14039 (Identity Theft Affidavit) 2. Checked her credit reports immediately (all three bureaus) 3. Froze her credit with all three credit bureaus 4. Filed a police report just to have documentation 5. Set up an IP PIN with the IRS for future filings Turns out someone had actually stolen her identity and not only filed a tax return but also tried opening credit cards. The freeze stopped them. Better to be paranoid than sorry!

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Is an IP PIN really worth setting up if you don't have any evidence of identity theft? I heard it just complicates things when you file next year.

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