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Has anyone had luck filing through something besides TurboTax? This is my 3rd year with refund delays using them and im starting to wonder if its part of the problem. Maybe direct filing with the IRS is better?
I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA last year and got my refund in 2 weeks flat. TT kept having me input info that seemed to trigger reviews. Not saying it's their fault, but I definitely had a smoother experience elsewhere.
That's interesting! I hadn't considered that the tax software itself might be part of the problem. I just went with TurboTax because that's what everyone seems to use, but maybe I'll try something different next year. I've heard the IRS has a free file option now too, so maybe that would be faster since it goes straight to them? I'm definitely open to trying anything that might speed things up for next year.
I'm going through the exact same thing! Filed in early March and still nothing. One thing that really helped me was calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service (TAS) at 1-877-777-4778. They're a separate division within the IRS that helps when you've been waiting an unreasonably long time for your refund. You qualify for their help if it's been more than 21 days since you e-filed and you haven't received your refund or any communication about why it's delayed. They can actually look into your specific case and sometimes get things moving faster than the regular IRS customer service. Also, if you're experiencing financial hardship because of the delay (like you mentioned with bills), make sure to tell them that when you call. They prioritize cases where people are facing real consequences from the delay. Worth a shot before trying some of the paid services others mentioned!
Has anyone tried requesting penalty abatement through the IRS website or by mail instead of calling? I've been trying to get through on the phone for days with no luck.
I sent a penalty abatement request by mail last year using IRS Form 843. It took about 8 weeks to process, but they did approve it. Make sure you clearly mark "Reasonable Cause" on the form and include a detailed explanation letter plus any supporting documentation.
Based on your situation, I'd strongly recommend trying for First Time Penalty Abatement first before going the reasonable cause route. Since you mentioned this is your first time ever being late and you've always been diligent about paying on time, you likely qualify automatically. The beauty of First Time Penalty Abatement is that you don't need to prove anything about the family emergency or bank account mix-up - they just check their records to confirm you have a clean compliance history for the past 3 years. If you qualify, they can remove the penalty right on the spot during your call. If for some reason you don't qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement, then you can fall back to the reasonable cause argument with all the details about your family situation and the honest mistake. But definitely start with the easier option first - just call and specifically ask "Do I qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement?" Given that this could save you $750, it's absolutely worth the phone call. And don't let the penalty stress you out too much - the IRS does have these provisions specifically for situations like yours where good taxpayers make honest mistakes.
Don't feel ashamed. I just filed my 2022 taxes last month lol. The tax prep person at Jackson Hewitt didn't even bat an eye when I told them. Just bring all your documents and they'll sort it out!
Did you have to pay a lot in penalties? I'm in a similar situation and worried about how much extra I'll owe.
Hey, I totally get the anxiety you're feeling - I was in almost the exact same situation a couple years ago and thought my world was ending! The good news is you're absolutely NOT beyond help. You can file your 2023 taxes anytime, even now in December. Yes, you'll face penalties for filing late, but the key thing is to stop the bleeding by filing ASAP. The failure-to-file penalty stops accruing once you actually file your return. If you end up owing money, you can always set up a payment plan with the IRS. H&R Block won't judge you at all - they deal with late filers constantly, especially around this time of year when people are trying to clean up their tax situations before the new year. They've literally seen it all. One thing that might help ease your mind: if it turns out you're actually owed a refund, there are no penalties for filing late! You'd just be leaving money on the table if you don't file within 3 years of the due date. Take a deep breath and just get it done. You'll feel SO much better once those taxes are filed. The anticipation and anxiety are honestly worse than dealing with the actual situation. You've got this! šŖ
This is such a reassuring comment! I'm actually in a similar boat right now and have been putting off filing my 2023 taxes because I'm terrified of the penalties. It's good to know that H&R Block won't make me feel worse about the situation - I've been avoiding going anywhere because I'm so embarrassed about waiting this long. The part about the failure-to-file penalty stopping once you actually file is really helpful to know. I keep thinking that waiting longer will somehow make it better, but clearly the opposite is true. Thanks for the encouragement - I think I'm finally ready to bite the bullet and get this done!
Just wanted to add a quick tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation - if your company uses ADP like you mentioned, there's often a "pending" status that shows up even when your W4 change goes through successfully. The system sometimes takes 24-48 hours to update the display, but the actual change might already be processed on the backend. You can check with your next paycheck to see if the withholding changed, or call your HR department to confirm the status. I was worried my change didn't go through for a whole week until I realized it was just a display lag in the system. Also, since you mentioned you're counting on maximizing your summer earnings - once you get the exempt status sorted, you might want to track your total earnings throughout the summer to make sure you stay under the standard deduction threshold. That way you can avoid any surprises at tax time next year!
That's really helpful about the ADP system delay! I've been using ADP at other jobs and always wondered why there was that weird lag between submitting changes and seeing them reflected. Good to know it's normal and doesn't mean the change didn't go through. Your point about tracking earnings is smart too - I hadn't thought about monitoring that throughout the summer. Is there an easy way to keep track besides just adding up my paystubs? Maybe a simple spreadsheet or app that could help make sure I don't accidentally go over the threshold?
I went through this exact situation last year with my summer internship! The good news is that yes, you can absolutely submit a new W4 to correct this - it's not permanent and employers deal with these changes regularly. Here's what worked for me: I went directly to HR with a printed, corrected W4 form rather than relying solely on the online system. I explained that I had made an error on my initial form and needed to claim exempt status. They processed it within a few days and my next paycheck had zero federal withholding. Unfortunately, you won't get the money already withheld back directly - that will come as part of your tax refund when you file next year. But the bright side is if you truly qualify for exempt status (which it sounds like you do based on your summer earnings expectations), you'll get all of that federal withholding back as a refund. One important thing to remember: if you file as exempt, you'll need to submit a new W4 by February 15th next year to maintain that status, otherwise it automatically reverts to maximum withholding. Also, don't forget that Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65%) will still be withheld regardless of your exempt status - that's totally normal. Go talk to HR in person with a corrected form - they should be able to help you get this sorted quickly!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I was getting so stressed about whether I'd be stuck with these high withholdings all summer. Going to HR in person with a printed form sounds like the best approach - I think I was overthinking the online system when the old-fashioned way might be more reliable. Really appreciate the heads up about the February 15th deadline too. I would have definitely forgotten about that and gotten hit with surprise withholdings next year. Going to set a calendar reminder right now so I don't make that mistake! Quick question - when you said you explained you made an "error" on the initial form, did HR ask for any kind of documentation or proof that you qualify for exempt status? I'm worried they might want to see my previous tax return or something to verify.
Daniel Washington
Has anyone tried calling the IRS e-file help desk directly? The number is 866-255-0654. They have specific agents who deal with e-file rejections and can often tell you exactly what AGI is in their system. I had to use this last year when my return kept getting rejected.
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Aurora Lacasse
ā¢I tried that number yesterday and after waiting 45 minutes the call disconnected. Tried again today and got a message saying they're not accepting calls due to high volume. Seems like every IRS number is impossible to get through right now.
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Yara Khoury
I went through this exact same frustration last year! After trying everything - the correct AGI, entering "0", calling multiple IRS numbers - what finally worked for me was requesting a "Verification of Non-filing Letter" from the IRS website. Even though I HAD filed, the letter showed what AGI the IRS had on record for me, and it was different from what was on my copy of the return by about $150. Apparently when they processed my paper return, they made some adjustment that I was never notified about. Once I used the AGI from that verification letter, my e-file went through immediately. You can request it online through your IRS account at irs.gov - it's free and usually available within 24 hours. Just look for "Get Transcript" and select "Verification of Non-filing Letter" even though you did file. It sounds backwards but it shows the AGI they have on record. This might be faster than trying to get through to an agent on the phone, especially during tax season when their lines are slammed.
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Marcus Williams
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I just checked my IRS online account and I can see the "Get Transcript" option. Quick question though - when you say "Verification of Non-filing Letter," do you mean that's literally what it's called in the dropdown menu? I see options like "Return Transcript" and "Account Transcript" but I want to make sure I'm requesting the right document that will show the AGI they have on file. Also, did you have to wait the full 24 hours or was it available sooner? I'm hoping to resolve this and get my return filed this week if possible.
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