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Nia Jackson

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I'm a tax preparer and see these situations frequently. The good news is you're not looking at taxable income here. When property damage compensation doesn't exceed your original cost basis (what you paid for the car), it's not taxable - you're just being made whole, not profiting. The W-9 is standard procedure for any business payment over $600, regardless of whether it's taxable. Think of it like their insurance policy - they collect tax info on everyone they pay just in case. They may or may not issue a 1099, but even if they do, it doesn't change the tax treatment. Here's my advice: Keep your purchase documentation, settlement paperwork, and any photos of the damage. If you do get a 1099, most tax software has a section for "other income" where you can enter the amount and then offset it with "casualty loss reimbursement - not taxable." The net effect is zero additional tax. Don't overthink this - the IRS understands that replacing destroyed property isn't income. You bought a car for $28K, someone destroyed it, and they're giving you $18.5K to replace it. You're actually out money, not gaining anything taxable.

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Miguel Silva

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This is exactly what I needed to hear from a professional! I've been spiraling about this whole situation thinking I might owe thousands in taxes. Your explanation makes perfect sense - I'm not making money, I'm literally losing money since I can't even replace the car for what they're paying me. One follow-up question - if they do send a 1099, should I be worried about triggering an audit? I've never had to offset income like this before and I'm nervous about doing anything that might flag my return for review. Is this common enough that the IRS sees these types of adjustments regularly?

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Layla Mendes

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Audit concerns are understandable but really not necessary here. The IRS sees casualty loss reimbursements constantly - car accidents, property damage, insurance settlements - these are routine situations. Properly reporting a 1099 with an offsetting adjustment for non-taxable property damage compensation is actually the CORRECT way to handle it, not something that raises red flags. What would be more likely to trigger scrutiny is if you received a 1099 and failed to report it at all, or if you reported it as taxable income when it shouldn't be. The IRS computer systems are designed to match 1099s to tax returns, so they want to see it accounted for properly. The key is documentation and clear explanations. When you offset the 1099 amount, use specific language like "Property damage reimbursement - vehicle totaled in accident - not taxable per IRC Section 104" or similar. This shows you understand the tax law and are applying it correctly. Think of it this way: you're demonstrating compliance, not trying to hide anything. The adjustment you're making is supported by well-established tax principles, and you have documentation to back it up. That's exactly what the IRS wants to see.

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GalaxyGlider

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Don't let this situation stress you out too much - you're handling it exactly right by asking questions upfront. I went through something very similar when a contractor's truck damaged my driveway and fence. They paid me directly and requested a W-9, which initially freaked me out too. Here's what I learned: The W-9 is just their way of covering their bases for any payment over $600. It doesn't automatically mean you'll get a 1099, and even if you do, it doesn't automatically mean taxable income. In your case, since you're receiving less than what you originally paid for the car, this is clearly compensation for property damage, not income. The most important thing is documentation. Keep your original purchase paperwork, any photos of the damage, the settlement agreement, and especially any communication that specifically describes this as property damage compensation. I'd also suggest getting something in writing from them (even just an email) confirming that this payment is specifically for property damage to replace your totaled vehicle. If they do send a 1099, don't panic. It's actually quite common in these situations, and tax software like TurboTax handles it well. You'll report the 1099 amount and then offset it with an explanation that it's non-taxable property damage compensation. The net tax effect is zero. You're not trying to avoid paying legitimate taxes - you're just ensuring you don't pay taxes on money that replaces something you already owned and lost. The IRS completely understands this distinction.

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ShadowHunter

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same process. I'm definitely feeling more confident about handling this situation now. One thing I'm curious about - when you got the settlement agreement, did they specifically mention anything about tax implications or did they leave that part vague? I'm wondering if I should ask them directly about their intentions regarding the 1099 before I sign anything, or if that might complicate the settlement process unnecessarily. Also, did your insurance company have any concerns about you accepting payment directly from the other party instead of going through the normal claims process? I want to make sure I'm not creating any issues for myself down the road.

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Jamal Thompson

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One option that hasn't been fully explored here is restructuring your compensation strategy. Since you can't use Section 127 as a sole owner, consider whether increasing your W-2 wages (while keeping them reasonable) makes sense for your overall tax situation. You'd pay more in payroll taxes, but you'd have more after-tax income to put toward student loans. Another angle - if your business has strong cash flow, you might want to look into whether any of your student loan interest qualifies for the business interest deduction if the education was directly related to your business operations. This is different from the personal student loan interest deduction and has different limitations. Also, don't overlook the possibility of setting up a legitimate education assistance program now with proper documentation, even if you can't use it immediately. If you plan to hire employees within the next couple years, having the framework in place could be valuable. Just make sure any program you establish truly meets the non-discrimination requirements and isn't primarily for your benefit as the owner.

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Lindsey Fry

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This is really helpful perspective! I hadn't considered the timing aspect of setting up an educational assistance program ahead of hiring. How do you document "intent to hire" in a way that would satisfy IRS requirements if they ever questioned it? Also, regarding the business interest deduction - would that apply even if the MBA was completed before I started the S-Corp? My degree was finished about 6 months before I incorporated, but the skills are directly what I use in my consulting business now.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to add something that might be helpful for future planning. While Section 127 won't work for you as a sole owner now, there's an interesting strategy some S-Corp owners use when they're genuinely planning to expand their workforce. You can establish what's called a "cafeteria plan" under Section 125 that includes educational benefits as one component. This is broader than just Section 127 and can potentially include student loan assistance as part of a comprehensive benefits package. The key is that it needs to be part of a legitimate plan to offer benefits to future employees, not just a workaround for the owner. The documentation requirements are pretty strict though - you'd need business projections showing planned hiring, job descriptions for anticipated positions, and a timeline for implementation. If you're audited, the IRS will want to see that this was a genuine business expansion plan, not just a tax avoidance scheme. Another consideration: some states are starting to offer their own student loan repayment assistance programs for small business owners who meet certain criteria. It's worth checking if your state has anything like that, especially if your business is in a field they're trying to encourage (like tech, healthcare, or green energy). The tax landscape for small business owners and education expenses is definitely frustrating, but there may be more options opening up in the coming years as lawmakers recognize the burden on business owners who invested in their own education.

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This is really interesting information about cafeteria plans! I'm curious though - wouldn't a Section 125 plan still run into the same discrimination issues that Section 127 has? As a sole owner, I'd still be considered a highly compensated employee, and most non-discrimination rules are designed to prevent exactly this type of situation where the owner is the primary beneficiary. Also, regarding the state programs you mentioned - do you know which states currently offer these? I'm in California and would love to look into whether there's anything available here. The idea of combining business expansion planning with legitimate benefit structures is appealing, but I want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for problems down the road if my hiring timeline doesn't match what I documented.

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Ashley Simian

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I was in your exact situation last year! One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you made over $12,000, you might benefit from setting up an S-Corp in the future. I stayed as a sole proprietor for my first two years but once I hit around $40k in profit, my accountant had me switch to save on self-employment taxes. Not worth it at your current income level but something to consider if your side gig grows. The paperwork and extra requirements are a pain though, so don't rush into it.

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Oliver Cheng

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When did you know it was the right time to make the switch? I'm making about $30k from freelancing now but worried about the extra costs of running an S-corp. Is there like a calculator somewhere to figure out if its worth it?

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Don't stress too much about not having a "registered business" - you're already considered self-employed in the IRS's eyes! Since you made $12,400, you'll definitely want to file Schedule C with your regular tax return. The threshold for requiring Schedule C is just $400 in self-employment income. A few quick tips from someone who went through this exact situation: - Keep ALL records of payments, even Venmo/PayPal transactions - You can deduct software like Adobe Creative Suite, Canva Pro, etc. - If you bought any equipment this year (external monitor, graphics tablet, etc.), those are deductible too - Don't forget about the business use portion of your internet and phone bills Since you made over $400, you'll owe self-employment tax (about 15.3%) plus regular income tax on the profit. I'd recommend setting aside about 25-30% of what you made for taxes to be safe. And definitely start making quarterly estimated payments for 2025 if you plan to continue - it'll save you from a big tax bill next year! The whole process is way less scary than it seems. You've got this!

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Zara Mirza

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been putting off dealing with this because I thought I'd need to register an LLC or something complicated first. The 25-30% rule for setting aside taxes is super helpful - I honestly hadn't thought about how much I might owe. Quick question though - when you say "business use portion" of internet and phone bills, how do you actually calculate that? Like if I use my phone 20% for client calls and emails, can I deduct 20% of my monthly bill? And do I need to keep detailed logs of usage or is a reasonable estimate okay? Also really glad you mentioned the quarterly payments thing. I definitely want to keep doing this freelance work so I'll need to figure that out for next year. Thanks for making this seem way less intimidating!

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CosmicCadet

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Has anyone dealt with state tax withholding as an NRA? My federal is correct now (using regular rates for ECI), but my California state withholding seems off. Do states follow the same ECI rules as federal?

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Chloe Harris

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State tax rules for NRAs vary by state but generally follow federal determination of income source. For California specifically, they're pretty aggressive about taxing income earned while physically working in CA, regardless of your federal residence status. So yes, if your income is ECI for federal purposes, CA will tax it at their regular rates too.

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Diego Mendoza

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Watch out for state-specific rules. I'm in Texas (no state income tax), but my friend in New York had issues as an NRA. NY made him file a nonresident state return but still taxed all his NY-sourced income. Each state has its own rules for NRAs.

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Zainab Ismail

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation last year. I'm on an H-1B visa and was classified as an NRA for tax purposes since I didn't meet the SPT. The key thing to understand is that your work authorization visa status is completely separate from your tax residence status. Even though you're an NRA, your wages are still Effectively Connected Income (ECI) because you're physically performing services in the US under a valid work visa. One thing I'd recommend is asking your HR to consult with their payroll provider or tax advisor. Many companies use ADP, Paychex, etc., and these providers usually have specialists who understand NRA withholding rules. My company initially wanted to withhold at 30%, but after their payroll consultant confirmed the ECI rules, they switched to normal progressive withholding. Also, make sure you're prepared to file Form 1040NR instead of the regular 1040 at tax time, even though your withholding follows regular rates. The filing requirements are different for NRAs even when the withholding rates are the same.

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Aisha Mahmood

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This is really helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! I'm in a similar situation on an L-1 visa and my company's HR has been going back and forth on this. Quick question - when you say "ask HR to consult with their payroll provider," did you have to push them to do this or were they receptive? I'm worried about seeming like I'm telling them how to do their job, but I also don't want to end up with a huge tax bill because of incorrect withholding. Also, do you know if the Form 1040NR filing affects things like eligibility for tax software discounts or free filing programs? I've been using TurboTax but not sure if they handle NRA returns the same way.

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Carmen Flores

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Has anyone used TurboTax to handle reporting a vacation home sale? I'm dealing with this exact situation now and wondering if I need to pay for a CPA or if the software can handle it properly.

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Andre Dubois

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I used TurboTax Premier last year for selling my cabin. It walked me through everything - basis adjustments, improvements, depreciation (I had rented it out occasionally). It was surprisingly thorough with good explanations. Just make sure you have all your records organized before you start.

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Ethan Clark

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Great question! Yes, you'll definitely owe capital gains tax on that $175,000 profit since it's a vacation home, not your primary residence. The good news is that since you've owned it for over a year, you'll pay the lower long-term capital gains rate (likely 15% or 20% depending on your income level). A few things that could help reduce your tax bill: - Document ALL improvements you've made over the 8 years (new appliances, flooring, roof repairs, deck additions, etc.) - these get added to your original $195k purchase price - Don't forget closing costs from when you bought it originally - You can deduct selling expenses like realtor commissions and closing costs from the sale Since you're planning to retire to Florida soon, the timing might actually work in your favor if your retirement income will be lower - that could potentially put you in the 15% capital gains bracket instead of 20%. Definitely worth running the numbers or consulting with a tax professional given the size of the gain!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the improvement documentation - how detailed do the records need to be? I've definitely done upgrades over the years but I'm not sure I kept every single receipt. Will the IRS accept things like credit card statements showing purchases at Home Depot, or do they need actual itemized receipts for everything? Also, when you mention closing costs from the original purchase, does that include things like the home inspection and appraisal fees we paid back then? I think I might still have those documents somewhere in my files.

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