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KaiEsmeralda

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This is a complex situation that really highlights the importance of understanding trust tax elections before making these transfers. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential for making a Section 645 election if your grandparents' trust qualifies. If this is a qualified revocable trust that became irrevocable upon your grandparents' death (or if they're still alive but incapacitated), the trustee might be able to elect to treat the trust as part of the estate for income tax purposes during the first two years. This could potentially preserve access to certain individual tax benefits. Also, even if the trust doesn't qualify for the capital gains exclusion, don't forget that trusts get their own capital gains tax brackets. The rates can be quite high (up to 20% plus the 3.8% net investment income tax), but proper timing of the sale and potentially distributing some gains to beneficiaries in lower tax brackets could help minimize the overall tax impact. I'd strongly recommend getting a comprehensive analysis from a tax professional who specializes in trust taxation before proceeding with the sale. The potential tax savings from getting this right could easily justify the consultation cost.

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Cynthia Love

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This is really helpful information about the Section 645 election! I hadn't heard of that option before. Just to clarify - would this election only be available if the grandparents have passed away or become incapacitated, or could it potentially apply to a living trust that was made irrevocable for other reasons (like Medicaid planning)? Also, when you mention distributing gains to beneficiaries in lower tax brackets, how does that work practically? Would the trust need to actually distribute cash to them, or can it just allocate the tax burden without distributing the proceeds from the sale?

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Diego Mendoza

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Great point about the Section 645 election! To clarify - the Section 645 election is specifically for qualified revocable trusts (QRTs) that become irrevocable due to the grantor's death or incapacity. It wouldn't apply to a trust that was made irrevocable for Medicaid planning or other reasons while the grantor is still alive and competent. Regarding distributing gains to beneficiaries - this works through the trust's distributable net income (DNI) rules. When a trust distributes income (including capital gains if the trust document permits or requires their distribution), the tax burden generally passes through to the beneficiaries at their individual tax rates rather than being taxed at the trust's compressed brackets. The distribution doesn't have to be cash from the actual sale proceeds - it could be other trust assets of equivalent value. However, the trust document needs to specifically allow for capital gains to be included in distributable income, as many trusts require capital gains to be retained and allocated to principal rather than income. This is definitely an area where the specific language in the trust document matters enormously, and proper tax planning before the sale could make a huge difference in the overall tax burden.

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Harmony Love

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my elderly parents who put their home in an irrevocable trust about 5 years ago. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like the key is determining whether their trust maintains grantor trust status. From the discussion, it seems like there are a few good options for getting clarity: consulting with the original estate planning attorney, using services like taxr.ai for professional analysis, or even getting through to the IRS directly (though that last one sounds challenging without help like Claimyr). One question I have - if the trust IS determined to be a grantor trust and they can claim the exclusion, do they report the sale on their personal tax return (Form 1040) or does it still need to go through the trust's return? I want to make sure we handle the reporting correctly to avoid any red flags with the IRS. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world insight that's hard to find elsewhere!

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Ravi Kapoor

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Has anyone used TurboTax for claiming these energy credits across multiple years? Their software kept giving me errors when I tried to enter my panel upgrade from last year that connects to this year's heat pump. Wondering if I need to use a different tax software.

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Freya Larsen

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I used FreeTaxUSA and it handled my similar situation perfectly. They have specific questions about energy efficiency upgrades and let you indicate when components were installed to support other qualified equipment. Way cheaper than TurboTax too.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'll check out FreeTaxUSA. I've been using TurboTax for years but they really seem to struggle with these newer energy credits, especially when projects span multiple tax years. Did you have to provide any extra documentation when you filed or was it all just entered into their forms?

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Natalie Wang

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! Had my panel upgraded in 2023 ($4,200) and then did a heat pump installation in early 2024 ($9,500). I was able to successfully claim the 30% credit for the panel upgrade on my 2023 return. The key thing that helped me was getting a letter from my HVAC contractor stating that the electrical panel upgrade was specifically required to support the planned heat pump installation. Even though the installations were months apart, the IRS accepted this documentation showing they were part of a connected project. I ended up getting back $1,260 for the panel upgrade (30% of $4,200) on my 2023 taxes, and I'm planning to claim the heat pump credit on this year's return. Just make sure you keep all your receipts and any communication with contractors that shows the panel was upgraded specifically to accommodate the heat pump's electrical requirements. One tip: if you don't have existing documentation, reach out to your electrician now and ask them to provide a letter confirming the panel upgrade was necessary for your heat pump installation. Most contractors are happy to provide this kind of documentation after the fact.

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the process successfully! I'm curious - did you have to provide the contractor letter when you initially filed, or did you just keep it on hand in case of an audit? Also, when you claim the heat pump credit on this year's return, do you need to reference the previous year's panel upgrade at all, or are they treated as completely separate credits even though they're connected? I want to make sure I handle the documentation correctly for both years.

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Ryan Kim

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Has anyone looked into coworking spaces as an alternative? I'm in the same boat (W-2 remote worker) and my company gives us a $250/month stipend that I use for a local coworking space 2-3 days a week. The membership is 100% tax free since my company pays it directly, and I get out of the house which helps with my sanity lol.

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Zoe Walker

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How did you convince your company to pay for that? Mine acts like letting me work remote is doing me some huge favor even tho they closed our local office during covid!

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Miguel Castro

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I've been in a similar situation and wanted to share what worked for me. While it's true that W-2 employees can't claim the home office deduction right now, I found a few workarounds that helped: 1. **Equipment purchases**: If you buy office equipment that your employer doesn't provide (monitor, ergonomic chair, etc.), keep receipts. Some employers will reimburse these after the fact if you make a good case. 2. **State tax differences**: Depending on your state, there might still be some remote work deductions available at the state level even if federal doesn't allow them. Worth checking your state's tax code. 3. **Document everything anyway**: Start keeping detailed records of your home office expenses now. If the tax laws change after 2025 (when current restrictions expire), you'll be ready. Plus if you ever do freelance work on the side, those records become valuable. The employer reimbursement route that others mentioned is definitely the best current option. Frame it as a business expense for them rather than asking for a "favor" - most companies save money on office space when employees work remote, so a home office stipend is still cheaper for them than maintaining physical office space.

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Wesley Hallow

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This is really helpful advice, especially the point about documenting everything now for potential future use! I'm curious about the state tax differences you mentioned - do you know which states still allow some form of home office deduction for remote workers? I'm in Texas so no state income tax here, but I have friends in other states who might benefit from this info. Also, that's a smart way to frame the employer reimbursement request - focusing on the cost savings to the company rather than making it seem like you're asking for extra benefits. Did you have to provide specific documentation of your expenses when you requested reimbursement, or were they pretty flexible about it?

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Sofia Torres

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Just FYI, I claimed my kid living in Japan with my ex and got audited last year. Had to prove I provided more than 50% of his total support. Make sure you have: - Receipts for all money transfers - School tuition receipts if you pay them - A signed statement from the other parent about what they contribute (if possible) - Bills you pay directly (medical, etc) Without good records it's really hard to defend your claim when the IRS comes asking!

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Ethan Brown

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my son who lives with his grandmother in the Philippines. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like the key is proving I provide more than half his total support as a "qualifying relative" rather than trying to meet the residency test for "qualifying child." I've been sending money monthly for his school, food, and clothing, but I never thought to document everything properly. After reading about Sofia's audit experience, I'm definitely going to start keeping better records of all my transfers and any direct payments I make. Does anyone know if there's a specific dollar threshold for the support test, or is it purely based on the percentage of total expenses? Also, has anyone dealt with getting documentation from family members overseas about what they contribute? My son's grandmother helps with some expenses but I'm not sure how to account for that in the calculation.

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Miguel Ortiz

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Hey Ethan! Great questions. For the support test, there's no specific dollar threshold - it's purely percentage-based. You need to provide more than 50% of your son's TOTAL support for the year, which includes housing, food, clothing, education, medical care, etc. Getting documentation from overseas family can be tricky but super important. I'd suggest asking your son's grandmother to write a simple letter listing what she pays for (like utilities, groceries, housing costs) and approximate monthly amounts. Even if it's not perfect, having some record is way better than nothing. One tip that helped me: create a spreadsheet with two columns - "What I Pay" and "What Others Pay" - then track everything monthly. Include the value of housing (even if grandmother owns the home, estimate what rent would cost), food, utilities, school supplies, clothes, medical expenses, everything. This gives you a clear picture of whether you're hitting that 50%+ threshold. The IRS really focuses on having reasonable documentation during audits, so even imperfect records are better than no records at all!

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Ana Erdoğan

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I bought single W2 and W3 forms at Walmart in the tax forms section last year. They had small packs (I think it was like 3 forms) for household employers. Check the office supply/tax preparation aisle. This was in February though, so they might only stock them during tax season.

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Benjamin Kim

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Thanks for the tip about Walmart! I'll check there. Do you remember approximately how much they cost? And were they the official red ones that the IRS accepts?

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Ana Erdoğan

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I think they were around $8-10 for a small packet of forms. Yes, they were the official IRS-approved forms with the red ink. They came with instructions too, which was helpful since I was filling these out for the first time. The other option that worked great for me was filing electronically through the SSA website. If you go to the Business Services Online section on ssa.gov, you can register as a household employer and submit the W2/W3 information directly without needing the paper forms at all.

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Sophia Carson

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Just wanted to mention that if you're a household employer, you might want to consider using a nanny payroll service for next year. I use Homepay and they handle all the W2/W3 filings automatically. It costs a bit more than doing it yourself, but they take care of all the quarterly filings, unemployment taxes, and year-end forms. Saved me so much hassle!

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Elijah Knight

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How much does Homepay charge? I've been doing my nanny taxes myself but it's such a pain every year.

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