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One additional consideration for your family members who are green card holders - make sure they understand the potential implications if they ever decide to give up their permanent resident status in the future. There are specific tax rules around "expatriation" that can affect how inherited retirement accounts are treated. Also, regarding the executor distributing checks directly from the estate, you'll want to confirm whether this is coming from a liquidation of the entire IRA or if there are options to do a direct rollover to inherited IRAs instead. Sometimes executors take the path of least resistance by liquidating everything, but beneficiaries may still have the right to request direct transfers to inherited IRAs, which could give you more control over the timing of distributions and tax planning. If the funds are already being distributed as checks, just be aware that you typically have 60 days from receipt to potentially roll any portion into an inherited IRA if you decide you want more control over the distribution timeline. Not all situations allow this, but it's worth asking the executor or a tax professional about your specific circumstances. The fact that you're being proactive about tax planning now puts you ahead of many people who just accept whatever distribution method the executor chooses without considering alternatives.

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Ava Martinez

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This is really valuable information about the 60-day rollover window! I had no idea that might still be an option even if the executor is planning to distribute checks. That could potentially give us much more flexibility in managing the tax impact across multiple years rather than taking it all as income in one year. The point about expatriation rules is also something I hadn't considered. While my sister and dad don't have any current plans to give up their green card status, it's good to know there could be future implications to consider when making decisions about how to handle these inherited accounts. I'm definitely going to contact the executor this week to ask about the direct rollover option before they finalize the distribution method. Even if they've already started the liquidation process, it sounds like there might still be ways to optimize this situation. Thanks for pointing out that we have more options than I initially thought!

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a very similar situation - my uncle passed away in 2020 and left retirement accounts to multiple beneficiaries including some non-citizens. A few additional points that might help: Regarding the distribution timing, since you mentioned the executor is preparing checks, you should definitely ask if they're doing mandatory withholding. Many executors will withhold 20% for federal taxes on IRA distributions, but this isn't always communicated clearly to beneficiaries ahead of time. If they're not withholding, you'll want to calculate estimated quarterly payments to avoid underpayment penalties. For your father at 82, even though the 10-year rule applies, his age actually works in his favor from a tax perspective. Since he's likely in retirement with potentially lower income, spreading the distributions over several years might keep him in lower tax brackets compared to your situation where you're still working. One thing that really helped our family was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking each beneficiary's projected income for the next few years, then mapping out distribution strategies that minimized the overall family tax burden. Sometimes it makes sense for one person to take larger distributions in a low-income year while others delay theirs. The mortgage payoff strategy is smart - just remember to factor in the mortgage interest deduction you'll be losing when calculating the net benefit of paying it off early.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive planning approach I was looking for! The spreadsheet idea for tracking everyone's projected income and optimizing distributions across the family makes so much sense. I hadn't thought about coordinating our strategies to minimize the overall family tax burden rather than just focusing on each person individually. Your point about the 20% withholding is crucial - I definitely need to clarify this with the executor before they cut the checks. And you're absolutely right about my dad potentially being in a better position tax-wise since he's retired. His Social Security and pension income is relatively modest, so spreading his distributions over multiple years could keep him in much lower brackets than if my sister and I (who are both still working full-time) took similar distribution patterns. The mortgage interest deduction loss is a good reminder too. With the higher standard deduction these days, I'm not sure I'm even itemizing anymore, but I should double-check how much I'm actually benefiting from that interest deduction before assuming the payoff is a slam dunk. Thanks for sharing your family's experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this process successfully!

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Emma Wilson

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This is such valuable information! I'm dealing with a similar situation with multiple unfiled returns from 2016-2019. One thing I learned from my tax preparer is that you should also check if you had any federal tax withholdings or estimated tax payments for those years. Even if you can't get a refund anymore, those payments can sometimes be applied to current tax liabilities or future years. Also, for anyone worried about the complexity of filing old returns, the IRS still accepts the tax forms from those years. You don't have to use current year forms - you can download the 2017 Form 1040 and instructions from the IRS website archives. This makes it much easier since the tax laws and forms were different back then. The peace of mind from getting these filed is worth it, even without the refund potential. No more worrying about that unfiled return hanging over your head!

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This is really helpful advice! I didn't know you could still use the old tax forms from previous years. I've been putting off filing my 2018 return because I thought I'd have to figure out how current tax laws applied to that old year. The point about withholdings is interesting too - I had taxes withheld from my W-2 that year, so even though I can't get a refund, at least those payments are on record. Did your tax preparer mention anything about how to handle situations where you might have lost some of your tax documents from those older years? I'm missing a couple of 1099s from 2018 and wasn't sure if that would complicate the filing process.

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For missing 1099s from older years, you can request a wage and income transcript from the IRS using Form 4506-T. This will show you all the income documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) that were reported to the IRS for that tax year. It's actually really helpful because sometimes you'll discover income documents you forgot about or never received. You can request transcripts online through the IRS website, by phone, or by mail. The transcript will show the exact amounts reported by your employers and financial institutions, so you can use that information to complete your return accurately even without the physical documents. This is especially useful for old returns where you might have moved or changed addresses multiple times since then. The transcript method has saved me so much hassle when dealing with missing tax documents from previous years. Much easier than trying to track down old employers or banks!

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I just want to emphasize something that might not be obvious from all the technical statute discussion - even if you're past the refund deadline, filing your old return can actually save you money in the long run if the IRS decides to prepare a substitute return for you. When the IRS creates a substitute return (called an SFR - Substitute for Return), they only include income reported to them and give you the standard deduction with no itemized deductions or credits. This usually results in a much higher tax liability than if you filed yourself. I had a friend who ignored his 2016 return thinking "what's the point if I can't get my refund?" The IRS eventually filed an SFR showing he owed $8,000. When he finally filed his actual return, it turned out he only owed $1,200 because he had legitimate deductions the IRS didn't account for. Filing late saved him almost $7,000! So even though Giovanni can't get his 2017 refund anymore, filing that return could protect him from a much worse outcome down the road.

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This is such an important point that doesn't get talked about enough! I had no idea the IRS could file a substitute return that would be so much worse than what you'd actually owe. That's honestly terrifying - $8,000 vs $1,200 is a huge difference. This makes me want to prioritize getting my old returns filed even more. I've been procrastinating on my 2019 return thinking it wasn't urgent since I can't get the refund anyway, but the idea that the IRS might create their own version that ignores all my deductions is really motivating me to get it done. Do you know if there's a typical timeframe for when the IRS might file an SFR? Like, should I be worried they're going to do this soon, or do they usually wait several years before taking that step?

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NeonNinja

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idk why but navy fed has been slower than usual this year with irs deposits ngl

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its actually the irs thats slow not navy fed

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NeonNinja

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Navy Fed is usually pretty reliable! I've been banking with them for 3 years and they consistently deposit my refunds 1-2 days before the DDD. Since your transcript shows 3/20, I'd expect to see it hit your account by tomorrow morning (3/19) or even tonight after midnight. They typically process overnight around 2-3am EST. Hang in there!

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Great question about scanner durability during peak season! I've been working in tax prep for about 8 years and learned this lesson the hard way when our first scanner died right in the middle of February rush. One thing I'd suggest regardless of which model you choose - make sure to factor in a maintenance plan or at least keep some basic cleaning supplies on hand. Even the best scanners need regular cleaning during high-volume periods, especially when you're processing lots of receipts that might have residue or be slightly sticky. Also consider getting a backup solution, even if it's just a basic flatbed scanner. When your main scanner goes down during tax season and you're scrambling to meet deadlines, having ANY working scanner can save your sanity. We learned this after our main unit jammed on a particularly thick client folder and we had to send someone to Office Depot at 9 PM to buy a consumer-grade scanner just to keep working. The investment in a quality scanner like the ones mentioned here is definitely worth it, but having a contingency plan is equally important during those critical months when downtime isn't an option!

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Evelyn Kelly

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This is such great advice about having a backup plan! I learned this lesson during my first tax season when our main scanner died on February 28th - literally the worst possible timing. We ended up using a basic HP flatbed scanner for three days straight and it was absolutely brutal, but at least we could keep processing returns. Now we keep a mid-range document scanner as our backup (nothing fancy, just a reliable Brother model) and it's saved us twice when our main unit needed service. The peace of mind is worth the extra investment, especially when you're dealing with client deadlines and can't afford any downtime. Also totally agree on the maintenance supplies - we keep cleaning sheets and compressed air on hand and do a quick clean every few hundred pages during peak season. Takes 5 minutes but prevents so many headaches down the road.

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Tax preparer here with 12+ years experience! I went through this exact scanner upgrade last year after our old Xerox finally died during the busiest week in February. After extensive research and testing several models, I ended up with the Fujitsu fi-7300NX and it's been absolutely incredible. At around $1,200, it fits your budget perfectly. What really sets it apart is the 80-page ADF capacity and 60 ppm duplex speed - but more importantly, it's built like a tank. We've put over 50,000 pages through it in the past year without a single jam or mechanical issue. The PaperStream IP software that comes with it has phenomenal OCR accuracy on tax documents. It automatically detects form types (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) and creates perfectly searchable PDFs. The blank page removal and auto-rotate features save tons of time when processing mixed client documents. One feature that's been a game-changer: the ultrasonic double-feed detection prevents those nightmare scenarios where multiple pages get scanned as one document. During tax season when you're flying through stacks of paperwork, this has probably saved us hours of rescanning. The network connectivity is also fantastic - our whole team can scan directly to shared folders, which makes client file organization seamless. Honestly, this scanner has transformed our document workflow and I can't imagine going back to our old setup!

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This sounds like exactly what we need! Quick question about the network connectivity - how easy is it to set up scanning profiles for different staff members? We have a few part-time employees during tax season who aren't super tech-savvy, and I want to make sure they can easily scan to the right client folders without accidentally messing up our filing system. Does the PaperStream software allow you to create simple, foolproof scanning presets that even temporary staff can use reliably?

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Natalie Chen

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I had a very similar situation when my partner moved in with me after I bought our house solo due to his student loan debt affecting his credit. What really helped us was setting up clear documentation from the start. We created a simple expense-sharing agreement that outlined exactly what costs we'd split (mortgage payment, utilities, groceries, etc.) and what percentage each person would pay. This made it crystal clear that the monthly transfers were for legitimate shared expenses, not rental payments or income. For the banking/reporting side, our monthly transfers of around $1,200 never triggered any IRS reporting. Banks generally only report specific types of transactions - like interest over $10, business payments over $600 through payment apps, or cash transactions over $10,000. Regular personal transfers between individuals for expense sharing don't fall into these categories. One tip: if you use payment apps like Venmo or PayPal, always categorize the transfers as "personal" or "friends & family" rather than "goods & services." This keeps them clearly marked as personal transactions rather than business payments that might trigger reporting. The key thing the IRS cares about is whether you're making profit from the arrangement. Since you're just splitting actual household costs and not charging above market rates, these transfers are reimbursements, not taxable income. Keep basic records of your shared expenses and you'll be all set!

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Zainab Omar

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This is exactly the kind of thorough approach I wish I had taken from the beginning! The expense-sharing agreement sounds like such a smart move - it creates a clear paper trail showing the intent behind the transfers. I'm definitely going to draft something similar for my situation. Your point about always marking payment app transfers as "personal" is really important too. I hadn't thought about how the categorization could affect reporting requirements, but it makes total sense that marking something as "goods & services" might trigger different rules than "friends & family." The $1,200 monthly transfers you mentioned are even higher than what we're planning, so it's reassuring to hear that amount didn't cause any reporting issues. It really reinforces that the IRS is more concerned with the nature and purpose of the transfers rather than just the dollar amounts for regular personal transactions. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this exact situation successfully!

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One thing that might give you additional peace of mind is understanding that the IRS receives millions of bank transaction reports annually, and they're primarily looking for patterns that suggest unreported business income or tax evasion - not legitimate expense sharing between partners. Your situation is actually very common. Many couples handle finances this way when only one person qualifies for the mortgage. The $800-900 monthly amount you mentioned is well within the range of normal household expense sharing and wouldn't raise any red flags. I'd suggest keeping it simple: maintain basic records of your shared expenses (maybe just save your monthly utility bills and mortgage statements), and if you want extra documentation, a simple text message or email chain between you two about the expense arrangement can serve as evidence of your intent. Also remember that even if somehow these transfers were ever questioned, the burden would be on the IRS to prove they represent unreported income rather than legitimate expense reimbursements. As long as you can show the money is going toward actual household costs you both benefit from, you're in good shape. Don't overthink it - you're being responsible by planning ahead, and your arrangement sounds completely legitimate!

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Simon White

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This perspective really helps calm my nerves about the whole situation! You're absolutely right that the IRS is dealing with massive volumes of data and looking for actual tax evasion patterns, not people legitimately splitting household costs. I think I was getting caught up in overthinking what's really a pretty straightforward arrangement. The idea of keeping some text messages or emails about our expense agreement is brilliant - it's documentation that feels natural rather than overly formal, but still shows our clear intent. Your point about the burden of proof being on the IRS is reassuring too. If I can easily show that his $800-900 monthly transfers directly correspond to his share of our mortgage, utilities, and other shared costs, that should be more than sufficient evidence that this is expense reimbursement, not hidden income. Thanks for the reality check - sometimes you need someone to remind you that normal life arrangements between partners don't need to be treated like complex business transactions!

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