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Make sure you set aside money for state taxes too! Federal underpayment penalties are bad, but some states are even worse. I'm in California and learned this the hard way last year.
I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago with a consulting gig. Here's what I learned that might help you: First, don't panic - the underpayment penalty isn't as scary as it sounds. It's calculated quarterly and the current rate is around 8% annually, so you're looking at roughly 2% per quarter on the amount you should have paid. Since you mentioned making $7,800/month, you're probably looking at owing around $25,000-30,000 in federal taxes (rough estimate). The penalty would be calculated on what you should have paid each quarter vs. what you actually paid (zero). Here's what you can do RIGHT NOW to minimize damage: 1. Make a large estimated payment by January 15th for Q4 2024 2. Calculate 25-30% of your total earnings and set that aside immediately 3. Look into business deductions - home office, equipment, internet, phone, etc. The key is that January payment. Even though you missed the first three quarters, paying a substantial amount for Q4 will reduce your overall penalty significantly. I ended up paying about $400 in penalties on a $28k tax bill, which was much less than I feared. Also consider opening a SEP-IRA before year-end - you can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income, which will reduce your taxable income substantially.
I'm in a similar situation - filed on Jan 30th and still stuck at "Return Received" with no movement. It's frustrating seeing that same message about "still being processed" every single day when you check. From what I've been reading here and on other forums, it seems like the IRS is just really backed up this year. One thing that's helped me stay sane is setting a specific time to check (like once in the evening) instead of refreshing it multiple times throughout the day. The anxiety of checking constantly was getting to me! Has anyone noticed if certain days of the week tend to show updates more often? I've heard some people say weekends vs weekdays make a difference but not sure if that's actually true or just coincidence.
I totally feel you on the constant checking anxiety! I'm new to this whole tax filing thing and have been doing the exact same refresh routine multiple times a day. From what I've been reading in this thread and others, it seems like the updates usually happen overnight, so checking once in the evening like you're doing is probably the smartest approach. I've been trying to limit myself to once a day too but it's harder than it sounds when you're waiting for your refund! As for specific days, I haven't noticed a pattern yet but I'm curious if others have insights on that too.
I've been in your exact situation before and I know how nerve-wracking it can be! The "Return Received" status with no movement is actually super common, especially during peak filing season. I filed around the same time last year and was stuck at that stage for almost 3 weeks before it suddenly jumped to "Refund Approved" and then got my deposit 2 days later. The key thing to remember is that "Return Received" just means your return made it into their system successfully and is waiting in the processing queue. It doesn't mean there are any problems or red flags - it's literally just sitting in line with thousands of other returns. One tip that helped me: try to check only once a day, preferably in the evening since that's when the system typically updates. I used to obsessively refresh it multiple times a day and it was driving me crazy! Also, if you can access your IRS transcript online, that sometimes shows activity before the WMR tool does. Stay patient - your refund is coming! šŖ
Has anyone looked into whether this could be grounds for filing a police report for fraud? If the preparer took money specifically to file taxes, then intentionally didn't file them, that seems like criminal fraud not just a civil dispute.
I had something similar happen in 2023 and did file a police report. They took it and gave me a case number but honestly didn't seem very interested in pursuing it. However, having that police report number was super helpful when dealing with the IRS and in small claims court. The judge took it way more seriously seeing I'd filed fraud charges.
This is such a frustrating situation, and I feel for you dealing with this mess. Beyond the great advice already given about filing complaints and penalty abatement, I'd strongly recommend also checking if your state has a victim compensation fund for financial crimes. Some states offer restitution programs specifically for fraud victims. Also, when you file your complaint with the IRS using Form 14157, make sure to request they investigate whether this preparer is doing this to other clients. If there's a pattern of this behavior, the IRS can shut them down and potentially pursue criminal charges. The more documentation you can provide about their fraudulent practices, the stronger the case becomes. One more thing - if you paid by check, contact your bank to see if they can provide additional documentation showing the check was cashed. Sometimes banks can provide more detailed records than just your statement, which can be helpful evidence in both your penalty abatement request and any legal action you pursue.
Great additional points! I hadn't thought about victim compensation funds - that could really help offset some of the financial damage. Quick question about the bank documentation - would transaction records showing exactly when the check was cashed be enough, or should I also try to get copies of the actual deposited check images? My bank charges for those but it might be worth it if it strengthens my case.
The transaction records showing when the check was cashed should be sufficient for most purposes, especially since they clearly establish the timeline - that you paid for services but didn't receive them. However, if your case goes to small claims court or if the IRS requests additional documentation during their investigation, having the actual check images could be valuable because they show the preparer's endorsement and account information. I'd suggest starting with the basic transaction records since they're free, and only pay for the check images if you need them later. Most penalty abatement requests and initial complaints won't require that level of detail. You can always request them later if your case escalates or if the preparer tries to claim they never received payment. Also, make sure to document any attempts you've made to contact the preparer since the check was cashed - unanswered calls, unreturned messages, etc. This shows you acted in good faith and tried to resolve the issue before involving authorities.
Protip: Check your VA tax account online instead of TurboTax status. Sometimes TT is slow to update the state status
Just wanted to chime in with some additional perspective - I've been dealing with VA state returns for years and this level of delay is unfortunately becoming more common. The identity verification measures Zainab mentioned are part of their effort to combat fraud, but it's definitely creating longer wait times for legitimate taxpayers. If you're really anxious about it, you can try calling the VA Department of Taxation directly at (804) 367-8031, though expect long hold times. Hang in there - your refund will come through!
Nia Harris
Has anyone noticed that TurboTax's handling of mortgage interest deductions has gotten way worse in the last couple years? I remember it being much more straightforward before the tax law changes. Now it seems like they've overcomplicated everything with too many questions and confusing language.
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Mateo Gonzalez
ā¢I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year after 10+ years of using TurboTax, and honestly, their mortgage interest section is much more straightforward. TurboTax kept messing up my rental property deductions and mortgage interest. FreeTaxUSA handled both my primary residence and rental property mortgage interest without any issues, and it's way cheaper too.
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Nia Harris
ā¢Thanks for the suggestion! I'm definitely going to look into FreeTaxUSA for next year. I've been loyal to TurboTax for so long, but every year it seems to get more expensive while the software gets buggier. How was the transition process? Was it easy to import previous year's info or did you have to start from scratch?
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Nia Williams
I've been dealing with mortgage interest deduction issues in TurboTax for years, and here's what usually fixes the problem when entering multiple properties: Make sure you're being very specific about the property types and dates in each section. TurboTax gets confused when it thinks you might have had two primary residences at the same time. For your situation, when you enter the first mortgage (2017 house), make sure to specify the exact date you sold it. When you enter the second mortgage (June 2021 house), make sure it's clearly marked as your primary residence starting from the purchase date. The key is in those follow-up questions after entering the 1098 data - TurboTax asks things like "Is this your main home?" and "Did you use this property as your primary residence for the entire year?" Since you sold one and bought another mid-year, you need to answer those questions very carefully for each property. If TurboTax thinks there's any overlap or confusion about which was your primary residence when, it can zero out all the deductions as a safety measure. Try going through each property's questions one more time and pay close attention to the residence type and date range questions.
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