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Your probably gonna see it next week or the week after. 05 usually means everything else is straight and their just finishing up. Unless you got other codes that need to clear first
Congrats on getting the 05 cycle! That's definitely progress. From what I've seen in this community, most people with 05 cycles see their 846 code within 2-3 weeks, but it really depends on if you have any other issues on your account. Check your transcript Friday mornings since that's when the weekly updates typically post. Fingers crossed you see that 846 soon! π€
Just FYI, since your income is so low, you might not even be required to file taxes at all. But you should definitely still file because if you had ANY taxes withheld from your paychecks you'll get all of that back as a refund since you won't owe any taxes. Look at your W-2 form in box 2 - if there's any amount there, that's money you'll get back!
I checked my W-2 and there's $212 in Box 2! So that means I'll get all of that back? That would be amazing, I could really use that right now. And thanks for mentioning that I might not be required to file. I wasn't sure about that, but I figured I should do it anyway just to be safe. Plus learning how to do this stuff now will probably help me in the future.
Yes, you'll get that entire $212 back as a refund! Since your income is below the standard deduction, you don't owe any federal income tax, so everything that was withheld gets returned to you. You're making a smart move by filing even though you might not be required to. It's good practice, and getting that refund is definitely worth the effort. Plus, as you mentioned, it's a valuable learning experience that will make things easier in future years when your tax situation might become more complex.
Be careful with claiming the standard deduction if anyone can claim you as a dependent! If your parents are claiming you on their taxes, the rules are different. Are you a dependent on someone else's return?
Oh shoot, I didn't even think about that. My parents do claim me as a dependent since I'm still living at home and they provide more than half my support. Does that change things dramatically? FreeTaxUSA asked if I was a dependent and I selected yes, so I think it's calculating everything correctly, but now I'm worried.
Don't worry! If you told FreeTaxUSA that you're a dependent, it should be calculating everything correctly for you. When you're claimed as a dependent, your standard deduction is limited to the greater of $1,150 OR your earned income plus $400 (up to the regular standard deduction amount). Since you earned $2,652, your standard deduction as a dependent would be $3,052 ($2,652 + $400). You'll still get that $212 refund since your income is below even the dependent standard deduction amount, so you still won't owe any federal taxes!
Thanks for bringing up this complex interaction between Form 8978 and AMT calculations. I've seen this exact scenario several times this year and it's definitely confusing at first glance. What you're experiencing is correct - the software is properly applying the tax law. The Form 8978 adjustment creates a credit that reduces your regular tax liability, but AMT is calculated independently using its own set of rules on Form 6251. When the regular tax (after the 8978 credit) falls below the AMT liability, the AMT kicks in as intended. One thing to double-check: make sure your client doesn't have any AMT credits from prior years that could offset this current AMT liability. Also, if this is a significant ongoing issue for your client, you might want to explore estimated payment strategies for next year to avoid underpayment penalties, since the AMT calculation might not be captured in their usual payment routine. The interaction between partnership audit adjustments and AMT has been a real headache since the centralized partnership audit regime was implemented. At least now the IRS instructions are starting to acknowledge these scenarios more clearly.
This is really helpful context about the partnership audit regime changes! I'm relatively new to dealing with these Form 8978 situations and didn't realize how common this AMT interaction has become. When you mention exploring estimated payment strategies for next year, are you referring to calculating estimates based on the AMT liability rather than just the regular tax? I'm trying to understand how to properly advise clients on avoiding underpayment issues when these adjustments create such unpredictable AMT scenarios.
This is a great discussion on a really tricky area of tax law. I've been dealing with these Form 8978/AMT interactions more frequently lately and wanted to add a few practical tips that have helped me: First, when explaining this to clients, I find it helpful to frame it as the AMT serving as a "safety net" that prevents their total tax from going too low, even with legitimate credits. The Form 8978 credit still provides value - it's just capped by the AMT floor. Second, for planning purposes, I've started including a note in my client files when they receive partnership K-1s to flag potential future AMT issues if there are audit adjustments. This helps set expectations early. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing aspect - if your client is facing a large AMT liability due to the 8978 adjustment, make sure to review their estimated payment requirements for the current year. The AMT can create unexpected underpayment scenarios since most clients don't factor it into their quarterly estimates. Also, if anyone is dealing with multi-year adjustments (where the 8978 affects multiple tax years), the AMT interactions can get even more complex. In those cases, I've found it's worth running scenarios for each affected year to see if there are any planning opportunities around the timing of when to file the adjusted returns.
This is excellent advice, especially about flagging partnership K-1 clients for potential AMT issues! I'm just getting started in tax practice and this Form 8978/AMT interaction has been one of the most confusing areas I've encountered. Your point about the timing of filing adjusted returns is particularly interesting - could you elaborate on what kind of planning opportunities you've seen with multi-year adjustments? I have a client with a 3-year lookback period and I'm trying to understand if there's any strategy around which years to prioritize or if there are any benefits to filing them in a specific sequence. Also, when you mention reviewing estimated payment requirements, are you calculating the safe harbor based on the AMT liability from the adjusted return, or using the original return amounts? I want to make sure I'm advising clients correctly on avoiding underpayment penalties in these situations.
The Turbotax error message is super misleading. Had the same issue last year and almost overpaid my state taxes. The $2,650 is definitely the gross proceeds (total sales amount) NOT your actual gain.
This happened to me too! I got so confused by these messages. For me, I ended up calling my state's department of revenue directly and they confirmed zero was correct since I had no long-term gains. TurboTax really needs to fix this confusing language.
I had this exact same issue when I moved from California to Texas mid-year! The key thing to understand is that TurboTax is showing you gross proceeds (total amount received from sales) in column A, not your actual capital gains or losses. Since you mentioned all your transactions were short-term and resulted in a net loss, you should definitely enter zero in column B. The form is specifically asking about long-term capital gains that are attributable to your new state, and you don't have any. Don't worry about entering zero - the instructions literally say "If none, enter a zero in column b" for this exact situation. The state understands that not all proceeds shown in column A will be taxable by them, especially when you've moved mid-year and have no long-term gains. I made the mistake of overthinking this and almost entered the wrong amount. Once I realized that proceeds β gains, everything made sense. Your federal return already properly accounts for your actual net loss, so you're all good there.
This is such a relief to read! I've been stressing about this for days. The distinction between proceeds and actual gains makes so much sense now. I was getting confused because TurboTax kept showing that $2,650 number and I couldn't figure out how it related to my actual net loss. Thank you for confirming that zero is the right answer - I was worried I'd mess something up by not entering the full amount. It's frustrating that TurboTax doesn't explain this difference more clearly in their interface. Your California to Texas example really helps since that's a similar interstate move situation.
@Aiden RodrΓguez really nailed it here. I went through this exact same confusion last year when I moved from New York to Florida. The TurboTax interface is honestly terrible at explaining the difference between gross proceeds and actual taxable gains. What helped me understand it was thinking of it this way: if you sold $2,650 worth of stock but you originally paid $3,000 for it, your gross proceeds are $2,650 but your actual loss is $350. Column A shows the $2,650 what (you received ,)but since you had no long-term gains attributable to your new state, column B gets zero. The state tax forms are only interested in long-term gains that occurred while you were their resident or that are sourced to their state. Since all your trades were short-term losses, there s'nothing for them to tax. Zero is absolutely the correct answer here.
AstroAce
i messed this up last year and got audited!!! make sure ur using cash accounting not accrual. sounds like u want cash method so u can deduct when u pay not when u get the stuff. my tax guy says most of us freelancers use cash method anyway its easier
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Chloe Martin
β’How bad was the audit? I'm always terrified of making a mistake that will trigger one. Did they just make you pay the difference or were there penalties too?
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Amy Fleming
This is a great question that trips up a lot of freelancers! Since you're filing Schedule C as an independent contractor, you're almost certainly using the cash method of accounting (unless you specifically elected accrual method with the IRS, which is rare for freelancers). With cash method accounting, you deduct business expenses in the tax year you actually make the payment, not when you receive the goods or services. So in your case, if you take the equipment home this weekend but don't pay until January/February 2025, you would claim this $2,800 deduction on your 2025 tax return. Just make sure to keep detailed records of: - The purchase agreement showing the buy-now-pay-later terms - When you actually received the equipment - All payment receipts when you start making payments in 2025 This timing strategy is perfectly legitimate and sounds like it aligns well with your tax planning goals. The key is being consistent with your accounting method and having good documentation to support the timing of your payments.
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Carmen Ortiz
β’This is really helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation with some photography equipment I've been eyeing. One thing I'm curious about - does it matter if the "buy now, pay later" arrangement is through the store's financing or through a third-party service like Klarna or Affirm? I assume the principle is the same since you're still not actually paying until later, but want to make sure there aren't any gotchas with different types of payment arrangements.
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