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This is a great question and you're smart to double-check! As others have mentioned, you don't need to attach your 83(b) election to your 2024 tax return since you already filed it properly within the 30-day window. One additional tip: consider keeping digital copies of your 83(b) election documents in multiple places (cloud storage, email to yourself, etc.) along with your physical copies. I've seen too many founders scramble years later when they need to prove their election was made for capital gains calculations. Also, if your startup issues any tax documents like Form 1099-B when you eventually sell shares, make sure they reflect the correct basis from your 83(b) election. Sometimes companies don't track this properly and report incorrect information to the IRS, which can create headaches during tax season. You're clearly on top of things by asking these questions early - that attention to detail will serve you well as your startup grows!
Great advice about keeping digital copies! I learned this the hard way when I had a computer crash and nearly lost my 83(b) documentation. Now I keep copies in Google Drive, Dropbox, and even emailed them to my personal email account. One thing I'd add - when you do eventually sell shares, it's worth having your tax preparer review the sale beforehand if possible. The interaction between 83(b) elections, AMT, and capital gains can get complex, especially if you're dealing with ISOs or other equity instruments at the same time. Better to plan ahead than scramble during tax season!
Great thread! I went through this exact situation last year and can confirm what others have said - no need to resubmit your 83(b) election with your current tax return since you already filed it properly. One thing I wish I had done earlier was creating a simple spreadsheet to track my equity details. I recorded the grant date, number of shares, exercise price, fair market value at grant, and references to my 83(b) filing. This made it so much easier when my accountant needed the information this tax season. Also, if you're planning to exercise more options or receive additional equity grants in the future, consider whether 83(b) elections make sense for those too. The analysis can be different depending on your company's valuation trajectory and your personal tax situation. Keep those records safe - you'll definitely need them when you eventually have a liquidity event!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm just getting started with equity compensation and the spreadsheet idea is brilliant. Could you share what other columns you included beyond the basics you mentioned? I want to make sure I'm tracking everything I might need later for tax purposes. Also, for future equity grants, how do you decide whether to make an 83(b) election? I assume it depends on whether you expect the company value to increase significantly, but are there other factors to consider?
Don't panic yet! This time of year it could be a simple CP2000 notice if there was a minor discrepancy between what you reported and what was reported to them (like a 1099 that didn't match perfectly). Since you already got your refund, it's likely just a routine notice that needs a response. The fact that it's thin is a good sign - audit packets are usually thick. Keep us posted on what it turns out to be!
I totally get the anxiety! I've been through this exact situation multiple times. Since you already got your refund and it's a thin envelope, it's most likely just a routine notice - maybe they need to verify something minor or there was a small discrepancy they caught after processing. The IRS sends out millions of these notices and most are just informational or require a simple response. Try to breathe easy until you actually see what it says! š¬
Does anyone know if TurboTax handles the calculation of depreciation automatically? I hate math and am terrified of getting this wrong!
Yes, TurboTax will calculate the depreciation for you! You just need to enter the original purchase price of the home, the value when you converted it to a rental, and what percentage is attributable to the building (land isn't depreciable). It's actually pretty straightforward in the rental property section.
Just want to add something that might help - when you're calculating what percentage of your home's value is attributable to the building vs land (for depreciation purposes), you can usually find this info on your county tax assessor's website. They typically break down the assessed value between land and improvements. Also, since this was your primary residence before becoming a rental, make sure you're using the lower of either your original cost basis or the fair market value when you converted it to rental use. This is called the "conversion rule" and can actually save you money if your home decreased in value between when you bought it and when you started renting it out. One last tip - keep really good records of any improvements or repairs you make while it's a rental property. Capital improvements get added to your basis and depreciated, while repairs and maintenance are immediately deductible. The distinction can make a big difference on your taxes!
Big heads up for you: at 16, you might not have to pay self-employment tax at all if this is considered a dependent's unearned income! The rules are different if your parents claim you as a dependent, which I'm guessing they do. You should really have your parents talk to a tax professional about this because it gets complicated with minor's taxes.
That's completely wrong. Self-employment income is EARNED income, not unearned income. Unearned income is things like interest, dividends, capital gains. OP absolutely has to pay self-employment tax on their graphic design work, regardless of age or dependent status. Self-employment tax is for Social Security and Medicare, and it applies to net earnings over $400.
Hey Chloe! I totally get the stress - I was in a similar boat when I started freelancing at 17. Here's what helped me get organized: First, don't panic about missing the September deadline. The penalty for late quarterly payments isn't huge, especially on a first-time basis. Calculate what you owe for Q3 and pay it ASAP along with your Q4 payment due January 15th. For record-keeping, I'd suggest setting up a simple system now: - Open a separate checking account for business income/expenses if possible - Track all business expenses in a spreadsheet (internet %, laptop use, software, etc.) - Set aside 25-30% of each payment for taxes The Schedule SE form is definitely confusing - ignore the farm stuff, that doesn't apply to you. You'll report your net profit from Schedule C (income minus expenses) on the SE form to calculate self-employment tax. Since you can't create an IRS account yet, have a parent help you set up online payments or mail estimated tax payments with Form 1040ES. You're actually ahead of many people by catching this now instead of at tax time! Consider getting help from a tax pro for your first filing - it's worth the peace of mind and you'll learn the process for next year.
Brooklyn Knight
Has anyone tried calling Intuit directly? Maybe they can help? This seems like a massive faillure on their end.
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Owen Devar
ā¢Lol good luck getting through to Intuit customer service. You'll die of old age first.
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Daniel Rivera
ā¢I tried. They said it's not their problem and to contact the settlement administrator. Classic corporate runaround.
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Aisha Jackson
I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! Got my settlement check for $34 last week and it's been rejected at three different places - my credit union, Chase, and even tried at a check cashing place. The check cashing place said something about the routing number not validating properly in their system. It's so frustrating because like you said, it's not a huge amount but it's still money we're owed. I'm starting to wonder if they made the checks hard to cash on purpose. Has anyone had any luck contacting the settlement administrator directly to complain about this?
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