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Javier Cruz

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This is a really common confusion that trips up a lot of people! The key thing to understand is that traditional IRAs (including rollover IRAs) don't track individual investments - they're treated as one big bucket where ALL withdrawals are taxed as ordinary income regardless of performance. When you withdraw from a traditional IRA, you can't claim capital losses like you would in a regular taxable account. That's actually one of the trade-offs of the tax-deferred treatment. The IRS doesn't care if specific stocks lost value - they just see it as you taking money out of a tax-deferred account. If you truly made after-tax contributions and never filed Form 8606, you definitely want to look into that. You might be able to file amended returns to establish your basis properly. As others mentioned, without that documentation, the IRS assumes everything is fully taxable. Also double-check whether those original contributions were actually after-tax or if you took deductions for them in previous years. Sometimes people forget they deducted IRA contributions on their tax returns, which would make them pre-tax money.

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Lilah Brooks

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I think a lot of people (myself included) get confused because we think of IRAs like regular investment accounts where losses can offset gains. The "one big bucket" analogy really clarifies why the IRS treats all withdrawals the same way regardless of individual stock performance. Your point about double-checking whether those original contributions were actually deducted is crucial too. It's easy to forget taking IRA deductions years ago, especially if you were getting refunds. I'm going to dig through my old returns to see if I claimed deductions I forgot about before assuming everything was after-tax money.

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One thing that might help clarify your situation is to request an IRA basis statement from your custodian (the company holding your IRA). They should have records of any after-tax contributions that were properly reported when the money was rolled over or contributed. Also, if you're dealing with a rollover IRA from a previous employer's 401k, check if you have any old 401k statements that show after-tax contributions. Sometimes the 1099-R form from when you did the rollover will indicate if any portion was after-tax money (it would be coded differently). The frustrating reality is that the IRS puts the burden on taxpayers to track and document their after-tax contributions. Without proper Form 8606 filings, you're essentially losing the tax benefit of that after-tax money. But don't give up - many people have successfully filed amended returns to recover this basis, especially if they can document the original after-tax contributions through old pay stubs or 401k statements.

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This is really solid advice about requesting the IRA basis statement! I wish I had known about this earlier. I've been trying to piece together my contribution history from memory and scattered paperwork, but the custodian should have better records. One question though - if the rollover happened years ago and the after-tax portion wasn't properly coded or separated at the time, would the custodian's records still show it correctly? I'm worried that if my financial advisor didn't handle the rollover properly back then, the custodian might not have the right information either. Also, for anyone else reading this - definitely keep better records going forward! This whole situation has taught me to document everything related to retirement accounts, especially any after-tax contributions.

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Grace Lee

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You raise a great point about custodian records potentially being incomplete if the rollover wasn't handled properly initially. Unfortunately, if the after-tax portion wasn't correctly identified during the original rollover process, the custodian's current records might not reflect the true basis. This is where those old 401k statements and pay stubs become really valuable - they can serve as independent documentation of your after-tax contributions even if the rollover paperwork was botched. The IRS generally accepts contemporaneous records like pay stubs showing after-tax 401k contributions as proof for establishing basis on amended returns. Your advice about keeping better records is spot on! I learned this lesson the hard way too. Now I photograph every retirement account statement and keep a simple spreadsheet tracking all contributions and their tax status. It's a small effort that can save thousands in taxes down the road. For anyone dealing with this situation, don't let a messy rollover from years ago discourage you from pursuing your rightful basis. The IRS has procedures for these situations, and with proper documentation, you can often recover the tax benefit of your after-tax contributions even years later.

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Former bank employee here - sometimes there's a delay between when a direct debit is initiated and when it actually posts to your account. The IRS processes payments in batches, and sometimes they don't even attempt to pull the funds until a day or two after the deadline. This happens a lot with government payments. As long as you initiated it before the deadline, the timestamp on their end shows you made the attempt on time. The actual settlement date isn't what determines if you're late or not.

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Paolo Rizzo

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So true! I had this exact situation last year. My payment didn't actually hit my bank account until April 22nd even though I scheduled it on April 15th. I called the IRS in a panic and they confirmed they had record of my scheduled payment before the deadline, so no penalties applied.

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This is such a common concern during tax season! As someone who's dealt with similar anxiety, I want to echo what others have said - you're in good shape. The key principle the IRS follows is that your payment is considered timely if you initiated it before the deadline, regardless of when the actual withdrawal occurs. I had a very similar experience two years ago where my direct debit didn't process until almost a week after the deadline, but because I had scheduled it through my tax software before April 18th, there were no penalties. The IRS systems create a record of when you authorized the payment, and that's what matters for compliance purposes. One thing that might give you additional peace of mind - if you log into your IRS online account in a few days and still see a balance due, don't panic. Their systems often show the balance until the payment fully processes, which can take several business days after it leaves your bank account. The processing delay you're experiencing is completely normal given the volume they handle during filing season. You've done everything correctly by filing early and scheduling the payment before the deadline. Try not to stress about it!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same situation! I keep refreshing my bank account expecting to see the withdrawal, but knowing that the delay is totally normal helps me relax a bit. The part about the IRS online account still showing a balance due even after payment processes is especially helpful - I was worried that meant something went wrong. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!

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Could also be interest they paid you on your escrow account! My lender sent me a 1099 for $27.38 which was apparently the interest earned on my escrow funds. Totally forgot that was a thing, but if you live in a state that requires lenders to pay interest on escrow accounts, that might be it.

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This is a really good point. I'm in Connecticut and lenders are required to pay interest on escrow accounts here. Got a tiny 1099-INT for like $18 last year for this exact reason. Check if your state has this requirement!

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Diego Vargas

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I went through this exact same confusion last year! In my case, the 1099-MISC was for a lender credit I received at closing that reduced my closing costs by $800. I had completely forgotten about it until I dug through all my closing paperwork. The tricky part is that these lender incentives (whether they're cashback, closing cost credits, or promotional bonuses) are considered taxable income by the IRS, even though they feel like discounts to us as borrowers. Your 1098 form for mortgage interest is completely separate and unaffected by this. If you still can't figure out what the 1099-MISC amount corresponds to, I'd recommend checking your Closing Disclosure (CD) form from your purchase. Look for any credits, rebates, or incentives listed there. The amount on your 1099-MISC should match one of those items. Sometimes they break down larger credits into smaller components too, so don't be surprised if the math isn't immediately obvious. When you file your taxes, you'll report this as "Other Income" and yes, you'll owe taxes on it at your regular income tax rate. It's annoying to discover after the fact, but at least now you know for any future home purchases!

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This is super helpful! I'm a first-time homebuyer and had no idea that lender credits could be taxable income. I just closed on my house last month and received a $1200 lender credit to help with closing costs. Should I expect to get a 1099-MISC for that amount next year? I want to start preparing now so I'm not caught off guard like the original poster was. Also, do you know if there's a minimum threshold for when lenders have to issue these forms?

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Finally Got My Refund! Code 846 on 9/25 with $1,441 Interest After 6 Month Freeze & Amended Return

Finally got my refund approved! Been waiting forever and had so many issues with holds and freezes. My transcript shows the whole painful journey in detail. Looking at it now: 971 Notice issued 05-06-2024 $0.00 811 Removed refund freeze 04-29-2024 $0.00 971 Amended tax return or claim 06-10-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 977 Amended return filed 06-10-2024 $0.00 43277-618-03158-4 290 Additional tax assessed 20243805 10-07-2024 $0.00 18254-662-06303-4 846 Refund issued 09-25-2024 776 Interest credited to your account 10-07-2024 -$1,541.90 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data The entire process was exhausting. I had a refund freeze that was finally removed on 04-29-2024 (code 811), followed by a notice issued on 05-06-2024 (code 971). I fired my useless advocate in May which surprisingly helped speed things up. Things started moving when they processed my amended return - you can see the code 971 showing "Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing" and code 977 "Amended return filed" both on 06-10-2024. There was an additional tax assessment (code 290) that processed on 10-07-2024 with cycle code 20243805. The best part is I finally got my 846 code on 09-25-2024 showing my refund was issued! They even credited interest to my account (code 776) of $1,541.90 on 10-07-2024. Wanted to share my transcript updates to help others understand the process and timeline. If you're stuck with freezes and holds like I was, keep pushing forward - it eventually gets resolved! The codes really tell the story of what's happening behind the scenes with your return.

Malik Jackson

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PSA: DO NOT dm random ppl offering help with your taxes!!! Even if they say they dont need personal info, its sketchy af

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THIS! πŸ‘† Always use verified resources or professionals

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Wow, $1,441 in interest is actually pretty decent compensation for the wait! I'm dealing with a similar amended return situation - been stuck since March with various holds. Your timeline gives me hope that things will eventually move. Quick question: did you notice any pattern with the cycle codes? Mine shows 20243605 on my last update and I'm trying to figure out if that means anything for timing.

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CosmicCaptain

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Hey! The cycle codes are really helpful for timing - yours ending in 3605 means you're in the weekly processing cycle that typically runs on Fridays. The 2024 indicates the tax year and 36 represents the 36th week of IRS processing (which would be around early September). Since you've been stuck since March, you might be getting close to some movement! The pattern I noticed with mine is that once they start updating cycle codes regularly, things tend to progress faster. Keep an eye on your transcript for any 971 notices - those usually signal they're actively working on your case.

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StarSeeker

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Does anyone know if this is still an issue with Sprintax for the 2024 tax season? Their website seems to imply they can e-file everything now, but I'm skeptical after reading this thread.

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Ava Martinez

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I just used Sprintax for my 2024 return (filing in 2025) and they STILL don't e-file state returns for non-residents. Their marketing is really misleading - they say "e-file available" but in the fine print it's only for federal. They charged me $140 total for federal and state preparation, but I still had to print and mail my state return. So frustrating.

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This is exactly why I ended up switching to a different approach this year! After getting burned by Sprintax's misleading marketing last season, I did some research and found that most states simply don't have the infrastructure to accept e-filed returns from non-resident aliens - it's not just a Sprintax limitation. What worked for me was using the IRS Free File program for my federal return (since I qualified income-wise) and then going directly to my state's tax website to see if they had any online filing options for non-residents. Some states like New York actually do have basic online forms you can fill out and submit electronically, even as a non-resident. The key is to check your specific state's department of revenue website first before paying for any third-party service. You might be able to do everything yourself for free and avoid the paper mailing hassle entirely. Wish I had known this before spending money on services that can't actually deliver what they promise!

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This is such great advice! I wish I had seen this before filing this year. I'm definitely going to check my state's website directly next time. Quick question - when you used the IRS Free File program, did you have any issues with it recognizing your non-resident alien status? I've heard some of those free programs are designed primarily for regular residents and might not handle Form 1040NR properly. Also, do you remember which states you found that actually allow online filing for non-residents? It would be super helpful to have a list since it seems like this information is really hard to find!

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