MFJ or MFS with a non-resident spouse - tax implications for FICA exemption
Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some advice on my somewhat complicated tax situation. I moved to the US in 2017 on an F1 visa and later switched to H1B in October 2022. For 2022, I filed as 1040NR and paid FICA taxes for those last 3 months of the year when I was on H1B. This year (2024) will be my first time filing taxes as a resident with form 1040, and I have a complication because my wife and I got married in April 2024. She came to the US in 2019 and is still considered a non-resident for tax purposes since she's working on an F1 visa. I have two main questions: 1) If we file Married Filing Jointly (MFJ) for 2024 (which would significantly reduce my tax liability), will my wife still maintain her FICA exemption? Or would filing 1040 as MFJ automatically make her a resident for tax purposes and therefore subject to FICA taxes? 2) If MFJ doesn't work for keeping her FICA exemption, can we still file Married Filing Separately (MFS) where she files 1040NR and keeps her FICA exemption while I file 1040 as a resident? I've run the numbers and the difference is about $3,800 in additional taxes if we can't file jointly, so I'm trying to figure out our best approach. Thanks for any insights!
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Keisha Brown
The rules around residency status for tax purposes can be tricky, especially with mixed immigration statuses like yours. For your first question: If you choose MFJ, your spouse would be treated as a resident for the entire tax year. This is called the "election to treat nonresident alien spouse as resident." When you make this election, your wife would be considered a US resident for tax purposes for the entire year, which means she would lose her FICA exemption that F1 students typically have. So yes, filing MFJ would make her subject to FICA taxes. For your second question: Yes, you can file separately. You would file Form 1040 as a resident, and your wife would file Form 1040NR as a nonresident. This way, she maintains her F1 FICA exemption, but you'll both likely pay more in income tax compared to filing jointly. It really comes down to comparing the FICA savings versus the income tax benefits of filing jointly. Have you calculated how much additional FICA tax she would pay if treated as a resident?
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Yara Khalil
•Thanks for the clear explanation! I haven't calculated the exact FICA tax amount yet. She earns about $28,000 annually from her on-campus job. Would the FICA be around 7.65% of that amount? So roughly $2,142? If that's the case, it might still be worth filing MFJ since my income tax savings would be around $3,800, making us ahead by about $1,650. I just wanted to make sure I understood the rules correctly before making a decision.
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Keisha Brown
•Yes, FICA tax is 7.65% (6.2% for Social Security and 1.45% for Medicare) of her earnings, so your calculation of around $2,142 on $28,000 is correct. Based on your numbers, you're right that you'd still come out ahead by about $1,650 if you file MFJ. Just keep in mind that this election to treat her as a resident means she'll need to report her worldwide income, not just US-source income. If she has significant income from sources outside the US, that could change your calculations.
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Paolo Esposito
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Amina Toure
•Did it actually help with determining the FICA exemption stuff? My wife and I are in almost the exact same situation (I'm on H1B, she's on F1) and I'm wondering if it's worth checking out. Does it tell you which specific IRS forms you need for the election?
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Oliver Weber
•I'm a bit skeptical that a tool can handle these complex residency status issues. How does it know all the exceptions? F students have the 5 calendar year exemption from FICA, but J visa holders have a 2-year exemption. Did it actually understand all these nuances?
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Paolo Esposito
•It absolutely helped with the FICA exemption analysis. It looked at my wife's F1 entry date and calculated exactly when her FICA exemption would expire under the 5-year rule, then showed how making the resident election would impact that timeline. It specifically flagged Form 8840 and Form 1040 with the statement "Taxpayer elects to treat nonresident alien spouse as resident" which needs to be written at the top. For the visa exemption nuances, it actually tracks your specific visa history and applies the appropriate rules. It knew my wife was on F1 and applied the 5-year exemption rule, but when I ran a test for a friend on J status, it correctly applied the 2-year rule. It's specifically designed for expats and visa holders with these complex situations.
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Amina Toure
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FireflyDreams
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•How does this service actually work? I've been calling the IRS international taxpayer line for weeks with no luck. Do they just call on your behalf or something?
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Oliver Weber
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FireflyDreams
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Oliver Weber
I need to apologize for being so skeptical about Claimyr. I decided to try it after continuing to fail getting through to the IRS on my own, and wow - it actually worked exactly as described. I got connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes who specifically handles international taxpayer issues. The agent clarified that for my situation (similar to OP's with a nonresident spouse), I needed to attach a statement to our return explicitly electing to treat my nonresident spouse as a resident. They confirmed this would subject her to FICA taxes but also make her eligible for more tax credits we couldn't get otherwise. The most valuable thing was learning that we needed to continue making this election on every return until we revoke it or my spouse becomes a resident naturally. The agent also explained how foreign tax credits would work with this election, which no online resource had clearly explained.
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Javier Morales
Have you considered the substantial presence test for your wife? Depending on how long she's been in the US on F1, she might actually already be considered a resident alien for tax purposes. For F1 visa holders, the first 5 calendar years in the US are excluded from the substantial presence test. But if she's been here since 2019, 2024 would be her 6th calendar year. At that point, if she meets the substantial presence test (basically in the US for 183 days or more in the current year, or using the weighted formula for 3 years), she might already be considered a resident alien. If that's the case, you would both file as residents regardless, and the MFJ vs MFS question becomes simply about which saves more tax without any FICA implications.
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Yara Khalil
•That's a really interesting point I hadn't considered! She arrived in August 2019, so 2024 would indeed be her 6th calendar year in the US. She has been physically present for more than 183 days each year. Does this mean she would automatically be considered a resident for tax purposes in 2024 and therefore subject to FICA regardless of whether we file MFJ or MFS? If that's the case, then filing MFJ makes the most sense since we'd get the better tax treatment.
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Javier Morales
•Yes, that's exactly right. If 2024 is her 6th calendar year and she meets the substantial presence test, she would be considered a resident alien for tax purposes automatically. This means she would file Form 1040 (not 1040NR) regardless of whether you choose MFJ or MFS. And since she would be a resident alien subject to the same tax rules as US citizens, she would be subject to FICA taxes regardless of your filing status. So in this case, MFJ almost certainly makes more sense since it would give you better tax treatment without any additional FICA implications.
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Emma Anderson
Just a word of caution - if your wife is on F1 and working on campus, her employer might incorrectly continue to treat her as FICA-exempt even after she becomes a resident for tax purposes. Many university payroll systems automatically exempt all F1 students from FICA without checking their 5-year exemption status. If this happens and you know she should be paying FICA (either due to the MFJ election or because she's passed the 5-year substantial presence exemption), you might need to file Form 843 to pay those taxes separately. Otherwise, you could face penalties later if the IRS catches this discrepancy during an audit.
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Yara Khalil
•That's a very helpful warning - I hadn't thought about that potential issue. If her employer incorrectly continues the FICA exemption, would we calculate the amount owed and include it with our tax return? Or is there a separate process for paying FICA taxes that weren't withheld?
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Emma Anderson
•You'd need to calculate the employee portion of FICA taxes (7.65% of her wages) and pay them separately using Form 843. You can't include them with your regular tax return. I recommend talking to her university's payroll department directly to alert them about her change in FICA status. Many universities have procedures for handling this transition, and it's much easier if they correct the withholding going forward rather than you having to settle up at tax time.
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Ava Martinez
This is a great discussion with lots of helpful insights! I wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. If your wife does end up being considered a resident alien (either through the substantial presence test as Javier mentioned, or through the MFJ election), make sure to also consider the impact on any tax treaty benefits she might currently be claiming. Many tax treaties have provisions that exempt students from US tax on certain types of income (like fellowship or scholarship income), but these benefits are typically only available to nonresident aliens. Once she becomes a resident for tax purposes, she may lose access to these treaty benefits. This could be particularly important if she receives any scholarship money beyond tuition and required fees, as that income might become taxable when she transitions to resident status. You'll want to factor this into your overall calculation of whether MFJ makes financial sense. Also, don't forget that if you do make the MFJ election, you'll need to continue making it every year until you formally revoke it or her status changes naturally. It's not a year-by-year choice once you start.
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Ana Rusula
•This is such an important point about treaty benefits that often gets overlooked! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now. My spouse is from India and has been claiming treaty benefits under Article 21 of the US-India tax treaty for her research assistantship income. We were leaning toward making the MFJ election, but now I'm wondering if losing those treaty benefits might offset the tax savings we'd get from filing jointly. Her research assistantship pays about $18,000 annually, and currently that's completely tax-free under the treaty. Do you know if there's a way to calculate exactly how much additional tax we'd owe on that research income if she becomes a resident? And is the treaty benefit loss immediate, or does it phase out over time?
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