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Layla Sanders

MFJ or MFS with a non-resident spouse - Options for mixed residency couple for 2025 taxes

Hey everyone, I need some tax advice for my situation. I moved to the US back in 2020 on an F1 visa and then got my H1B approved in October 2024. I filed as a non-resident (1040NR) for 2024 taxes and paid FICA for those last 3 months of the year. Now for 2025, I'll be filing as a resident with Form 1040 for the first time. My wife came to the US in 2022 and is still considered a non-resident alien for tax purposes since she's on an F1 visa. We got married in May 2025. I'm trying to figure out the best filing strategy: Question 1: If we file Married Filing Jointly (MFJ) for 2025 (which would definitely lower my tax bill), will my wife still be exempt from FICA taxes? Or does filing 1040 MFJ automatically make her a resident for tax purposes and therefore subject to FICA? Question 2: If MFJ isn't the best option, can we file Married Filing Separately (MFS) where I file Form 1040 as a resident while she files 1040NR as a non-resident and maintains her FICA exemption? Thanks in advance for any help!

This is a good question about mixed-status couples! Let me help clarify. For Question 1: Filing MFJ by making the "election" to treat your non-resident spouse as a resident for tax purposes doesn't automatically make her subject to FICA taxes. The FICA exemption is based on her immigration status and visa type, not her tax filing status. Since she's on an F1 visa and presumably working under that status, she would maintain her FICA exemption even if you file jointly. For Question 2: Yes, you could file separately - you with Form 1040 and your wife with Form 1040NR. This is sometimes called a "dual-status" approach. Your wife would definitely maintain her FICA exemption this way, but you'd likely face higher tax rates and lose some tax benefits. Generally, MFJ will provide better overall tax advantages for most couples. The tax savings from filing jointly typically outweigh any potential FICA savings, especially since her FICA exemption should continue regardless.

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But wouldn't making the election to treat the non-resident spouse as a resident for tax purposes impact their FICA status? I thought once you're considered a resident for tax purposes, you lose the special exemptions that come with non-resident status? Also, does the substantial presence test factor into this at all?

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The election to treat a non-resident spouse as a resident is specifically for income tax purposes (Forms 1040), not for FICA taxes. FICA exemptions are determined by visa type and the actual substantial presence in the US, not by the filing election you make. The substantial presence test would eventually make her a resident for tax purposes naturally as she spends more time in the US, but it doesn't immediately override her F1 FICA exemption. F1 students typically remain exempt from FICA for 5 calendar years, regardless of how they file their income taxes.

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Did they help with the actual forms too? I'm in a similar situation but with my husband on J1 visa, and I'm not sure which forms to file or how to make that "election" thing official. Do you just check a box somewhere or is there a separate form?

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Yes, they provide guidance on all the forms needed. For the election, you need to attach a statement to your tax return declaring that you're making the election under Section 6013(g). They gave me a template for that statement and explained where to include it with my return. Regarding security, I was concerned about that too, but they use bank-level encryption, and they don't store your documents permanently after analysis. As for savings, in my case, I saved about $3,200 by filing jointly while my spouse maintained her FICA exemption, compared to filing separately. The difference comes mostly from better tax brackets and qualifying for more credits when filing jointly.

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One important thing nobody mentioned yet - if you do make the election to treat your non-resident spouse as a resident by filing MFJ, remember that you'll need to report your spouse's WORLDWIDE income, not just US income. This includes any foreign accounts, investments, or income from her home country. If she has significant foreign income or assets, you'll also need to look into FBAR filing requirements and potential foreign tax credits. Sometimes this extra complexity can offset the tax savings from filing jointly.

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Thanks for bringing that up! My wife does have a small investment account back in her home country that generates about $1,200 in dividends annually. Would that significantly impact our taxes if we file MFJ? And are there any specific forms we need for that beyond the FBAR?

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The $1,200 in foreign dividends would need to be reported, but the impact should be minimal. You'd include it on Schedule B for interest and dividends. Beyond FBAR (which is required if the total of all foreign accounts exceeds $10,000 at any point during the year), you may need Form 8938 (Statement of Foreign Financial Assets) depending on the total value of foreign assets. You might also want to file Form 1116 for Foreign Tax Credit if she paid any taxes on those dividends in her home country - this would help avoid double taxation.

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Does anyone know if state tax filing follows the same rules? I'm in California with a similar situation (I'm resident, spouse is non-resident on F1) and I'm not sure if making the federal election to file jointly means we have to file jointly for state too?

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Most states follow federal filing status, but California is actually one of the exceptions in certain cases. If one spouse is a non-resident and has no California income, you might be able to file as married filing separately for CA even if you file jointly federally. Check out CA Form 540NR instructions - there's a specific section for this situation. You might save on state taxes this way while still getting federal benefits of MFJ.

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Thanks for the tip about Form 540NR! I'll definitely look into that. Would make a huge difference if we can optimize both federal and state filings separately.

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Great discussion everyone! I wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this exact situation last year. One thing to keep in mind is timing - since you got married in May 2025, you'll be considered married for the entire tax year for filing purposes. This means you can choose between MFJ or MFS for your 2025 return. I'd also suggest documenting everything carefully. When I made the Section 6013(g) election, I kept copies of all the paperwork including the statement attached to our return, my wife's I-94, and her I-20 showing her F1 status. The IRS never questioned it, but having that documentation ready gave me peace of mind. Another consideration: if your wife plans to change visa status in the future (like applying for a green card), filing jointly and making the election won't negatively impact that process. In fact, it can sometimes help establish the legitimacy of your marriage for immigration purposes. The tax savings from MFJ are usually substantial enough to outweigh the added complexity of reporting worldwide income, especially if her foreign income is minimal like most F1 students.

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This is really helpful context, thanks @Ezra Bates! I'm curious about the documentation part you mentioned. When you attached the Section 6013(g) election statement to your return, did you file it with your original return or did you have to amend? And did you need to include any specific language in the statement beyond just declaring the election? Also, regarding the timing aspect - since @Layla Sanders mentioned they got married in May 2025, would there be any advantage to filing separately for part of the year and then jointly for the remainder, or is it really an all-or-nothing choice for the entire tax year?

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