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Mateo Gonzalez

Spouse has almost zero federal income tax withheld on paychecks

I'm losing my mind trying to fix my spouse's federal withholding on their paychecks. Since they changed the W-4 form back in 2020, I've been completely confused about how to fill it out properly to get the right amount withheld. Last year, I noticed the withholding was way too low, so I had my spouse complete a new W-4. I even used the IRS tax withholding calculator on their website to try and get it right. I thought we had solved the problem! Well, tax season is here again and I just looked at their W-2. Once again, barely anything was withheld for federal income tax. My spouse earned around $40,000 this year, but only had $212 in federal income tax withheld. That can't be right! I was so frustrated I actually paid to speak with a tax professional. I explained the situation - how much my spouse earned and how little was withheld - and they agreed something seemed seriously wrong. I'm at my wits' end and need to get this fixed for this year. Any advice on how to properly fill out the W-4 to get the right amount withheld would be greatly appreciated!

Nia Williams

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The W-4 form changes from 2020 definitely made things more confusing for a lot of people! Based on your spouse's income of $40,000 with only $212 withheld, something is definitely off with the W-4 setup. The most common mistake I see is that people miss checking the box in Step 2(c) for "Multiple Jobs or Spouse Works" when both spouses are employed. If this box isn't checked, the system assumes this is the only income in the household and applies the full standard deduction to this job, resulting in little to no withholding. Another possibility is that your spouse might have filled out Step 3 (for claiming dependents or other credits) with an amount that's too high, which would reduce the withholding. To fix this, I'd recommend completing a new W-4 form with these steps: 1. Check the box in Step 2(c) for multiple jobs 2. Leave Step 3 blank unless you have qualifying children 3. If you want extra withholding to catch up, add an additional amount in Step 4(c) The IRS calculator is helpful, but sometimes people miss entering all their information correctly.

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Luca Ricci

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If both spouses work, isn't it better to use the worksheet or the calculator instead of just checking the box in 2c? I heard checking the box can sometimes take out too much money.

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Nia Williams

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You're absolutely right that using the worksheet or the calculator can give you a more precise withholding amount. Checking the box in 2(c) is a simplified approach that sometimes withholds a bit more than necessary, essentially giving you a larger refund at tax time. If you prefer more accurate withholding throughout the year, the better approach is to use the IRS withholding calculator online and follow its specific recommendations, which usually involves putting an additional amount in Step 4(c) instead of checking the box. This requires both spouses to coordinate their W-4 forms.

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Does this work for self-employed people too? My wife is W-2 but I do freelance work, and figuring out the right withholding/estimated payments is a nightmare.

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Yuki Watanabe

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. How does it know all the details about your tax situation? Does it consider things like mortgage interest and other deductions that might affect how much you should withhold?

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Yes, it absolutely works for self-employment situations! It has a specific section for handling mixed income households where one person has W-2 income and another has self-employment. It helps calculate the right estimated tax payments for the freelance portion while adjusting the W-2 withholding appropriately. For your question about deductions - yes, that's actually one of the best features. You can enter all your expected deductions like mortgage interest, charitable contributions, and other itemized deductions. The tool factors these in when calculating the optimal withholding strategy. It even lets you adjust for mid-year changes like buying a house or having a child, which traditional withholding calculators often miss.

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Zoe Papadakis

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Have you considered just doing married filing separately? My wife and I had a similar issue where her job wasn't withholding enough, and we kept ending up owing a ton at tax time. We switched to filing separately and now her withholding is correct since it's calculated just on her income.

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We've actually thought about filing separately, but I read that you lose some tax benefits that way. Does filing separately affect your total tax bill? Did you end up paying more overall or just getting the withholding right?

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Zoe Papadakis

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Filing separately usually results in a higher total tax bill for most couples. You lose several tax benefits like student loan interest deductions, some education credits, and the full IRA contribution deduction. In our case, we did pay about $800 more in total taxes by filing separately. However, we decided the psychological benefit of having the correct withholding throughout the year was worth it. My wife also qualifies for some income-based student loan repayment programs that look at her income alone when we file separately, so that offset the tax disadvantage. It's really a case-by-case decision based on your specific situation and whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

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ThunderBolt7

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i had same issue with hubby last yr. our tax guy said easiest fix is just put "SINGLE" on w4 even tho ur married. been doing that for 2 years now and withholding is perfect!!! they take out more but no surprise tax bill in april!!

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Jamal Edwards

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That's actually a really smart trick. Do you still file jointly at tax time? Does anyone at payroll or HR ever question why you're putting "single" on the W-4?

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Edwards Hugo

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I feel your pain - I went through the exact same nightmare with my spouse's withholding! The 2020 W-4 changes really threw everyone for a loop. Here's what finally worked for us after two years of getting it wrong: Don't rely solely on the IRS calculator - it's helpful but can miss nuances. Instead, look at your previous year's tax return and calculate roughly what your tax liability should be for this year based on your expected income. For a $40,000 salary with only $212 withheld, your spouse's W-4 is definitely treating them as if they have no other household income. Make sure you check the "Multiple Jobs or Spouse Works" box in Step 2(c), but more importantly, use the worksheet that comes with the W-4 form to calculate the additional amount needed in Step 4(c). As a quick fix for this year, I'd recommend having your spouse add at least $100-150 per paycheck in additional withholding on line 4(c) to catch up. You can always adjust it down later if it's too much. Better to get a refund than owe a huge amount plus penalties! The key is coordination - both spouses need to fill out their W-4s together, not separately.

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