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Just want to add another perspective - if you're not comfortable with how CashApp Tax is handling your retirement distributions, it might be worth paying for a more robust program just for this year. I've used both TurboTax and H&R Block, and they walk you through retirement distributions much more thoroughly with specific questions that help ensure accuracy. Even if it costs a bit more, getting it right is worth it. Retirement distribution mistakes can be expensive if the IRS thinks you took taxable distributions that you didn't report properly.
This is good advice. Made this mistake once with a "free" tax program and ended up paying penalties because it didn't correctly handle my early distribution exception. The $50 I "saved" cost me $300 in the end!
Mason, I went through something very similar last year with multiple Roth IRA distributions and CashApp Tax. Here's what I learned that might help: The blank Box 2a on your first two 1099-Rs is actually good news - it means those distributions are likely just your original contributions coming back to you tax-free. Since you mentioned opening these accounts "a few years back," you're probably well within your contribution amounts. For the third one with $390 in Box 2a, that's showing taxable earnings. The code T confirms it's an early distribution that might be subject to penalties. One thing to watch out for with CashApp Tax - when it asks for your "basis" in the Roth IRA, that's the total of all contributions you've made over the years (not including any growth). You'll need this number to complete Form 8606 correctly. If you're feeling overwhelmed, don't be afraid to switch to a more comprehensive tax program for this year. Sometimes the peace of mind is worth the extra cost, especially when dealing with retirement accounts where mistakes can be expensive. Keep all your 1099-R forms and any records showing when you made contributions to these accounts - you'll need them if the IRS ever has questions.
Heads up from someone who did this wrong! My wife and I started an S-Corp for our graphic design biz in 2018 and only paid ourselves tiny salaries ($15k each) while taking hefty distributions the first two years. Got audited in 2021 and the IRS reclassified most of our distributions as salary. Had to pay back employment taxes plus penalties. Ouch! Now we use the 60/40 rule - roughly 60% salary to 40% distributions, and document everything like crazy. Our accountant says there's no magic formula but reasonable should mean reasonable for your industry and workload.
That sounds brutal! Did you end up owing a lot? I'm in a similar situation and worried I've been doing it wrong.
As a newer S-Corp owner myself, I've found that documentation is absolutely key. We started conservative with salaries too, but what helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking our monthly revenue, expenses, and profit margins. Every time we adjust our salaries, we document the business justification. One thing that's been helpful is looking at job postings for similar roles in our area to establish benchmarks. For tattoo shops specifically, you might look at what experienced tattoo artists or shop managers earn locally. Since you're doing both artistic work AND business management, your reasonable compensation should reflect both roles. The 30-40% of profits rule mentioned earlier is solid, but don't stress too much about hitting exact ratios every month when you're still growing. The IRS understands that new businesses have variable income. Just make sure whatever you're paying yourselves is defensible based on what you'd pay someone else to do your jobs, and keep good records of how you determined those amounts.
Does anyone know if we're supposed to attach the K-3 to our personal tax return or is it just for reference? My tax software is confusing me about this.
You don't need to attach the K-3 to your personal return. It's an informational form that the partnership provides to give you details about your share of the partnership's international activities. You use the information to complete various parts of your personal return (like Form 1116 for foreign tax credits), but the K-3 itself isn't filed with your 1040.
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like USO definitely won't qualify for the K-3 waiver. I'm in a similar situation with commodity investments and was hoping to avoid the extra complexity, but it makes sense that anything dealing with global markets would have foreign activity. One question though - if USO sends out the K-3, do we need to report everything on it or just the parts that actually apply to our tax situation? Some of the international stuff might not be relevant to my particular circumstances, but I don't want to miss anything important that could trigger an audit later. Also, does anyone know roughly when these K-3s typically get sent out? I'm trying to plan my tax filing timeline and don't want to file early only to get the K-3 later and have to amend.
Good questions! Regarding what to report from the K-3 - you need to report all applicable items that flow through to your personal return, but not everything on the K-3 will necessarily apply to you. The K-3 shows your proportionate share of the partnership's foreign activities, but some sections might be zero or not relevant to your specific tax situation. For timing, most partnerships including USO typically send K-3s along with the K-1s, which usually arrive by mid-March (partnerships have until March 15 to file and provide schedules to partners). I'd definitely wait until you receive all partnership documents before filing, especially since the K-3 information can affect multiple parts of your return like foreign tax credits or PFIC reporting. The key is to review each section of the K-3 and see if it requires corresponding entries on your 1040 or related forms. When in doubt, it's better to include the information rather than risk an IRS notice later asking why certain foreign items weren't reported.
This is a really complex area that trips up a lot of S-corp owners! Based on what you've described, here are some key points to help clarify: 1. **APIC withdrawals are distributions**: When you take back part of your APIC contribution, it's treated as a distribution for tax purposes, even though you're "just taking back what you put in." This goes on Schedule K-1 with Code D. 2. **Your basis calculation looks correct**: With $54k APIC + $1,350 profits - $27k distribution = $28,350 remaining basis. No capital gains tax since you didn't exceed your total basis. 3. **APIC reporting**: APIC doesn't appear as a line item on Form 1120-S itself - it shows up on Schedule L (balance sheet) as part of paid-in capital. Many preparers attach a supplemental statement detailing APIC changes. 4. **M-2 vs basis**: M-2 tracks the Accumulated Adjustments Account (AAA), which can go negative, but that's separate from your personal basis calculation on Form 7203. 5. **Bank vs basis**: Your bank account balance and tax basis will almost never match - they're completely different concepts. The key thing is proper documentation and consistent treatment. Form 7203 was specifically created to help with these basis tracking issues that were causing so many problems. Make sure you're maintaining good records of all contributions, distributions, income, and losses to support your basis calculations.
This is exactly the comprehensive breakdown I needed! Thank you so much for clarifying that my basis calculation is correct - I was really worried I was missing something fundamental. One follow-up question: you mentioned that many preparers attach a supplemental statement for APIC changes. Is this required, or just best practice? And if it's recommended, what should that statement typically include? I want to make sure I'm documenting everything properly to avoid any issues down the road. Also, regarding Form 7203 - since this is relatively new, are there any common mistakes people make when filling it out that I should watch out for? I want to make sure I'm tracking my basis correctly going forward.
Great question about Form 7203! As someone who's helped several S-corp clients navigate this relatively new form, here are the most common mistakes I see: **Common Form 7203 Mistakes:** 1. **Starting basis errors**: Many people only include their initial stock purchase but forget to add APIC contributions made in the same or prior years. 2. **Mixing stock and debt basis**: Loans to the corporation create debt basis, which is tracked separately from stock basis on the form. 3. **Income/loss timing**: Make sure you're using the correct year's K-1 amounts - income increases basis, losses decrease it. 4. **Distribution ordering**: Distributions first reduce stock basis to zero before affecting debt basis. **Regarding supplemental APIC statements:** It's not strictly required by law, but it's definitely best practice and many preparers do it to create a clear audit trail. The statement should include: - Beginning APIC balance - Additional contributions during the year (with dates) - Any withdrawals/returns of APIC (with dates) - Ending APIC balance - Brief description of each transaction This documentation becomes crucial if the IRS ever questions your basis calculations. Since S-corp basis issues are a hot audit topic right now, having clean documentation can save you a lot of headaches later. The fact that you're asking these questions shows you're thinking about this correctly. Many S-corp owners don't realize the importance of proper basis tracking until it's too late!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to create that supplemental APIC statement - better to have too much documentation than not enough, especially with the IRS focusing more on S-corp compliance lately. Your point about starting basis errors really resonates with me. I think a lot of people (myself included initially) think of basis as just their original investment, but it's actually much more comprehensive. The fact that APIC contributions increase your basis is crucial for understanding how much you can distribute without tax consequences. One thing I'm still wrapping my head around - when you mention "distribution ordering" where stock basis gets reduced to zero before debt basis is affected, does this mean if I have both stock basis from APIC and debt basis from loans I made to the company, and I take a large distribution, it would first exhaust all my stock basis before touching the debt basis? And would this affect how I report things on the K-1 or is it just an internal calculation for basis tracking? Also, do you happen to know if there are any good resources or guides specifically for Form 7203? Since it's relatively new, I'm finding it hard to locate comprehensive guidance beyond the basic IRS instructions.
Ravi Sharma
Anyone know if you can e-file when claiming a Section 1341 credit? Last year I had a similar situation and TurboTax kept giving me an error when I tried to e-file with the claim of right credit.
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NebulaNomad
ā¢You can e-file with a Section 1341 claim, but some software doesn't support it properly. I used H&R Block Premium last year for a claim of right situation and was able to e-file successfully. There's a specific place to enter it as "other credits" and you need to write "IRC 1341" in the description field.
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Amara Nnamani
I went through something very similar with duplicate EE bonds last year! One thing to watch out for - make sure you have all the documentation from Treasury showing the erroneous issuance before you file. The IRS may want to see proof that the second bond was issued in error and that you're required to repay the interest. Also, since you're dealing with $4,100, you'll definitely want to calculate both the deduction and credit methods when you file your 2025 return. In my case, the credit ended up saving me about $200 more than the deduction would have, but it depends on your tax brackets in both years. Keep all your correspondence with Treasury - you'll need it to support your Section 1341 claim. The IRS is pretty strict about having proper documentation for claim of right situations.
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Edwards Hugo
ā¢This is really helpful advice about keeping documentation! I'm curious - when you calculated both methods, did you do it manually or did you find tax software that could handle it? I'm already dreading trying to figure out the credit calculation since it sounds pretty complex with having to calculate your tax twice. Also, did Treasury send you any specific forms or letters acknowledging the error, or was it just regular correspondence? I want to make sure I'm keeping the right paperwork for when I file next year.
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