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NebulaKnight

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Does anyone know if you can split the expenses? Like could I put $3000 in the FSA and claim $3000 for the tax credit (with my $12000 total daycare cost)? Would that be better than maxing out the FSA first?

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Yes, you can split your expenses that way! Whether it's better depends on your tax bracket. The FSA gives you savings at your marginal tax rate (plus FICA taxes of 7.65%). So if you're in the 22% federal bracket, you save about 29.65% on money put in the FSA. The Dependent Care Credit for one child maxes at $3000 of expenses, and the percentage varies from 20-35% based on income. If your income puts you at the 20% credit rate, you'd be better off putting more in the FSA. If you qualify for a higher percentage, you might be better off with the strategy you suggested.

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Ezra Beard

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@Andre Moreau - I was in almost the exact same situation last year! With one child and $12k in daycare costs, here's what I learned: Since you have one child, the dependent care tax credit is limited to $3,000 in expenses. If you put the full $5,000 in your FSA, you've already exceeded that $3,000 limit, so you won't be able to claim any tax credit. Here's what might work better for you: Put $3,000 in the FSA and keep $3,000 available for the tax credit. Whether this is optimal depends on your income level. The FSA saves you money at your marginal tax rate plus FICA (about 29.65% if you're in the 22% bracket), while the dependent care credit ranges from 20-35% based on income. If you're at higher income levels, the FSA might give you better savings. If you're at lower income levels, the credit percentage could be higher than your tax savings from the FSA. Given that you mentioned your husband makes more than you and you've had IRS issues before, I'd definitely recommend running the numbers both ways or consulting with a tax professional to make sure you're maximizing your benefit without any complications!

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This is really helpful breakdown! As someone new to navigating both FSAs and tax credits, I'm wondering - is there an easy way to calculate which split would be most beneficial before making the FSA election? I don't want to lock myself into the wrong contribution amount and then realize I made a mistake when tax time comes around. Also, @Andre Moreau mentioned having had IRS issues before - would using both benefits in the same year potentially trigger any extra scrutiny or audits?

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I know this is slightly off topic from the exemption card, but has anyone else noticed that some online retailers don't charge sales tax even when they're supposed to? Not complaining obviously, but wondering if this is legal or if they're just breaking the rules?

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That's actually a great question. Following the Supreme Court's South Dakota v. Wayfair decision in 2018, states can require online sellers to collect sales tax even without physical presence in the state. However, many states have small seller exemptions - if a business has fewer than a certain number of transactions or sales below a threshold amount in that state, they may not be required to collect tax. But if you're seeing larger retailers not collecting tax, they might be non-compliant. Keep in mind that even if they don't collect it, technically you're supposed to report and pay use tax on those purchases when you file your state tax return (though very few people actually do this). It's definitely a gray area that's still evolving in enforcement.

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Just to add some context to all the great information here - I work in state tax compliance and wanted to clarify a few things about sales tax exemptions. The diplomatic cards mentioned earlier are indeed real and legitimate, but they're very specific to foreign diplomatic personnel under international treaties. For regular citizens, the most common legitimate exemptions are actually medical-related. Many states offer sales tax exemptions on prescription medications, medical devices, and sometimes even over-the-counter items if you have certain qualifying conditions. Some states also have exemptions for clothing under a certain dollar amount or during specific tax-free weekends. If you're curious about what exemptions you might qualify for, your state's Department of Revenue website usually has a comprehensive list. It's much more limited than what diplomats get, but there are legitimate ways to reduce your tax burden without needing special cards!

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Jay Lincoln

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea about the medical exemptions. Do you know if there's a standard list of qualifying medical conditions across states, or does each state set their own rules? I have diabetes and wondering if my test strips and supplies might qualify for exemptions that I've been missing out on.

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Can I deduct my non-profit Healthshare expenses on my taxes?

Our family has been on a non-profit Healthshare plan for a while now, and they've actually been pretty good about keeping their promises. But this year has been rough health-wise. We've dealt with multiple ER visits, managing a new chronic condition with tons of endocrinologist appointments and tests, a pregnancy loss, and now another pregnancy. Our medical bills hit around $38k total this year. The Healthshare did come through for us. I paid smaller bills and what they call "personal responsibility amounts" (similar to deductibles) for larger issues. We ended up paying about $9k out-of-pocket, with the Healthshare covering about $29k. For most of that $29k, I paid the providers directly first (keeping all bills and receipts) and got reimbursed later. About 25% of the time, they paid providers directly. On top of all that, we pay around $8k yearly in monthly contributions (which work like premiums). I understand completely that my monthly contributions AREN'T tax deductible like traditional health insurance premiums would be. My question is: Can I deduct the medical expenses that were reimbursed by our non-profit Healthshare? It seems like this might be allowed since Healthshare premiums don't get the tax-deductible advantage of regular insurance? From what I can tell, Healthshares aren't really recognized the same way under tax law. But I know medical bills paid by regular insurance aren't eligible for itemized deductions, so I'm confused about what's allowed here. We're married filing jointly, expecting around $170k income. We have other potential deductions besides health costs (vehicle property taxes, mileage for medical appointments, charitable donations). We've always taken the standard deduction because our itemized deductions never exceeded it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Oliver Cheng

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Has anyone here actually succeeded in itemizing with Healthshare expenses? We're on Samaritan and paying about $750/month in shares plus had about $5k in expenses that weren't shared this year. But we're still well below the standard deduction threshold for married filing jointly.

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Taylor To

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We managed to do it last year, but only because we had a perfect storm of deductible expenses. Between our Liberty Healthshare costs, massive property taxes, mortgage interest on our new house, and some large charitable donations, we cleared the standard deduction by about $3k. Saved us around $600 in taxes. This year we'll probably be back to taking the standard deduction though.

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Oliver Cheng

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Thanks for sharing your experience. It's helpful to know it's possible but requires a lot of other deductions too. I think we'll stick with the standard deduction based on our situation, but I'll keep better records this year just in case we get close.

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Based on my experience with Healthshares and tax law, I want to clarify a few key points that might help you navigate this situation: First, you're correct that your monthly Healthshare contributions ($8k annually) are NOT the same as traditional insurance premiums for tax purposes. However, they DO count as qualifying medical expenses when calculating your itemized deductions, subject to the 7.5% AGI threshold. The $9k you paid out-of-pocket that wasn't reimbursed is also deductible as medical expenses. So you'd have $17k in potential medical deductions ($8k contributions + $9k out-of-pocket), which exceeds your 7.5% threshold of approximately $12,750 (based on $170k income). However, the reimbursed $29k is NOT deductible, regardless of whether you paid providers first and got reimbursed later. The IRS looks at the final economic burden - if you were ultimately made whole through reimbursement, you can't deduct those expenses. Given your income level and the amounts involved, you'd need to carefully calculate whether itemizing would benefit you over the $27,700 standard deduction for married filing jointly. Include your medical expenses above the threshold, state/local taxes (up to $10k), mortgage interest, and charitable donations to see if itemizing makes sense. Keep detailed records of everything, including dates, amounts, and proof of payment/reimbursement. Healthshare arrangements can sometimes trigger additional IRS scrutiny, so documentation is crucial.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was hoping for! Your explanation really helps clarify the distinction between what counts as medical expenses versus what's actually deductible after reimbursements. One thing I'm still wondering about - you mentioned that Healthshare arrangements can trigger additional IRS scrutiny. Is there anything specific we should be prepared for if we do end up itemizing? Should we be keeping any particular types of documentation beyond the usual receipts and statements? Also, with our other potential deductions (property taxes, charitable giving, etc.), we might actually get close to that $27,700 threshold. It sounds like it's worth running the numbers both ways to see which option saves us more money.

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Have you called the Treasury Offset Program directly? Sometimes they have more info than the state does. Their number is 800-304-3107. You'll need your ex's SSN and your case number.

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I went through this exact same situation in Massachusetts last year! The waiting is absolutely brutal, especially when you're counting on that money. Here's what I learned from my experience: The 4-8 week timeline is pretty accurate, but it can stretch longer during tax season. Mine took about 7 weeks total. What really helped me was keeping a log of every call I made and who I spoke with - it made follow-up calls way more productive. One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you should ask the MA DOR for the "offset notification letter" - this shows the exact amount that was sent from the federal government and when. If there's a discrepancy between what you expect and what you receive, this letter is crucial. Also, if you haven't already, make sure your address is current with both the IRS and MA DOR. I've seen cases where payments get delayed because they're sent to old addresses. The waiting sucks but hang in there - the money will come through!

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Alice Pierce

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I never thought about asking for the offset notification letter - that's brilliant. I'm definitely going to request that when I call tomorrow. The address thing is a good point too, I moved about 6 months ago and want to make sure everything is updated. It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this process in MA and got their money eventually!

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Don't forget to check with your dental insurance first! Some plans cover Invisalign partially if it's medically necessary. Mine covered about 25% of the cost because my dentist documented that I had TMJ issues. That reduced the amount I needed to try claiming on taxes.

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Wait, dental insurance actually covered Invisalign?? Mine told me flat out they don't cover any "cosmetic orthodontics" no matter what. Did you have to do anything special to get them to approve it?

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Great question! I went through this exact situation last year with my Invisalign treatment. The key is getting proper documentation from your orthodontist that clearly states the treatment is for medical necessity - jaw pain, bite correction, TMJ issues, etc. A few important points to consider: 1. **Medical expense deduction threshold**: You'll need total medical expenses exceeding 7.5% of your AGI to itemize and deduct. This includes ALL medical costs - insurance premiums, prescriptions, doctor visits, etc. 2. **HSA/FSA route**: This is often better than the tax deduction route since you use pre-tax dollars without meeting any threshold. Most FSA administrators will approve orthodontic work if you have documentation of medical necessity. 3. **Documentation is key**: Ask your orthodontist for a letter specifically stating that the Invisalign is being prescribed to treat your bite and alignment issues causing jaw pain. Most orthodontists are very familiar with providing this type of documentation. 4. **Track everything**: Keep receipts for the treatment cost, travel to appointments, and any related expenses. Given your situation with documented jaw pain and bite issues, you should definitely qualify for either the medical expense deduction (if you meet the threshold) or FSA reimbursement if your employer offers one. The medical necessity aspect is clearly established in your case.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation where I need Invisalign for bite issues but wasn't sure about the tax implications. One question - if I use an FSA for part of the cost but still have out-of-pocket expenses remaining, can I still claim those leftover costs as a medical deduction on my taxes? Or does using FSA funds disqualify me from also claiming the tax deduction for the same treatment?

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Cass Green

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Great question! You can absolutely claim the remaining out-of-pocket costs as a medical deduction even after using FSA funds. The IRS only prohibits "double-dipping" - meaning you can't deduct the same dollar that was already paid with pre-tax FSA money. So if your total Invisalign cost is $5,800 and you use $2,750 from your FSA, you can potentially deduct the remaining $3,050 (assuming you meet that 7.5% AGI threshold and have enough total medical expenses). Just make sure to keep clear records showing which portion was paid with FSA versus out-of-pocket. This actually works out well since many people can't fit their entire orthodontic treatment cost into their annual FSA contribution limit anyway. You get the best of both worlds - immediate tax savings on the FSA portion and potential deduction on the remainder.

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