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StarStrider

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Your friend might be what the IRS calls a "ghost taxpayer" but it's definitely not sustainable! A few thoughts on how this might have happened: 1) If they've worked as an independent contractor and nobody issued 1099s, the IRS might not have automatic records of their income 2) For the mortgage, they're probably not on the loan at all - only their partner with the W2 qualified 3) For hospital bills, if they paid cash or had insurance through a partner/employer without being the primary policyholder, it wouldn't trigger tax flags 4) For the child, the other parent may be claiming them on their taxes The most concerning part is retirement. Without tax records, they won't have Social Security credits for those working years. They're effectively planning to retire with potentially zero Social Security benefits. They need to fix this ASAP, starting with consulting a tax attorney who specializes in non-filer cases.

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Exactly this. I work in financial planning and see this occasionally. The retirement aspect is what will really hurt them in the long run. If they're in their 40s they still have time to accumulate ~20 years of Social Security credits, but they've lost a significant portion of their potential benefits already.

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This situation is sadly more common than you'd think, especially among people who've worked in cash-heavy industries. Your friend has been incredibly lucky to avoid detection for this long, but they're sitting on a ticking time bomb. Here's what probably happened: If they've consistently worked jobs that pay cash or as unreported independent contractors, there may be no paper trail for the IRS to follow. No W-2s, no 1099s filed by employers means no automatic red flags in the system. But here's the reality check - they need to address this immediately. Not just because of potential penalties, but because they're destroying their financial future. Every year they don't file is a year of lost Social Security credits. At 40-something, they've already forfeited 20+ years of retirement benefits. If they wait until retirement to deal with this, they'll be facing poverty in their golden years. The good news is that voluntary disclosure programs exist specifically for situations like this. A qualified tax professional can help them file the necessary back returns (usually 6 years minimum) and negotiate with the IRS. The penalties for voluntary disclosure are typically much more manageable than if the IRS discovers them first. Your friend needs to stop living in denial and get professional help NOW. Every day they wait makes the situation worse, both financially and legally.

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Maya Diaz

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Has anyone here dealt with a situation where you accidentally put interest in the wrong category when filing? I did that last year and got a notice from the IRS. Just wondering if it's worth fighting about or just paying the difference.

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Tami Morgan

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I had something similar happen. I reported some money market interest as tax-exempt when it wasn't. I just filed an amended return with Form 1040X and paid the difference. Much easier than fighting with the IRS and risking penalties.

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Luca Marino

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I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now! I had about $52k in interest income from CDs and high-yield savings accounts, and with my $340k salary, it's getting hammered at what feels like 40% too. One thing I learned from my tax preparer is that timing matters for future years. If you know you're going to have a lot of interest income, you might want to make estimated quarterly payments to avoid a huge shock at filing time. Also, she suggested looking into I Bonds (Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities) since they have some tax advantages - you can defer the tax on the interest until you cash them out, and they're exempt from state taxes. It's frustrating because you feel like you're being penalized for saving money, but apparently this is just how progressive taxation works when you're in the higher brackets. Still stings though!

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Nathan Kim

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Thanks for mentioning I Bonds! I hadn't heard of those before. How much can you actually invest in them per year? And do you know if there are any other restrictions or downsides to consider? The tax deferral aspect sounds really appealing given our similar income situations. Also, you're totally right about the quarterly payments - I definitely got hit with an underpayment penalty this year on top of everything else. Learning the hard way that the IRS expects you to pay as you go when you have significant non-wage income!

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Have you tried calling the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service? On March 12th, I had a similar situation with a 570 code and was facing a time-sensitive financial deadline. I reached out to TAS on March 15th, explained my hardship situation (which educational expenses can qualify for), and they were able to expedite the review of my account. By March 22nd, my transcript updated with a release code. It's worth a shot if your tuition deadline is truly imminent and you can demonstrate financial hardship.

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Darcy Moore

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I completely understand your frustration with the timing - having a tuition deadline looming while waiting for a 570 code to resolve is incredibly stressful. Based on what I've seen in this community, cycle 05 codes do typically update on Fridays, but here's what you should know: the 570 code with a date from last Friday likely means that's when the hold was placed, not when it will be resolved. Most 570 holds resolve within 2-3 weeks, so you're still well within the normal timeframe. While you're waiting, I'd recommend checking if your school offers any grace period for tuition payments or emergency financial aid options. Also, look for any 971 code on your transcript - if it's there, a letter is coming that will explain exactly what the IRS needs from you. Stay strong, and try not to check more than once a day to preserve your sanity!

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This is such solid advice! I'm dealing with my first 570 code and the uncertainty has been eating at me. The once-a-day checking rule is something I definitely need to follow - I've been obsessively refreshing the transcript page multiple times per day and it's driving me crazy. Quick question though - when you mention looking for a 971 code, does that always appear at the same time as the 570, or could it show up later? And has anyone here successfully gotten their school to work with them on payment deadlines while waiting for IRS processing?

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Amy Fleming

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Be careful with some of the advice here! I had a rental vacant for 9 months last year and my accountant said I could only deduct a percentage of expenses based on the occupied vs vacant months (8/12 of annual expenses). Something about "not actively engaged in business" during those months. Anyone else been told this?

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Alice Pierce

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Your accountant is incorrect. I've been a property manager for 15 years and have dealt with many owners' tax situations. The IRS considers you "in business" as long as you're holding the property for income production and actively trying to rent it. Vacancies are an ordinary and necessary part of the rental business. All ordinary expenses during vacancy periods are fully deductible.

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Amina Diop

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I went through this exact same situation with my rental duplex last year! Had one unit vacant for 5 months and was worried about deducting expenses. After doing a lot of research and talking to my CPA, I can confirm that HOA dues are absolutely deductible during vacancy periods as long as you're actively marketing the property for rent. The key is documentation - I kept a detailed log of all my rental activities during the vacancy: every Zillow listing renewal, Craigslist post, showing appointment, and even declined applications. I also took photos of any maintenance or improvements I did to make the property more rentable. One tip that helped me: I created a simple spreadsheet tracking all my marketing efforts with dates and screenshots. When I filed my taxes, I included this as backup documentation. My CPA said this level of detail really shows the IRS that you're serious about renting the property and not just trying to claim personal property expenses as business deductions. Don't let the vacancy stress you out too much from a tax perspective - it's a normal part of being a landlord and the IRS recognizes that!

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm new to rental property ownership and just inherited a condo that's been sitting empty for 2 months now. I've been listing it but haven't been keeping detailed records like you mentioned. Quick question - do you think it's too late to start documenting everything now? Should I go back and try to reconstruct my previous listing activities, or just start fresh with better record keeping going forward? Also, did your CPA have any specific format they preferred for the documentation, or was your spreadsheet approach sufficient?

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Paolo Romano

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Just wanted to share what I learned from my accountant about this exact issue. For nearly all 1099-NECs from businesses (including Google/YouTube): 1. The Payer's Federal Tax ID is always an EIN for businesses 2. It should follow the xx-xxxxxxx format 3. Google often prints it without the dash, but it's still an EIN 4. Only individual payers (like if a person hired you directly) would use an SSN If you're making decent money on YouTube, consider getting an accountant who specializes in creator income. There are so many deductions available that most people miss! I was able to write off a portion of my internet, my editing software, equipment, and even part of my home as a studio space.

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Thanks for this info! Did your accountant mention anything about how strict the IRS is about getting this specific field right? Like if I accidentally pick the wrong format but the actual numbers are correct, is that a big deal?

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Paolo Romano

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The IRS cares about the accuracy of the actual digits more than the format selection. If you entered all 9 digits correctly but selected the wrong format type, it's unlikely to trigger any issues since the underlying number is correct. That said, it's still best to get it right if you can. Selecting EIN vs SSN does matter for their internal matching systems. If you've already filed with the wrong format but correct numbers, it's not usually worth amending just for that. But since you haven't filed yet, definitely select the EIN option for Google/YouTube.

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Amina Diop

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Another creator here - wanted to add that Google's EIN is actually publicly available information. Their EIN is 77-0493581, so you can verify your 1099-NEC has the right info. Most big tech companies' EINs can be found online.

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That's super helpful! Do you happen to know if we should be entering this number with or without the dash when TurboTax asks for it? I'm at the same screen now.

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Lola Perez

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You can enter it either way - TurboTax will accept it with or without the dash. If you want to be precise, enter it as 77-0493581 (with the dash after the first two digits) since you've already selected the EIN format option. But honestly, entering just the 9 digits without any dashes works fine too - the software will format it correctly on the actual tax form regardless of how you input it.

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