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I went through this exact situation with my E-Trade Roth IRA about 6 months ago. Here's what I learned that might help you: First, the good news - since your account has been sitting there without investments, you likely have little to no earnings. As others mentioned, you can withdraw your original contributions penalty-free and tax-free at any time from a Roth IRA. To find out exactly what's contributions vs. earnings, log into your E-Trade account and look for "Account History" or "Tax Documents." You can also call them and ask specifically for your "Form 5498" information, which shows your contribution history. One thing that surprised me - even small amounts of interest from uninvested cash can count as "earnings." My $1,800 sitting in the settlement fund for years had earned about $15 in interest, which would have been subject to penalties if I withdrew it. The withdrawal process itself was straightforward once I knew my numbers. I was able to withdraw just my contribution amount online, and the money hit my bank account in 2 business days. E-Trade automatically generates the tax forms you'll need (Form 1099-R) at year-end. Since you're in Texas, you won't have state tax complications to worry about. Just make sure you only withdraw the contribution amount to avoid any federal penalties on earnings.
This is really helpful, thanks for sharing your experience! I had no idea that even the small interest from uninvested cash could count as earnings. That's exactly the kind of detail I was worried about missing. Did E-Trade make it clear when you were doing the withdrawal which portion was contributions versus that $15 in interest earnings? I want to make sure I don't accidentally withdraw more than just my contributions and trigger penalties I could have avoided.
Yes, E-Trade was actually pretty clear about this during the withdrawal process. When you go to withdraw funds online, there's a section that breaks down your account balance showing "Contributions" and "Earnings" separately. You can choose to withdraw only from contributions, only from earnings, or a mix of both. In my case, it showed something like "Available Contributions: $1,800" and "Available Earnings: $15.23" so I could see exactly what was what. I just selected to withdraw from contributions only, which kept me penalty-free. If for some reason the online interface doesn't show this breakdown clearly, definitely call their customer service before proceeding. They can walk you through it over the phone and make sure you're only withdrawing the contribution portion. Better to spend 10 minutes on a call than accidentally trigger unnecessary penalties!
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation where I need to understand my withdrawal options, but I wanted to add one important point that hasn't been mentioned yet. If you're under 59ยฝ and this is your first time withdrawing from a Roth IRA, make sure you understand the "ordering rules" for withdrawals. The IRS requires that you withdraw funds in this specific order: 1. Regular contributions (always tax and penalty-free) 2. Conversion contributions (may have penalties if under 5 years) 3. Earnings (subject to taxes and penalties if early withdrawal) Since your sister set up the account 7 years ago, you're likely dealing with regular contributions which come out first and are always penalty-free. But it's worth confirming with E-Trade what type of contributions were made to be absolutely certain. Also, even though you need the money urgently, consider if there are any other options first. Once you withdraw from a Roth IRA, you can't put that money back (unlike a 401k loan). The tax-free growth potential you're giving up could be significant over time, especially since you're young enough to have the account grow for decades. That said, financial emergencies are real and sometimes accessing these funds is the best available option. Just wanted to make sure you have all the information to make the best decision for your situation!
Hey, are you using TurboTax by any chance? I ran into that EXACT SAME ISSUE last week. The solution was to go to Forms Mode (you can search for it in the search bar at the top), then find Form 2210, and there's a checkbox that says "I didn't file this form last year" - check that and the software will stop asking for the missing info! Also, just a heads up that when you switch from MFJ to MFS, some of your deductions will be different. Make sure both of you don't claim the same credits for the kids. And double check your student loan interest deduction - when filing MFS, you usually can't claim that deduction (though the payment benefits might still make MFS worth it).
Quick correction - the student loan interest deduction is completely unavailable to anyone filing MFS regardless of income. It's one of the tax benefits you automatically give up when choosing MFS status. Just wanted to clarify in case people are counting on that deduction!
I had this exact same issue when I switched from MFJ to MFS three years ago! The tax software kept insisting I needed Form 2210 data from the previous year even though we'd never filed one. Here's what worked for me: First, double-check your 2022 return by searching the PDF for "2210" like others mentioned. If it's not there, you're good. Then in your tax software, look for an "interview mode" or "easy step" option and switch it OFF - go to the more detailed/advanced mode instead. This usually gives you more control over these yes/no questions. In the advanced mode, when it asks about Form 2210, there should be a clear "No, I did not file this form" option rather than just trying to skip past it. If you're still stuck, try starting a completely fresh return in the software and being very deliberate about answering "No" to the Form 2210 question the first time it appears. One more tip - make sure you're entering your 2022 AGI correctly from your actual tax return (not from memory). Sometimes the software gets confused if there's a mismatch and starts asking for forms you didn't file. Good luck finishing up before your extension deadline!
This is really helpful advice about switching to advanced mode! I'm actually dealing with a similar issue right now where the software keeps asking for forms I know I didn't file last year. The interview mode can definitely be too "smart" sometimes and make assumptions that aren't correct. One thing I'd add - if you're using FreeTaxUSA or TaxAct, look for something called "Form Override" in the tools menu. That's usually where you can manually tell the software to ignore certain form requirements. And definitely agree about being super careful with the AGI entry - I've seen the software get really confused when there's even a small typo there. Thanks for the tip about starting fresh if needed. Sometimes it's faster to just begin again rather than trying to fix whatever the software got confused about!
pro tip: write down both your old cycle codes somewhere safe. if you ever need to file separate in future its good to know what they were
This is totally normal! When you file jointly, the IRS processes everything under the primary taxpayer's SSN and cycle code. Your spouse's individual account will show "no return filed" because technically they didn't file an individual return - you both filed one joint return together. Just check the primary filer's transcript for all updates on your joint return status.
Does anyone know if there's a way to just check what my maximum SEP contribution is based on last year's tax return? I'm trying to max out my contribution for 2024 but don't want to over-contribute and deal with excess contribution penalties.
Line 8 on Schedule SE Part I shows your net earnings from self-employment. You can use that number as your starting point, then multiply by approximately 20% as others have mentioned to get your maximum contribution. Just remember that if your income changes significantly this year, you'll need to recalculate.
Just wanted to add my experience with this exact same confusion! I'm a freelance graphic designer and went through this same headache last year. The key breakthrough for me was understanding that the IRS uses "compensation" differently for employees vs. self-employed people. For employees, compensation is their salary BEFORE the employer makes SEP contributions (hence 25%). But for us self-employed folks, our "compensation" is net earnings AFTER we deduct our own SEP contribution, which creates that circular math nightmare you described. Here's what helped me: I used the worksheet in IRS Publication 560 (Worksheet 2-1) which walks through this step by step. It's still confusing, but at least it's official IRS guidance. For your $85K example, the actual max would be around $17,000 as others mentioned. The formula essentially works out to: Maximum = Net Profit รท 1.25, which gives you that ~20% effective rate. One tip: if you're planning quarterly estimated taxes, just budget around 18-20% of your net profit for SEP contributions to be safe. You can always true up at year end once you know your exact numbers.
Thank you so much for explaining this with a real example! The worksheet approach sounds way more reliable than me trying to figure out the math on my own. I'm also a freelancer (photographer) so our situations are pretty similar. One quick question - when you mention budgeting 18-20% for quarterly estimated taxes, are you saying to set aside that amount specifically for SEP contributions, or is that part of your overall tax withholding? I'm trying to figure out how much to save each quarter and want to make sure I'm not double-counting retirement contributions in my tax planning. Also, does the same circular math apply to Solo 401(k)s? I've been debating whether to switch from SEP to Solo 401(k) but don't want to jump from one confusing calculation to another!
Danielle Campbell
Check your WMR (Wheres My Refund) tool daily. Sometimes it updates before the transcript shows changes.
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Rhett Bowman
โขWMR hasnt updated for me in weeks lol its useless
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Molly Hansen
Based on your transcript, you're in great shape! Your return processed cleanly on March 3rd with no holds or additional review codes. The April 17th dates you see for codes 766 and 768 are just IRS system placeholders - they don't represent when you'll actually receive your refund. Code 766 is a credit to your account ($3,042) and code 768 is your Earned Income Credit ($5,116), totaling your $8,158 refund. Since your transcript shows processing complete with a negative balance (money owed to you), you should expect your refund within 7-21 business days from March 3rd. The key indicator is that there are no additional transaction codes after the initial processing, which means no delays or reviews. Most people with similar clean transcripts see their refunds hit their accounts within 2-3 weeks of the processing date. Keep checking your bank account - it could arrive any day now!
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