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Amina Diallo

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11 Having gone through this exact situation (moving from California to British Columbia), my advice is to interview at least 3 different cross-border specialists before deciding. Ask these specific questions: 1. How do they handle FBAR and FATCA reporting requirements? 2. What strategies do they recommend for RRSPs and 401(k)s in a cross-border situation? 3. What's their experience with the foreign earned income exclusion and foreign tax credits? 4. How do they stay current with changes to the US-Canada tax treaty? I ended up going with a smaller firm that specializes exclusively in US-Canada situations rather than a big international firm that does all countries. The specialized knowledge made a huge difference.

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Amina Diallo

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23 Do you think it's even possible to DIY this stuff with tax software? I've been using TurboTax for my US returns and SimpleTax for Canadian, but I'm moving to the US next month and wondering if I should just bite the bullet and pay for a professional.

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Charlotte Jones

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I wouldn't recommend DIY for cross-border situations, especially in your first year of moving. The tax software you mentioned (TurboTax and SimpleTax) aren't designed to handle the complexities of dual filing requirements, foreign tax credits, and treaty provisions between the US and Canada. I tried to do it myself initially and made several costly mistakes - missed foreign tax credit opportunities, incorrectly reported my Canadian retirement accounts, and didn't properly handle the timing of my residency change. The penalties for errors on international forms can be severe, and the IRS is particularly strict about foreign account reporting. For your first year, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help to establish the proper framework. Once you understand how everything works together, you might be able to handle simpler years yourself, but that initial transition year is just too complex to risk doing wrong.

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Logan Greenburg

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I went through a similar cross-border move (Toronto to Denver) about 3 years ago and can share some hard-learned lessons. The biggest mistake I made was waiting until tax season to find an accountant - by then, all the good cross-border specialists were swamped and I ended up with someone who wasn't as experienced. Start your search now, even before you move! A good cross-border accountant can actually help you plan the timing and structure of your move to minimize tax implications. For example, they might recommend which month to establish residency, how to handle any stock options or bonuses, and whether to liquidate certain accounts before or after the move. Also, ask about their fee structure upfront. Some charge a flat fee for cross-border moves, others bill hourly. I found that firms charging flat fees were more motivated to be efficient, while hourly billing sometimes led to unnecessarily complex approaches. One more tip: make sure they can handle both your final Canadian return (with departure tax calculations) AND your partial-year US resident return for the same tax year. Not all international tax preparers are comfortable with both sides of this equation.

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Dmitri Volkov

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This is excellent advice about starting early! I'm actually in the planning phase right now (move isn't until spring) so this timing tip is really valuable. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "departure tax calculations"? I keep seeing references to various tax implications when leaving Canada but I'm not clear on what specific calculations or forms are involved. Also, did your accountant help you with any pre-move planning around timing of income or asset sales? I'm definitely going to start interviewing specialists now rather than waiting. The flat fee vs hourly billing insight is particularly helpful - I hadn't thought about how that might affect their approach to the complexity of the situation.

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Oliver Brown

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Great question about departure tax! When you cease to be a Canadian resident, Canada treats it as if you've sold all your assets at fair market value on your departure date - this creates a "deemed disposition" for capital gains purposes. You don't actually sell anything, but you may owe tax on any unrealized gains. There are some exemptions (like your principal residence and certain retirement accounts), but things like non-registered investment accounts, rental properties, etc. can trigger significant tax bills. The good news is you get a "step-up" in cost basis for Canadian tax purposes if you ever return. My accountant definitely helped with pre-move planning. We timed my departure for early January to keep my high-income year fully in the US (better tax rates), and I sold some losing positions before leaving Canada to offset gains from the deemed disposition. We also looked at whether to contribute to my RRSP before leaving (spoiler: we didn't, as it would complicate US reporting). The planning aspect is where a good cross-border specialist really earns their fee - the actual tax return preparation is just documenting decisions you should have made months earlier!

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Miguel Ramos

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Quick tip for anyone filing back taxes with ITIN/SSN issues - print out copies of everything before you mail it! My returns got "lost" twice and having copies saved me from having to redo all that work. Also consider paying for tracking when you mail returns to the IRS.

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QuantumQuasar

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Also make sure you're mailing to the right IRS address! They have different processing centers depending on your state and what forms you're filing. I sent mine to the wrong place and it added months to the process.

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Sara Unger

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My husband transitioned from ITIN to SSN in 2022, and we had to file back taxes for 2018-2020. Here's what I learned from working with a tax professional: 1. Use the ITIN for those tax years (2019-2020) since that's what was valid then 2. Make sure to check if the ITIN was still valid for those years - if it expired, you'll need to renew it first 3. Include a cover letter explaining the ID number change to avoid processing delays 4. You're right that you won't qualify for certain credits like EIC for those years, but that's unfortunately how the system works For the payment plan, make sure all your returns are filed and processed first. The IRS won't approve a payment plan until they have all required returns on file. Once everything is processed, you can apply online if you owe less than $50K total. One thing that helped us was getting a tax transcript for each year to confirm our returns were properly processed before applying for the payment plan. You can request these online through the IRS website. Good luck - I know how stressful this whole process is, but you'll get through it!

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StellarSurfer

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now. Quick question - when you mention including a cover letter explaining the ID number change, did you attach this to each tax return you mailed in, or just send it once with all the returns together? Also, how long did it take for your returns to show up on the tax transcripts after you filed them? I'm trying to plan out the timeline for getting my payment plan set up.

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Andre Laurent

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@e7127ccef07c I included the cover letter with each return I mailed - basically a one-page explanation that my spouse's identification changed from ITIN to SSN after the tax year ended, so the return reflects the ID number valid at that time. I figured it was better to be redundant than have one return get separated from the explanation. For timing, it took about 8-10 weeks for the returns to show up on my tax transcripts after I mailed them (this was during tax season though, so processing was slower). I'd recommend checking your transcripts every few weeks once you hit the 6-week mark. One heads up - even after the returns showed on the transcripts, it took another 2-3 weeks for the online payment plan system to recognize that all my returns were filed. The IRS systems don't always sync up immediately. I ended up calling (well, using one of those callback services someone mentioned above) to confirm everything was ready before applying for the payment plan. The whole process from mailing returns to getting payment plan approval took about 4 months for me, but now I have peace of mind knowing everything is properly handled!

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Yuki Tanaka

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write down everything they tell you! I always forget important details after the call smh

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stuck on hold rn actually...going on 47 minutes ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Klaus Schmidt

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RIP to your afternoon fam

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update: they hung up on me after an hour ๐Ÿคฎ

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Need Help with Form 8594 for Partial Business Sale - Confused about Filing Requirements

I just met with a potential new client who's got some questions about a business deal from May that I'm struggling to figure out. They sold part of their business - specifically the trade name, client list, and a few assets - to another company for about $875k total. Around $750k of that was for the trade name and client list, with $125k going to the physical assets. Here's the tricky part - they didn't sell ALL their business assets. They still have about $190k in fixed assets plus cash and accounts receivable. They're keeping their EIN active and still collecting on invoices this month. They don't want to close down completely, just scale back since they're approaching retirement and the business got bigger than they wanted to manage. I'm confused about the Form 8594 requirement here. I know it's typically used for asset sales, but since the buyer only purchased specific assets plus the trade name/client list, I'm not sure if it applies. Also, we usually see Form 8594 with final tax returns, but they want to keep operating the business on a smaller scale. Another thing I'm struggling with is how to calculate the seller's basis in goodwill. Normally I'd say it's purchase price minus FMV of net assets, but that doesn't seem right when less than half the company's assets were actually sold. Anyone have experience with this kind of partial business sale? I'm really not sure how to handle this situation correctly.

Liam Mendez

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Don't forget about state tax implications too! Depending on where your client is located, there might be state-level reporting requirements for the business asset transfer. Some states have their own version of Form 8594 or require additional schedules. Also, if any of the physical assets sold were subject to sales tax, that needs to be addressed. Some states exempt business asset sales if they qualify as an "occasional sale" but others don't. Check your state regulations!

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Sophia Nguyen

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Good reminder! I learned this lesson the hard way. Had a client in California who sold part of their business and we handled all the federal forms correctly but completely missed the state requirements. Ended up with penalties that wiped out a chunk of their sale proceeds.

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Raรบl Mora

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This is exactly the kind of situation where Form 8594 gets tricky! I dealt with something very similar recently. The key distinction here is that your client sold what could be considered a "business segment" - the trade name and client list together essentially represent the customer-facing part of their business that could operate independently. Even though they're keeping the entity open and maintaining some operations, the IRS looks at whether the transferred assets constitute a trade or business from the buyer's perspective. Since the buyer acquired the ability to serve those clients under that trade name, it's likely an applicable asset acquisition requiring Form 8594. For the allocation, you'll want to be very careful about how the $750k for intangibles gets classified. Trade names typically go in Class IV (Section 197 intangibles other than goodwill and going concern value), while customer lists can sometimes be argued as Class V depending on the specifics. The purchase agreement language will be crucial here. One thing to watch out for - make sure you coordinate with the buyer's accountant if possible. I've seen cases where mismatched allocations between buyer and seller 8594 forms triggered IRS inquiries. The continued operation of your client's business actually makes this coordination even more important since it might raise questions about whether all relevant assets were properly identified and allocated.

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Morita Montoya

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This is really helpful, especially the point about business segment classification. I'm curious about one thing though - you mentioned that customer lists can sometimes be Class V depending on specifics. What factors determine whether a customer list goes in Class IV versus Class V? Is it based on how the list was developed or the nature of the customer relationships? Also, when you say the continued operation makes coordination more important, are you thinking the IRS might question whether other intangible assets (like ongoing customer relationships for retained clients) should have been included in the sale allocation? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything that could create problems down the road.

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Great question about the Class IV vs Class V distinction! Customer lists typically go in Class IV as Section 197 intangibles, but they could potentially be Class V (goodwill and going concern value) if they're so integral to the business that they represent the expectation of continued customer patronage rather than just contact information. The key factors are: (1) whether the list has independent value beyond just names/contacts, (2) the nature and duration of customer relationships, and (3) how the list was developed. A highly curated client list with long-term service contracts would lean more toward Class IV, while a basic contact database might be harder to separate from general goodwill. You're absolutely right about the coordination concern. The IRS might question whether the seller retained any intangible value related to customer relationships, especially if they're continuing to service some of the same market. They could argue that ongoing customer relationships or market presence should have been allocated as part of the sale. I'd recommend being very specific in the purchase agreement about exactly which customer relationships transferred and which remained with the seller. Documentation showing clear separation of the customer bases will be crucial if this ever gets scrutinized.

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Victoria Jones

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Actually I think I'm in a similar situation but my side gig is through Venmo. Will I also get a 1099-K? And can I deduct Venmo fees the same way?

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Maria Gonzalez

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Yes, Venmo operates under the same rules as PayPal for 1099-K reporting (they're actually owned by the same company). If you exceed the threshold, you'll receive a 1099-K from Venmo. And absolutely, Venmo fees are deductible business expenses just like PayPal fees. Treat them exactly the same way - report your gross income and deduct the fees as a business expense on Schedule C. Just make sure you're using a business profile on Venmo for your side gig transactions to keep everything clean and properly documented!

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Anna Xian

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Great question about the 1099-K! I just went through this exact situation with my photography side business last year. You're absolutely right to report the full $7,800 as income and then deduct the $350 in PayPal fees as a business expense on Schedule C. One tip that really helped me - make sure to download your PayPal annual statement that shows all your fees broken down by month. This makes it super easy to total up for your tax return and gives you solid documentation if the IRS ever asks questions. Also, don't forget about other potential business deductions for your Etsy shop! Things like design software subscriptions (Canva Pro, Adobe, etc.), any office supplies, and even a portion of your internet bill if you use it for business. These can add up to significant savings. I was surprised how many legitimate deductions I had once I really looked into it. TurboTax handles Schedule C pretty well - it will walk you through where to enter your gross receipts and business expenses. Just make sure to keep good records of everything throughout the year going forward!

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Harper Hill

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with understanding all this tax stuff for side businesses. Quick question - when you mention deducting a portion of internet bill, how do you actually calculate what percentage you can claim? Is it based on time spent working vs personal use, or square footage if you have a dedicated workspace, or something else? I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly and not overstepping any boundaries with the IRS.

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