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Adaline Wong

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I'm still confused about something. If I have a full-time W-2 job but also do some freelance work on the side, do I still need to fill out both Schedule C and Schedule SE? Or is Schedule SE only if ALL your income is from self-employment?

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Adaline Wong

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Thanks for explaining that! So even small side gigs need both schedules. Good to know about the Social Security wage base thing, though my day job definitely doesn't pay me that much so I'll probably have to pay the full 15.3% on my freelance income. Do I need separate Schedule Cs if I have different types of freelance work? Like I do some graphic design but also sell photos online.

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Yuki Sato

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For different types of freelance work, you can usually combine them on one Schedule C if they're related business activities. Graphic design and selling photos online could reasonably be considered related creative services, so you'd likely put both on the same Schedule C under something like "Creative Services" or "Digital Media Services." However, if the businesses are completely unrelated (like if you also drove for Uber or did landscaping), you'd need separate Schedule Cs for each distinct business type. The key is whether the activities are part of the same general business or completely different ventures. Either way, you'd still only need one Schedule SE - it calculates self-employment tax on the combined net profit from all your Schedule C forms.

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As someone who just went through this exact confusion last year, I totally get how overwhelming it feels! The key thing that helped me understand is thinking of it this way: Schedule C is your business report card (did you make money or lose money?), and Schedule SE is your "pay into Social Security and Medicare" form. When you had W-2 jobs, your employer automatically took out money for Social Security and Medicare from each paycheck. Now that you're self-employed, YOU have to calculate and pay that yourself - that's what Schedule SE does. It takes the profit number from your Schedule C and calculates how much you owe. One tip that saved me a lot of stress: keep really good records of ALL your business expenses throughout the year. Software subscriptions, equipment, even a portion of your internet bill if you work from home - these all reduce your Schedule C profit, which then reduces both your regular income tax AND your self-employment tax. I wish someone had told me that from the start! Don't worry, it gets easier once you do it the first time. The forms are actually pretty straightforward once you understand what each one is for.

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Yara Sabbagh

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! The "business report card" analogy really clicks for me. I've been keeping some receipts but probably not as organized as I should be. Do you have any suggestions for tracking expenses throughout the year? I'm worried I'm already missing deductions since I started freelancing a few months ago. Also, when you mention internet bills - is that something you can partially deduct even if you use the same internet for personal stuff too?

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Need help proving eligibility for ACTC/EITC during IRS audit - what documents work as proof?

I filed my 2024 taxes back on January 24th and expected my refund with EITC and ACTC after February 15th (when they start processing those credits). It's now March 20th and still nothing in my account. After calling the IRS multiple times and finally reaching someone in Examinations, they couldn't identify any issues. When I logged into my IRS account online, I discovered a CP75 audit notice that I never received in the mail. Apparently there's an issue with my address - our street was renamed by the city and the new name uses all available characters on forms, so my apartment number gets cut off. My situation is complicated. I have two kids I'm claiming - my daughter (straightforward) and my son (more complex). For my son, I'm not on his birth certificate yet. We submitted paperwork to add me, but the state claims they have no record of it. I need to prove he lived with me for more than 6 months. Would statements from my CashApp account (which I use as my primary bank) work as proof of residency? My paystubs and car insurance still show my old address with the wrong street name. Our utilities are included in rent, and the lease is only in my fiancΓ©e's name because the apartment complex never added me despite my multiple requests. What other documents could I use to satisfy the IRS audit requirements for EITC/ACTC? And what should my next steps be at this point? I really need this refund and don't want to lose these credits.

Liam Sullivan

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Don't forget that for EITC/ACTC audits, you can also use affidavits from people who know your living situation - like neighbors, clergy, or childcare providers. The IRS Form 8836 is specifically for this purpose and can be really helpful in cases like yours. Medical bills are also super useful proof, especially if they show you paying for your son's care at your address. Even if the paperwork shows the old street name, as long as it's clearly the same physical location, the IRS should accept it. They understand address formatting issues.

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Amara Okafor

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This is great advice! I worked at H&R Block for years and Form 8836 affidavits saved many clients with complicated documentation situations. Just make sure whoever fills it out knows they might get contacted by the IRS to verify the information. Also, make copies of EVERYTHING before sending it in!

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Ruby Knight

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I went through a similar CP75 audit situation last year and wanted to share what worked for me. The IRS actually accepts a surprisingly wide range of documentation for proving residency and relationship for EITC/ACTC purposes. For your son's residency proof, your CashApp statements could definitely work if they show transactions related to his care (groceries, clothing, school supplies, etc.) at your address. I also recommend gathering any of these if available: library card applications showing both your names, voter registration records, any mail addressed to you both at the same address. Since you mentioned the paternity paperwork got lost by the state, request a certified copy of your filing receipt or any correspondence about the paternity establishment attempt. Even incomplete paperwork shows your intent to establish legal relationship. For the address issue with your apartment number getting cut off - contact the IRS immediately to update your address in their system. You can do this by filing Form 8822 or calling their dedicated address change line. This will prevent future mail delivery issues. One tip that saved me time: organize your documentation by what each document proves (residency vs. relationship vs. support) and include a cover letter explaining your situation. The IRS examiner reviewing your case will appreciate the clear organization. The whole process took about 6 weeks once I submitted everything properly organized. Hang in there - these audits are stressful but very resolvable with the right documentation!

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Brady Clean

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This is really helpful, especially the part about organizing documents by what they prove! I'm dealing with something similar right now and hadn't thought about including a cover letter to explain the situation. How detailed should that cover letter be? Also, did you have to send originals or were copies okay for your audit?

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Don't forget that you should also look at state-specific tax minimization strategies. Some states have special deductions or credits that aren't available at the federal level. For example, my state offers a deduction for 529 college savings contributions that saves me about $400 per year in state taxes. Review your state tax forms or talk to a local tax pro about state-specific opportunities!

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One often overlooked strategy for W2 employees is charitable giving. If you're already itemizing deductions (which you might be with those health insurance premiums), consider bunching your charitable contributions into alternating years. For example, instead of giving $2,000 to charity each year, give $4,000 every other year. This can help push you over the standard deduction threshold in the years you itemize. Also, if you have any freelance or side income, consider forming an LLC. Even small amounts of self-employment income open up additional deduction opportunities like home office expenses, business equipment, and professional development costs. You can also set up a Solo 401(k) for that income, which has much higher contribution limits than regular IRAs. Finally, don't overlook timing strategies - if you're expecting a bonus or raise next year, consider deferring some income to 2026 if possible, or accelerate deductible expenses into 2025. Tax planning is really about optimizing across multiple years, not just the current one.

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Ayla Kumar

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I agree with Tyler and Sara that the fundamental economics here don't make sense. You're basically throwing good money after bad. Even if you could somehow make this work as a rental property loss (which would require years of legitimate rental activity), you'd still be out significant cash. Consider this: at your income level, you're already maxing out most tax-advantaged strategies. The passive loss limitations mean you couldn't even use rental losses against your W-2 income immediately - they'd just carry forward until you sell the property or have passive income to offset. Have you exhausted all options with the builder? Some possibilities: - Negotiate a partial refund (even 50% back is better than losing it all) - Transfer the credit to someone else who actually wants to buy - Use it toward a smaller, less expensive property that might actually appreciate - See if they'll extend the deadline in exchange for a smaller forfeiture Walking away from $130k hurts, but it's better than turning it into a $200k+ loss. Sometimes the best tax strategy is simply not making bad investments in the first place.

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Owen Devar

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Ayla makes excellent points about the fundamental economics here. As someone new to these tax discussions, I'm curious - are there any situations where intentionally taking a loss on real estate actually makes financial sense from a tax perspective? It seems like the passive loss rules really limit the immediate benefits for high earners like Jackie. Also, has anyone successfully negotiated with builders in similar situations? I'd imagine they'd rather work something out than have an unhappy customer, especially if Jackie is willing to accept a partial loss on the deposit.

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Anita George

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm facing a somewhat similar situation with a builder credit myself. What strikes me most is how everyone is focusing on the tax implications when the core issue seems to be risk management. Jackie, you mentioned you're both W2 employees making $520k combined - that suggests you have steady income and likely other investment options that don't involve the complexity and risk of this scenario. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is whether the builder has any flexibility on the timeline. Nine months feels arbitrary - is there any possibility they'd extend it for a fee that's less than the full $130k loss? Or could you use the credit toward a smaller property, maybe something in the $400k range that leaves you with a smaller net investment? I'm also wondering about the original reasons you backed out. You mentioned health concerns - are those fully resolved? Taking on a significant real estate investment (whether as a second home or rental) requires time, energy, and financial resources. If your health situation is still evolving, that might be another factor weighing against moving forward. Sometimes the best financial decision is accepting a sunk cost rather than compounding it. The tax strategies being discussed seem complex with limited upside given your income level.

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Anita raises some really important points that I think get to the heart of this decision. As someone also new to these discussions, I'm struck by how this seems less like a tax strategy question and more like a financial risk assessment. The health concerns that caused the original backing out are particularly relevant - real estate investments, whether as rentals or flips, can be unexpectedly demanding. If those health issues could resurface, you'd be stuck managing a property during a difficult time. I'm curious about the builder's motivation here too. Are they being inflexible because they have other buyers lined up, or is this just standard policy? Sometimes builders will work with customers who communicate openly about their constraints, especially if it means completing a sale rather than dealing with potential legal disputes over deposits. One question for the group: has anyone had success with assignment of purchase contracts in situations like this? Could Jackie potentially find someone else to take over the contract and credit, maybe for a finder's fee that's less than the full $130k loss?

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Kaylee Cook

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I used to work at a tax preparation company, and honestly, TurboTax is very reliable for most situations. That said, $17,500 does sound high, but not impossible with all your life changes. One thing nobody has mentioned yet - check how much you and your spouse had withheld from your paychecks throughout the year. If you both were withholding at higher single rates while actually being married (which often has better tax advantages), that alone could explain a big chunk of the refund. Also double check you didn't accidentally enter something twice. The most common mistake I saw was people entering the same W-2 twice or entering both the W-2 and a duplicate 1099 for the same job.

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This is such a good point about withholding! When I got married, we both kept our "single" withholding rates for most of the year and ended up with a massive refund that seemed wrong but was actually correct.

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Hannah White

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As someone who's been through a similar situation, I completely understand your concern about that $17,500 refund - it does sound shockingly high! But here's the thing: when you have multiple major life changes in one tax year like you do, the numbers can genuinely get wild. Let me break down why your refund might actually be legitimate: 1. **Marriage filing jointly** often provides significant tax advantages, especially if there's an income disparity between you and your spouse 2. **First-time homebuyer benefits** plus mortgage interest deduction can add thousands 3. **Child Tax Credit** is up to $2,000 per qualifying child, and if you have multiple dependents, this adds up fast 4. **Childcare credits** can be substantial - up to $3,000 for one child or $6,000 for two or more 5. **Education credits** if applicable can add another $2,500 per student The key thing is that you and your spouse were likely overwithholding all year at single rates before getting married, which means you've been overpaying taxes that you'll now get back. My advice: Go through your TurboTax entries one more time very carefully, especially checking that you didn't accidentally duplicate any income sources. If everything checks out, consider getting a quick review from a tax professional (about $150) just for peace of mind before filing. Better safe than sorry with numbers this large!

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Javier Torres

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This breakdown is really helpful! I'm curious about the overwithholding aspect you mentioned. If both spouses were claiming allowances as single people (like 2 and 1 in the original post), would that really create such a massive difference when filing jointly? I'm trying to understand if there's a quick way to estimate how much of that $17,500 might be from overwithholding versus actual credits and deductions.

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