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I've been through this exact scenario! Living abroad definitely adds complexity to the IDme-IRS verification process. A few things to try: First, make sure you're accessing the IRS portal directly (irs.gov/account) rather than through any bookmarked links - sometimes cached URLs can cause loops. Second, when you get to the IDme login screen, look for text that says something like "authorize IRS access" after you log in - this is the key step many people miss. Third, if you're still getting stuck, try using a different browser entirely or clearing all cookies/cache for both irs.gov and id.me domains. The international IP address usually isn't the issue, but the verification system can be finicky about browser sessions. If none of that works, you might need to contact IDme support directly - they can see if there's a technical issue with your account's IRS authorization status.

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice! I'm also an expat and had similar issues. One thing I'd add is to check your IDme account settings to make sure your phone number is still current - sometimes the IRS verification requires SMS verification as a secondary check, and if your number changed when you moved abroad, that could cause the loop. Also, @520e1ca3c235 is spot on about using the direct IRS portal link - I was using an old bookmark that had some session parameters that kept causing issues.

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QuantumQueen

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I went through this same frustrating experience last year! The trick is understanding that IDme verification and IRS authorization are two separate steps. Even with a verified IDme account, you still need to complete the IRS-specific authorization flow. Here's what worked for me as an international filer: 1) Make sure you're using the direct IRS.gov link, not any bookmarked pages, 2) When you log into IDme, look for the consent screen that specifically mentions sharing your verified information with the IRS - this is crucial and easy to miss, 3) Ensure your IDme profile address matches exactly what's on your most recent tax return (international addresses can be tricky with formatting), and 4) Try using a fresh browser session or incognito mode to avoid any cached authentication issues. The Canadian IP address shouldn't be a problem, but the address formatting and authorization consent are the most common culprits for the verification loop. If you're still stuck after trying these steps, IDme customer support can check if there's a technical issue with your account's IRS connection status.

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Mei Chen

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm dealing with this same issue right now from the UK. The part about the consent screen specifically mentioning IRS is key - I think I've been clicking through too quickly and missing that step. Quick question though - when you mention the address formatting, did you have to use the US address format or your actual international address? I've been going back and forth on whether to list my UK address or my last US address from before I moved.

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Emma Wilson

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As someone who recently went through this exact same process, I'd recommend starting with the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that others mentioned, but also keeping a few things in mind: First, since you're paying tuition out of pocket, make sure you understand which education benefits you can claim. The American Opportunity Tax Credit can be worth up to $2,500 and is partially refundable, which means it could be contributing to your large refund even if you owe no taxes. Second, when you adjust your W-4, start conservatively. Maybe aim to reduce your refund to $2,000-2,500 this year rather than going straight to breaking even. This gives you a buffer while you learn how the new system works. Finally, consider the timing - if you make changes now, you'll have fewer paychecks left in the year to spread the adjustment across, which means each remaining paycheck will see a bigger change in withholding. You might want to calculate whether that works with your budget or if you should make a smaller adjustment now and fine-tune it for next year. The key is getting comfortable with the process before trying to hit that perfect $0 balance!

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Jamal Carter

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This is excellent advice, especially about starting conservatively! I made the mistake of being too aggressive with my withholding adjustments a few years ago and ended up owing way more than I expected. The buffer approach is really smart. One thing I'd add - since you mentioned the American Opportunity Tax Credit being partially refundable, that's actually a huge factor in large refunds that many people don't realize. Even if you don't owe any taxes, you can still get up to $1,000 back from that credit alone. So when you're calculating your withholding adjustments, make sure you're accounting for the full value of your education credits, not just the tax-reducing portion. Also totally agree about the timing issue with fewer paychecks left. If the math works out to a really big change per paycheck, it might be worth waiting until January to implement the full adjustment and maybe just making a smaller tweak now to test the waters.

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I went through this exact same frustration two years ago when I got back a $4,800 refund! What really helped me was understanding that the new W-4 form works differently than the old one - you can't just add "allowances" anymore. Here's my step-by-step approach that got me to within $300 of breaking even: 1. **Use the IRS Withholding Estimator first** - It's way more accurate than generic calculators and will give you specific dollar amounts for your W-4. 2. **Account for your education expenses properly** - With tuition payments, you likely qualify for the American Opportunity Tax Credit (up to $2,500) or Lifetime Learning Credit (up to $2,000). These credits are a big part of why you're getting such a large refund. 3. **For the W-4 adjustment** - You'll probably need to add an amount in Step 4(b) for "Deductions" to reduce your withholding. The estimator will calculate this for you, but roughly speaking, if you want $200 less withheld per month, you'd add about $3,000-3,500 in deductions (depending on your tax bracket). 4. **Start conservative** - Maybe aim for a $1,500-2,000 refund this first year rather than trying to hit exactly zero. You can always fine-tune it next year. Since you're making changes mid-year, the adjustment will be spread across fewer paychecks, so each one will see a bigger change. Make sure that works with your monthly budget! The key is that education credits are often the "hidden" reason for large refunds, so factor those in carefully.

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Another option to consider if your employer is hesitant about the formal processes - you could suggest they simply agree not to contest your unemployment claim when you file. Even if they don't want to deal with reclassification paperwork right now, this would at least solve your immediate need for unemployment benefits. Most state unemployment offices will investigate worker classification when there's a dispute between a 1099 filing and an unemployment claim. If your work situation clearly shows you were functioning as an employee (set schedule, company equipment, integrated into their business operations, etc.), the state will often rule in your favor regardless of how you were originally classified for tax purposes. This approach gives your boss an easy "yes" that doesn't require him to admit fault or deal with IRS paperwork immediately, while still getting you the unemployment benefits you need. You can always pursue the tax classification issues separately later, but at least you'll have some income while job hunting. Just make sure to document your work arrangement thoroughly before you leave - save emails about schedules, screenshots of company systems you used, records of any training they provided, etc. This documentation will be valuable whether you're dealing with unemployment claims or potential IRS forms later.

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This is such a practical approach! I really like the idea of starting with just the unemployment piece - it's a much smaller ask that doesn't require your employer to navigate complex IRS processes or admit any wrongdoing. And you're absolutely right that state unemployment offices are often more aggressive about investigating worker classification than people realize. The documentation point is crucial too. I'd add that you should also save any communications about your job duties, performance reviews, or anything showing how integrated you were into their business operations. Even things like being included in company meetings, having access to internal systems, or being listed on the company website can help demonstrate you were functioning as an employee regardless of your tax classification. Plus, if the unemployment office does rule that you were misclassified, that creates a precedent that would strengthen your position if you later decide to pursue the tax issues with the IRS. Sometimes it's easier to fight one battle at a time rather than trying to solve everything at once, especially when you're already dealing with job loss stress.

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Jean Claude

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This is a really comprehensive discussion with lots of great advice! I wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - timing your conversation strategically within your remaining time at the company. Since you mentioned you're getting laid off at the end of the month, I'd suggest having this conversation as soon as possible, but also being prepared for the possibility that your employer might accelerate your departure if they feel threatened by potential liability issues. Some employers unfortunately react to these conversations by immediately terminating the relationship to avoid further exposure. That said, since you're already being laid off anyway, you don't have much to lose by bringing this up now rather than waiting until after you leave when you'll have much less leverage. I'd also suggest keeping detailed records of your current work arrangement before you have the conversation - things like emails showing you report to a supervisor, any company handbook materials you received, records of using company equipment or software, etc. Having this documentation ready will be valuable whether your employer is cooperative or if you end up needing to file formal complaints later. The unemployment benefits angle really is the best starting point since it's immediate and doesn't require your employer to admit fault or navigate complex tax procedures. Good luck with your conversation - you've got a lot of good strategies to work with here!

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Really great point about timing and the potential risk of accelerated termination! That's definitely something to consider, though like you said, since OP is already being laid off anyway, there's not much additional risk. I'd also suggest having a backup plan ready in case the conversation doesn't go well. Even if your employer refuses to cooperate or gets defensive, you'll still have all the options people mentioned earlier - filing the SS-8 form, pursuing unemployment benefits on your own, and documenting everything for potential future action. One thing that might help is preparing a simple one-page summary of the key classification factors that apply to your situation before the meeting. Not to wave it around threateningly, but to have it ready if your boss seems genuinely confused about the rules and wants to understand what you're talking about. Sometimes people are more receptive when they can see concrete criteria rather than just hearing vague claims about misclassification. The fact that you're approaching this proactively while still employed shows good judgment. Even if it doesn't result in immediate resolution, you're setting yourself up for much stronger positioning later if you need to pursue formal channels. Best of luck with the conversation!

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Great question! I went through the same confusion a few months ago. The trace number is basically the IRS's internal tracking ID for your specific refund payment. When you see "funded to you" with a trace number, it means your refund has been fully approved and is now in the payment pipeline. You should see your money within 3-5 business days for direct deposit or 1-2 weeks for a mailed check. The hardest part is over - your return cleared all their checks and reviews. Now it's just a matter of the payment system doing its thing. Hang in there, you're almost done!

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Grace Durand

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This is super helpful! I've been checking the IRS site obsessively and seeing all these different statuses and numbers. It's reassuring to know that the trace number basically means I'm in the home stretch. Thanks for breaking it down in simple terms - much easier to understand than the IRS jargon!

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Zoe Wang

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I see you're getting great answers here! Just wanted to add that you can also check your bank account for any pending deposits - sometimes the money shows up there before the IRS website updates to "refund sent" status. I've noticed with my credit union that refunds often appear as pending a day or two before they actually clear. The trace number is definitely your green light though - you're in the final stretch! Fingers crossed it hits your account soon. šŸ¤ž

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Luca Bianchi

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Just got my Green Dot deposit this morning! My DDD was 2/26 but the funds were available at 4:38am today. The Early Access feature they advertise actually worked as promised. I set up account alerts so I got a text notification as soon as it posted. Such a relief after checking my account practically every hour for the past three days!

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Did you receive any pending deposit notification before the actual deposit hit your account? I'm feeling anxious about my upcoming deposit and wondering if there's any way to know it's on the way before it actually posts?

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Dylan Cooper

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Green Dot usually releases funds 1-2 days before the official DDD when the IRS batch releases come through! Since your transcript shows 2/24 as the deposit date, you might see it hit your Green Dot account as early as 2/22 or 2/23. I've been using Green Dot for tax refunds for 3 years now and they're pretty consistent with early access - usually get a notification between 3-6am when it posts. Make sure you have push notifications enabled in the Green Dot app so you don't miss it! The waiting game is rough but Green Dot has been reliable in my experience. Good luck! šŸ¤ž

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Yara Nassar

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Thanks for the detailed timeline! That's really helpful to know about the 3-6am posting window. I'm new to using Green Dot for tax refunds and wasn't sure what to expect compared to traditional banks. The early access feature sounds like a nice bonus - definitely going to enable those push notifications now! Did you notice any difference in timing between weekdays vs weekends for when the deposits actually hit?

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