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Levi Parker

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Def been thru this last yr. The 846 date is NOT when u get the check. IRS sends the $ info to Treasury on that date, then Treasury prints checks in batches 2x/week. Depending on when ur 846 hits their schedule, could be 1-10 days b4 it's actually printed. Then USPS takes 3-5 biz days. Pro tip: DO NOT CALL the regular IRS # to check status - complete waste of time. They'll just read the same transcript info u already have. Ask me how I know šŸ™„

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Libby Hassan

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I feel your pain! Last year I called the IRS 17 times over three days trying to get info about my check. When I finally got through, they told me exactly what was already on my transcript. I was so frustrated I almost cried on the phone. The agent actually seemed embarrassed they couldn't give me better information.

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Is there any way to expedite a paper check in situations like this? I'm wondering if a hardship case can be made if someone really needs the funds urgently? I've heard the Taxpayer Advocate Service can help in some situations, but I'm not sure if this qualifies as a true hardship under their guidelines.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Hey there! I totally understand your stress - been in this exact situation before! šŸ˜… Just to add to what everyone else has shared, I went through this nightmare in 2022. My 846 date was March 3rd, and I actually received my check on March 17th - so exactly 2 weeks later. The key thing to remember is that the 846 date triggers a whole chain of events: IRS sends payment instructions to Treasury → Treasury prints the check → USPS delivers it. Each step takes time. For planning with your contractors, I'd honestly tell them to expect payment around March 20th to be safe. Also, definitely sign up for USPS Informed Delivery like Savannah mentioned - it was a lifesaver for my anxiety! You'll literally see a photo of your check in your email before it hits your mailbox. Hang in there, the money WILL come! šŸ’Ŗ

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Noah Irving

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Thanks for sharing your timeline, Ravi! As someone new to this whole tax refund process, it's really helpful to see actual real-world examples. Two weeks from the 846 date seems to be pretty consistent based on what everyone's saying. I'm curious though - did you have any way to track the check once it was actually mailed, or was USPS Informed Delivery the only visibility you had? I'm dealing with a similar situation for the first time and trying to figure out all my options for staying informed without going crazy with worry! šŸ˜…

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Section 163(j) and suspended excess business interest expense on K-1 Line 13K - partnership tax implications

I've got an interesting situation with the recent tax law changes from December that I'm trying to wrap my head around. For those who deal with the 163(j) limitations, they changed the rules to allow 50% ATI instead of 30%, plus there's that change to 30-year ADS depreciation for pre-2018 property instead of the previous 40-year requirement. Here's my situation: - Partnership A used Form 8990 to limit interest in 2018 and 2019, allocating excess business interest expense to partners on K-1 Line 13K - For 2020, it makes more financial sense to make the 163(j) election since the depreciation difference between 30 and 40 year gives a bigger deduction than what we'd get using the 50% ATI formula My question is what happens to that Line 13K excess business interest expense that was passed through in 2018 and 2019? From what I understand, partners can't net excess business interest expense against excess business interest income from other partnerships they might have. And Partnership A won't ever generate excess business interest income to allow the EBIE to be deducted since we're making the 163(j) election. I know the new changes allow deducting 50% of EBIE from 2019, but there's still going to be some amount left in suspense. What's supposed to happen with the 13K that wasn't previously deducted? Is it just "lost" forever? Should it be deducted when disposing of the interest in Partnership A? Really appreciate any insights on this!

Has anyone here dealt with reporting suspended EBIE on partner tax returns when there's a partial disposition of a partnership interest? The regulations aren't super clear on how to allocate the suspended EBIE in that scenario.

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In a partial disposition, you generally allocate the suspended EBIE proportionally to the portion of the partnership interest being disposed of. So if you're selling 25% of your interest, 25% of the suspended EBIE would adjust your basis prior to calculating gain/loss, while 75% would remain suspended.

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This is a complex area that I've been wrestling with in my practice as well. One thing to keep in mind is that the proposed regulations under 163(j) specifically address the treatment of suspended EBIE when partnerships change their election status. Even though Partnership A is making the 163(j) election going forward, the suspended EBIE from 2018 and 2019 doesn't just disappear. The key is understanding that this suspended amount is tracked at the partner level, not the partnership level. Each partner maintains their own "bucket" of suspended EBIE from each partnership. Beyond the CARES Act relief allowing 50% deduction of 2019 EBIE, the remaining suspended amounts will indeed carry forward until one of the triggering events occurs - either the partnership generates excess taxable income/excess business interest income in future years, or the partner disposes of their interest. What's interesting about your situation is that even with the 163(j) election, Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years if its income profile changes significantly. The election doesn't permanently eliminate this possibility, it just makes it less likely given the trade-off you're making with depreciation periods. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of each partner's suspended EBIE by year and partnership, as this will be crucial for proper reporting when disposition or other triggering events eventually occur.

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Omar Fawaz

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This is really helpful context about the partner-level tracking versus partnership-level tracking. I've been getting confused about where the responsibility lies for maintaining these records. One follow-up question - when you mention that Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years even with the 163(j) election, what would be the most common scenarios where this might happen? I'm trying to help my partners understand whether they should expect their suspended EBIE to remain in limbo indefinitely or if there are realistic paths for it to be utilized before disposition. Also, are there any specific record-keeping requirements or forms that partners need to maintain for tracking this suspended EBIE? I want to make sure we're documenting everything properly from the start.

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im in the exact same situation. filed on jan 22, accepted jan 23, then yesterday saw it flip to pending and back to accepted. From what i can gather online this is totally normal and just means your return is moving through their process. as long as it went back to accepted u should be fine

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I've been through this exact same situation multiple times over the years. The status flip from Accepted to Pending and back is actually a good sign - it means your return is actively being processed rather than just sitting in a queue. When the estimated refund date disappears, it's usually because the IRS system is recalculating timing based on current processing volumes. Since you mentioned you claimed EIC, that explains everything - those returns are held until mid-February regardless of when you file due to the PATH Act. Your 21-day processing window basically starts around February 15th, so you're looking at early March for your refund. The status changes you're seeing are just the system preparing your return for the next phase of processing now that the PATH Act hold period is ending. Nothing to worry about at all!

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Dyllan Nantx

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dont trust wmr its trash. transcripts are the only way to know for sure. or use that taxr thing everyone keeps talking about idk

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facts WMR is always behind 🤮

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NebulaNomad

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Same situation here! Cycle 05 with TurboTax fees and Chime. PATH message disappeared from WMR on Tuesday for me. From what I've read, once PATH is gone and you're weekly cycle, the 846 should post on your next transcript update day. Friday mornings are usually when we see the magic happen! šŸ¤ž Keep checking around 3-6am EST. The waiting game is brutal but we're almost there!

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Thanks for the breakdown! That timeline makes sense. I've been checking at like 2am every Friday morning and nothing yet, but sounds like 3-6am is the sweet spot. The waiting really is brutal when you're broke and need that money 😭 Fingers crossed we all get our 846 codes this Friday!

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PaulineW

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Just wondering... did you ever ask the partnership itself for an explanation? When I was in a similar situation, I emailed our partnership's accountant directly and they sent me a detailed breakdown of how my K-1 was calculated and why the distributions were different from my share of income. Sometimes going directly to the source is the fastest way to understand what's happening.

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This is the best advice here. The K-1 preparer should be able to explain exactly why there's a discrepancy between ownership percentage and distribution percentage. They might even have a calculation worksheet they can share.

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That's a really good suggestion! I didn't think to contact the partnership accountant directly. I've been trying to figure this out through my business partner but maybe I should just go straight to the source. I'll reach out to them tomorrow and see if they can provide a calculation worksheet or explanation.

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Ava Garcia

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Your CPA is correct - you need to report the $24,863 from Line 1 on your Schedule E. This is a classic partnership taxation issue where your share of profits (11.53%) differs from your distribution percentage (3.06%). The key thing to understand is that partnerships are "pass-through" entities, meaning you're taxed on your allocated share of the partnership's income whether you receive it in cash or not. The partnership agreement clearly established different percentages for profit allocation versus distributions (likely due to that IRA loan conversion you mentioned). Think of it this way: the partnership earned income, and 11.53% of that income is legally "yours" for tax purposes even though the distribution formula gives you a smaller cash payout. The $17,012 difference between your taxable income and distribution is essentially being retained by the partnership, increasing your basis in the partnership. This might feel unfair since you're paying tax on money you didn't receive, but it's completely legal and common in partnership structures with special allocations. Your business partner may not fully understand the tax implications of the partnership agreement that was set up. I'd stick with your CPA's advice on this one - reporting only the distribution amount would likely trigger IRS issues down the road.

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This explanation really helps clarify things! I've been struggling to understand how I could owe taxes on money I never actually received, but the way you explained it as the partnership retaining "my" portion makes sense. So if I'm understanding correctly, that $17,012 difference is increasing my basis in the partnership, which means if we ever sell or dissolve the partnership, I wouldn't be taxed again on that amount? That would make this feel a lot less unfair. I think I need to have a serious conversation with my business partner about the tax implications of our partnership structure. It sounds like they might not fully grasp how the special allocation affects individual tax obligations.

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