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Just wanted to chime in with my recent experience - I sold my rental condo last year after owning it for 6 years and had about $22K in suspended passive losses. The key thing I learned is that you need to make absolutely sure you're tracking the suspended losses correctly from year to year. I found discrepancies between what my tax software was showing and what was actually on my filed returns. Turns out my software wasn't properly carrying forward some of the losses from 2020. When I sold the property, I was able to claim all the accumulated passive losses against my regular income - not just against the gain from the sale. This was a huge tax benefit that I almost missed because I didn't understand the rules initially. My advice: Go back through your actual filed returns (not just what your software shows) and manually track your suspended losses year by year. Make sure the amounts match up. The IRS has all your filed returns on record, so you want to make sure you're claiming the right amount when you dispose of the property. Also, don't forget that if you had any years where you used some of the passive losses (maybe you had other passive income), those amounts reduce your suspended loss carryforward. It's easy to overlook this when calculating your total accumulated losses.
This is really helpful advice about manually tracking the suspended losses! I'm curious - when you found discrepancies between your software and filed returns, how did you reconcile them? Did you have to file amended returns for the years where the software got it wrong, or could you just correct it going forward when you sold the property? Also, you mentioned years where you might have used some passive losses against other passive income - how do you identify those situations? I'm worried I might have missed something like that in my own tracking.
When I found the discrepancies, I didn't need to amend prior returns - I just made sure to use the correct amounts from my actual filed returns when calculating the total suspended losses for the year of sale. The IRS systems track what was actually filed, not what your software might have shown. For identifying years where you used passive losses against other passive income, look for any years where you had rental income from other properties, or income from other passive activities like limited partnerships. On Form 8582, if line 9 (total passive income) was greater than zero in any year, you likely used some of your suspended losses. The key is to look at the actual amount of passive losses you carried forward each year - it should equal your total accumulated losses minus any that were actually used. I'd recommend going through each year's Form 8582 line by line. Look at line 16 (prior year unallowed losses) and line 22 (losses allowed for the current year). The difference between what you started with and what you carried forward tells you how much you actually used that year.
I've been dealing with a similar situation with my rental property that I'm planning to sell next year. One thing that's been really helpful is keeping a separate spreadsheet to track my suspended passive losses year by year, outside of whatever my tax software shows. I noticed that some tax software doesn't clearly show the suspended loss carryforward amounts on the actual forms, even though they're tracking them internally. This can make it confusing when you're trying to figure out exactly how much you have accumulated. For your situation with line 1c being empty, this is actually pretty common. Many tax software programs track the suspended losses in their internal calculations but don't always populate line 1c explicitly. The losses are still being carried forward properly - they're just not displayed in that specific line. When you do sell the property, make sure to keep good documentation of your total suspended losses. I've heard stories of people missing out on thousands in deductions because they couldn't properly document their accumulated losses from prior years. The IRS will have your filed returns on record, so you want to make sure your calculations match what was actually filed. One more tip - if you're getting conflicting advice, it might be worth getting a consultation with a CPA who specializes in rental properties. The passive loss rules can be tricky, and you don't want to leave money on the table or make mistakes that could trigger an audit.
This is excellent advice about keeping a separate spreadsheet! I'm actually in the process of preparing to sell my rental property next year too, and I've been struggling with tracking my suspended losses across different tax software over the years. Your point about line 1c being empty is really reassuring - I was worried I had been doing something wrong all these years. It sounds like as long as the losses are being carried forward in the software's internal calculations, that's what matters. The documentation aspect you mentioned is something I hadn't fully considered. Do you recommend keeping copies of all the Form 8582s from each year, or is there other specific documentation that would be helpful to have ready when I sell? I want to make sure I have everything organized before I get to that point. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone going through a similar situation!
Quick question - has anyone used TurboTax to file with an EIDL grant? Is there a specific place where you enter this or do you just not include it as income? Don't want to mess this up!
I used TurboTax last year with an EIDL grant. For federal, I didn't include the grant as income since it's not federally taxable. But I did document it in the "Additional Information" section just to have it on record. For state taxes (I'm in NY), I had to manually add it as "Other Income" following NY state guidance. TurboTax didn't prompt me specifically about EIDL grants - had to know to do this myself.
Great question! As others have mentioned, the EIDL grant portion is generally not taxable at the federal level under Section 139 of the Internal Revenue Code. However, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but is really important - make sure you keep detailed records of exactly how you used those grant funds. Even though the grant isn't taxable income, the IRS still wants to see proper documentation if you're ever audited. I'd recommend creating a simple spreadsheet showing the grant amount, the date received, and specifically what business expenses you paid with those funds (rent, utilities, payroll, etc.). Also, since you mentioned you're between accountants, when you do find a new one, make sure they're familiar with EIDL grant treatment. Some preparers who don't deal with small business clients regularly might not be up to speed on the current rules. Good luck with your filing!
This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm dealing with a similar situation and hadn't thought about creating a detailed spreadsheet. One thing I'm wondering about - if you used the EIDL grant funds for multiple different expense categories, do you need to break down the percentage allocation for each category, or is it enough to just list all the expenses that totaled up to the grant amount? Also, did anyone have issues with their new accountant not being familiar with these rules? I'm interviewing a few CPAs and want to make sure I ask the right questions upfront.
Has anyone talked about the deadline aspect? You mentioned having an extension, but those military extensions only last so long. Are you using a tax professional or filing yourself? With this complexity, it might be worth getting a CPA who specializes in military transitions.
There are actually programs like Military OneSource that offer free tax help specifically for situations like this. They have CPAs who understand military pay issues and can file for you for free.
I went through something very similar when I separated from the Air Force in 2022. The key thing that helped me was getting everything documented in writing from DFAS before filing my taxes. Here's what I'd recommend based on my experience: 1. **File with your W-2 as is** - Your payroll contact is correct that the W-2 reflects the proper reporting to the IRS. The overpayments aren't taxable income since they're considered debt. 2. **Get a debt collection statement** - Request written documentation from DFAS showing the overpayment amount and confirming it's being treated as debt, not income. This protects you if there's ever an audit. 3. **Understand your repayment options** - When you repay, you'll likely only need to repay the net amount (what hit your bank account after taxes). The withholdings stay with the IRS as credits on your return. 4. **Don't wait for DFAS to contact you** - They can be incredibly slow. Proactively starting the debt collection process will give you more control over timing and payment options. The good news is this situation is more common than you think, and the IRS understands how military pay works. Your extension gives you time to get the documentation you need, but don't stress too much about filing "incorrectly" - you're filing with the W-2 as provided, which is exactly what you're supposed to do.
This is exactly the kind of clear, step-by-step advice I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking it down so thoroughly. I'm definitely going to follow your recommendation about getting that debt collection statement in writing before I file. One quick follow-up question - when you say "proactively starting the debt collection process," do you mean just calling DFAS directly and asking them to initiate it, or is there a specific form or process I should request? I want to make sure I'm asking for the right thing when I contact them. Also, did you end up needing any of that documentation later, or was it mainly just for peace of mind during filing?
One important thing nobody's mentioned - if you file on time but your return gets rejected after the deadline, make sure you keep proof of your original filing attempt! Screenshot the confirmation page showing you submitted before the deadline. This has saved me from penalties twice when dealing with rejections. The IRS system timestamps your submission attempt, not just the final acceptance.
This is super helpful advice. How long should we keep these records? Just wondering if the screenshot on my phone is enough or if I should save it somewhere more permanent.
I'd recommend keeping those records for at least 3-7 years, which is the typical IRS audit window. A screenshot on your phone is fine as a backup, but I always save mine to cloud storage or email them to myself as well. Phone storage can get corrupted or you might lose/upgrade your device. Also pro tip - most tax software keeps a record of submission attempts in your account history, so you can usually go back and download proof even if you forgot to screenshot at the time. Just make sure you don't delete your account after filing!
Great question about payment timing! As others have mentioned, you should always make your payment by the filing deadline regardless of acceptance status. I learned this the hard way a few years ago when I waited for acceptance and ended up paying interest on late payments. One thing to add - if you're ever unsure about your exact tax liability close to the deadline, it's better to overpay slightly than underpay. The IRS will send you a refund for overpayments (though it takes time), but underpayments start accruing interest and penalties immediately after the deadline. Also, for future reference, you can make payments online through IRS Direct Pay or EFTPS even if your return hasn't been accepted yet. Just make sure to include your SSN and tax year so the payment gets properly credited to your account when your return is eventually processed. Glad your return got accepted! The 1095-A forms can definitely cause processing delays, especially when combined with dependent status questions.
This is really solid advice about overpaying rather than underpaying! I'm curious though - if you overpay and request a refund, does that refund get processed faster or slower than a regular refund? I always worry about tying up too much money with the IRS, especially if it takes months to get back. Also, thanks for mentioning EFTPS - I've never used it but heard it's more reliable than some of the other online payment options. Do you know if there are any fees associated with it compared to Direct Pay?
Quinn Herbert
3 has anyone dealt with the 1098-T form in this situation? my daughter's school sent her the form with HER ssn on it since she's the student, but if i'm claiming her and the education credit, do i need to somehow get that form reissued to me? how does this work with electronic filing?
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Quinn Herbert
ā¢23 The 1098-T doesn't need to be reissued. When you file your taxes and claim the education credit, you'll just enter the info from your daughter's 1098-T on your return. The tax software will ask for the student's SSN anyway, so it all matches up in the IRS systems. They expect the student and the person claiming the credit to potentially be different people.
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Oliver Alexander
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my college sophomore who paid about $12,000 in tuition from her summer job earnings. One thing I learned from my tax preparer last year is to keep really detailed records of what you're paying for your kids' support - not just the big things like housing and health insurance, but also groceries, phone bills, car insurance, etc. The IRS "more than half support" test includes ALL living expenses for the year. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking what I pay vs what she pays, and it was eye-opening. Even though she paid her own tuition, I was still covering about 65% of her total support costs. This documentation gave me confidence to claim her as a dependent and take the American Opportunity Credit on my return. The key is looking at TOTAL support for the year, not just who paid the biggest single expense. Tuition might be the largest line item, but when you add up housing, food, insurance, transportation, etc., parents often still provide the majority of support even for working college students.
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Katherine Hunter
ā¢This is really smart advice! I never thought about tracking ALL the expenses like that. Do you have a template for that spreadsheet you mentioned? I'm realizing I probably need to get more organized about documenting what I pay for vs what my kids pay for themselves. It sounds like it would be super helpful if the IRS ever questions the dependency claim.
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