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How to report crypto gambling transactions: buying gift cards, gambling, then withdrawing ETH - tax software questions

So I've been doing some online gambling that uses this weird system where I can't deposit crypto directly. Instead, I buy gift cards from a gaming marketplace, deposit those on the gambling site, and then when I cash out, I choose ETH as my withdrawal method. I'm trying to figure out how to properly report this on my taxes. I've already included my gambling winnings on my tax return, but I'm confused about how to handle the crypto part in my tax software. When I entered the transactions, it's showing a capital loss of $101, but I'm not sure if that's right since I didn't buy the ETH directly on my normal crypto exchange. Basically I'm purchasing ETH indirectly through this gambling site after using gift cards to gamble. Does anyone know how to list this correctly in crypto tax software? I want to make sure I'm reporting everything properly to avoid issues with the IRS.

Former gambling affiliate here. What you're describing is actually pretty common with offshore gambling sites. In my experience, you want to treat this as two separate transactions: 1) Gambling winnings (which you've already reported) 2) Acquisition of ETH at the market value when you received it The $101 loss is probably from the ETH dropping in value between when you received it and when you sold it (or the current value if you still hold it). One thing to watch out for - make sure the gambling site didn't take a fee when converting to ETH. Some sites take 2-5% when processing crypto withdrawals, which would affect your cost basis.

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Thanks for this explanation! Yes, the site did take a small fee during the conversion to ETH. Should I be including that fee in my calculations somehow? Sorry if that's a dumb question, I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this.

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That fee is important! It should be factored into your cost basis. For example, if you withdrew $1000 worth of winnings but only received $950 in ETH after the fee, your cost basis should be $950, not $1000. When you eventually sell that ETH, you'll calculate your gain/loss based on the $950 figure. The $50 fee isn't deductible separately - it's just part of the transaction cost of acquiring the ETH. This is likely contributing to why your software is showing a capital loss.

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Not financial advice but i had a similar problem when i was using bovada and withdrawing to btc. i just reported my gambling winnings like normal and then treated the crypto as if i bought it that day at whatever the price was when i received it. seems to match what smarter ppl than me are saying here lol

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How did you figure out the exact price when you received it though? The price can change like every minute and im never sure what exact value to use.

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@Juan Moreno Good question! I usually just use the price from a major exchange like Coinbase or Binance at the time I received the transaction. Most crypto tax software will pull historical prices automatically if you enter the date and time. If you re'not sure about the exact timing, check your email confirmation from the gambling site - they usually timestamp when the withdrawal was processed. That s'the moment you acquired "the" crypto for tax purposes. You can then look up what BTC/ETH was trading for at that specific time on sites like CoinGecko or CoinMarketCap.

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Do I need Form 1099-R Simplified Method Worksheet for disability payment at 71? Code 3 confusion

I'm really confused about this tax situation and hoping someone can help me make sense of it. I'm 71 years old and received a 1099-R this year for my disability benefits. The distribution code in box 7 shows "3" for disability, which I understand means it's taxable. But I'm confused about whether I need to use the Simplified Method Worksheet. The 1099-R shows the taxable income amount in box 2a, but I'm wondering if I should be calculating it differently since I'm over 70? Does the Simplified Method even apply to disability payments or just pension distributions? The form doesn't give clear instructions for my situation. I've been on disability for about 7 years now, and this is the first time I'm questioning how to handle this. Previously I just reported what was on the form, but after talking with my neighbor who's also disabled but younger, I'm wondering if I've been doing it wrong. Any help would be really appreciated!

Just adding another perspective... if you're receiving disability payments from a qualified retirement plan, the instructions for Form 1099-R say the payer should use Code 3 only if you haven't reached the minimum retirement age set by your plan. After that age, it switches to regular pension payments (usually Code 7). But here's what's confusing - minimum retirement age varies by plan! It's not standardized. Some plans might define it as 55, others as 62 or 65. If you're 71 and still getting Code 3, you really should contact your plan administrator and ask why they haven't changed the code if you're above your plan's minimum retirement age.

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How do you even find out what your plan's minimum retirement age is? My old employer went out of business and the plan is now managed by some third party administrator who never answers the phone.

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You can usually find your plan's minimum retirement age in the Summary Plan Description (SPD) that you should have received when you enrolled in the plan. If you don't have this document, try looking for online account access with the third-party administrator - they often have plan documents available for download. If those options don't work, try sending a certified letter to the administrator specifically requesting the Summary Plan Description and information about the minimum retirement age. By law, they must respond to formal requests for plan documents. Another option is to check if your disability payments changed amount when you reached a certain age - that change often coincides with the minimum retirement age.

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Just wanted to point out something about the Simplified Method for folks in this situation. If your 1099-R does change to code 7 (from the disability code 3), AND you made contributions to your pension plan with after-tax dollars, THEN you'll need the Simplified Method Worksheet to figure out what portion of your payments is taxable. If you didn't make any after-tax contributions (most people don't), then the full amount is usually taxable no matter what code is on the form. Code 3 vs Code 7 mainly affects WHERE you report the income on your return, not necessarily HOW MUCH is taxable.

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This is super helpful! I've been trying to figure out if my payments are fully taxable or not. How do I know if I made "after-tax contributions"? I honestly can't remember from 30 years ago when I was working...

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Great question! If you made after-tax contributions, they would have been deducted from your paycheck AFTER income taxes were already taken out (so you paid tax on that money when you earned it). Most employer pension plans only accept pre-tax contributions, but some allow after-tax too. Check old pay stubs if you have them - after-tax pension contributions would be listed separately from regular pre-tax retirement deductions. You can also contact your former employer's HR department or the current plan administrator to ask for your contribution history. They should have records showing the breakdown of pre-tax vs after-tax contributions you made over the years. If you can't find any records and you're not sure, it's safer to assume all contributions were pre-tax (which means 100% of your payments are taxable). Most people never made after-tax contributions to employer plans.

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As Of Date changed from Feb 10 to March 3 - What does this mean for my refund?

My transcript as of date just updated from February 10th to March 3rd. Been checking every day and noticed the change this morning. Anyone know what this means? Getting nervous about my refund since I filed back in January.

its literally the most useless feature on transcripts ngl. Been filing taxes for 20 years and that date means absolutely nothing

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Don't stress too much about the as of date changes! I've been through this rodeo multiple times and it really is just the IRS systems doing their regular updates. What you want to watch for are the actual transaction codes (150, 846, etc.) on your transcript - those tell the real story. The as of date can bounce around like a ping pong ball and mean absolutely nothing. Keep an eye on your actual refund status through WMR instead!

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Excessive Transcript Checking May Trigger IRS Flags - Per Circular 230 Β§10.22

According to Internal Revenue Manual 4.19.13.10, excessive account monitoring can potentially flag your return for additional review. I've noticed many people obsessively checking WMR and their transcripts multiple times daily. As an independent contractor who's gone through audits before, I can tell you this is counterproductive. Per Publication 5344, if you've filed an accurate return with proper documentation, you should have minimal concerns. The IRS processing timeline (21 days standard per IRC Β§6611) is clearly stated on their website. Constantly checking may actually delay your refund by triggering automated review systems. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences, but patience is truly the best approach. Transcripts typically update Thursday nights - so checking constantly won't change your processing status.

IMO the checking thing is NBD compared to the actual issue - ppl filing questionable returns. The IRS has AI systems now that flag sus returns b4 they even get processed. If ur legit, ur good. If ur trying to game the system w/ fake biz expenses or claiming kids that aren't urs... that's what's causing delays for everyone. Not checking WMR too much lol. The real implications are for the whole system when fraudulent returns clog up the works. Checking ur status is just a symptom of anxiety, not the cause of delays.

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Comparing my experience this year to last year confirms this. Last year I had a straightforward W-2 return and got my refund in 8 days flat. This year I have 1099 income, business expenses, and home office deductions - suddenly I'm at 31 days and counting. It's not because I'm checking more often, it's because my return is more complex and probably in a different processing queue.

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Based on the 2024 filing season patterns I've observed, transcript updates most consistently happen on Thursday nights between 12am-3am ET, with refunds typically deposited on Wednesdays. Rather than checking multiple times daily, I'd recommend setting a calendar reminder for Friday mornings to check once weekly. If your return was accepted before February 15th, you should have seen movement by now. If accepted after March 1st, the normal processing time extends through April 22nd for straightforward returns. I understand the anxiety - we all want our money - but creating a structured checking routine might help manage the stress while also giving you accurate information.

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Do these Thursday night updates apply to everyone or just certain processing centers? I've read somewhere that different regional centers have different update schedules. My return is processing in the Kansas City center if that matters.

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From my experience working with clients across different regions, the Thursday night transcript updates are generally system-wide, but processing centers do have slight variations in timing. Kansas City typically processes between 1-3am CT (2-4am ET), so you might see updates slightly later than East Coast filers. The regional differences are more about which batches get processed first rather than completely different schedules. Have you noticed any pattern in when your transcript has updated in the past, or is this your first time monitoring it closely?

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Wrong direct deposit info on return - How long for paper check from IRS?

I messed up and put the wrong account number on my tax return for direct deposit. The IRS rejected it and now they're sending a paper check. Anyone know how long this usually takes? Getting anxious since I really need this money.

Pro tip: sign up for informed delivery with USPS so you know when its coming

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omg great idea! doing this rn

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The IRS rejected my direct deposit due to a closed account and it took about 3 weeks to get the paper check. Just make sure to track it with informed delivery like @Diego mentioned - that really helped ease my anxiety knowing it was on the way. The waiting is the worst part but it will come!

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