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I've been dealing with Section 179 carryovers for my consulting business and wanted to share what I've learned through some painful trial and error. The key thing that wasn't immediately obvious to me is that you need to maintain really detailed records of WHEN each carryover originated, not just the total amount. Here's why this matters: if you have carryovers from multiple years (like your $570 from 2022 plus new ones from 2025), you need to use them in FIFO order - first in, first out. So your 2022 carryover gets used before any 2025 carryover when you finally have enough business income. Also, make sure you're calculating your business income limitation correctly each year. It's not just your Schedule C profit - you need to consider the taxable income limitation as well. This caught me off guard in a year where my business was profitable but my overall tax situation was different due to other deductions. One more tip: create a simple spreadsheet to track each asset's Section 179 status. Include columns for purchase date, original cost, Section 179 amount taken, carryover amounts by year, and current status. This has saved me so much headache when preparing returns and will be invaluable if you ever get audited.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm new to dealing with Section 179 carryovers and had no idea about the FIFO rule. So if I understand correctly, if I have that $570 carryover from 2022 and then create a new $300 carryover in 2025, when my business finally has enough income in 2026 to use some of these deductions, I have to apply the $570 first before I can touch the $300 from 2025? Also, can you clarify what you mean by "taxable income limitation"? I thought the business income limitation was just based on the Schedule C profit. Is there another calculation I need to be aware of beyond just looking at my net business income?
Yes, exactly right on the FIFO rule! Your $570 from 2022 gets used first before any portion of the 2025 carryover can be claimed. This is why keeping detailed records by year is so important. For the taxable income limitation, there are actually TWO tests for Section 179: the business income limitation (your Schedule C net profit) AND your overall taxable income limitation. The Section 179 deduction can't exceed your taxable income for the year from all sources. So even if your business is profitable, if you have large itemized deductions, other business losses, or other factors that reduce your overall taxable income to zero or negative, you might still be limited on Section 179. Most people only think about the business income test, but the taxable income test can bite you in years where your overall tax picture is complicated. The smaller of these two limitations determines how much Section 179 you can actually claim that year.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have Section 179 carryovers from multiple years due to business losses. One thing I want to emphasize that really caught me off guard is the importance of keeping your Form 4562 from each year, even the loss years. I made the mistake of not saving my 2022 Form 4562 because "nothing happened" that year due to the loss. When I went to prepare my 2025 return, I had to reconstruct the carryover amounts from scratch. The IRS transcript didn't show the detail I needed, and it took me weeks to piece together which assets had carryover amounts and how much. Now I keep a dedicated tax folder with every Form 4562, even if the carryover amount is zero that year. I also maintain a running summary sheet that shows the carryover balance at the end of each tax year. This has made preparing subsequent years so much easier and gives me confidence that I'm not missing any deductions I'm entitled to claim. For anyone using tax software, double-check that your carryover amounts are transferring correctly year to year. I've seen cases where software updates or version changes caused carryover amounts to get lost in the transfer process.
This is such great advice about keeping all the Form 4562s! I learned this lesson the hard way too. I'm actually in my first year dealing with Section 179 carryovers and I'm already creating a dedicated Section 179 tracking system based on all the advice in this thread. One question for you - when you mention keeping a "running summary sheet," do you track this by individual asset or just total carryover amounts? I'm trying to figure out the right level of detail to maintain without making it overly complicated. I have three different pieces of equipment with Section 179 carryovers from different years, and I want to make sure I'm not over-engineering my record keeping. Also, has anyone had experience with what happens if you accidentally claim a carryover amount incorrectly? Like if you use the wrong year's carryover first instead of following FIFO order? I'm paranoid about making a mistake that could trigger problems later.
I'm going through almost the exact same situation! Filed my amended 2022 return in June 2023 and it's been 10 months with no resolution. The "Where's My Amended Return" tool just shows "received" with no processing date. I've called three times and each representative gives me different information - one said 20 weeks, another said they're "working on 2023 returns from early in the year," and the last one couldn't even locate my return in their system initially. The inconsistency is maddening. I'm owed a significant refund due to overlooked medical expenses, and at this point I'm wondering if I should contact my representative or try the taxpayer advocate route. It's reassuring to know others are experiencing the same delays, but frustrating that there seems to be no clear timeline or accountability.
I'm in almost the identical situation as you and Isabella! Filed my amended 2022 return in July 2023 for missed education credits and it's been radio silence ever since. The "Where's My Amended Return" tool is basically useless - just says "received" like yours. I've called twice and got completely different stories each time. First agent said 16-20 weeks, second one couldn't even find my return initially and then said they're "extremely backlogged." What's really frustrating is that my original return was processed lightning fast in 2023, but the amendment seems to have disappeared into a black hole. I'm seriously considering the taxpayer advocate route too - at least then we'd have someone specifically assigned to track our cases instead of playing phone roulette with different representatives who clearly don't have access to the same information.
I'm in a very similar situation and it's incredibly frustrating. Filed my amended 2022 return in March 2023 (so about 13 months ago now) and I'm still waiting. The worst part is the complete lack of transparency - every time I call, I get a different story about processing times and where my return is in the queue. What really bothers me is that they can take your money immediately if you owe them, but when they owe you, it's somehow acceptable to wait over a year with no real explanation. I've been considering filing a complaint with the Taxpayer Advocate Service because this feels unreasonable at this point. The financial impact of waiting this long for a legitimate refund is real - some people are counting on that money for important expenses. Has anyone here had success with the Taxpayer Advocate Service for amended return delays? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort or if they'll just tell me to keep waiting like everyone else.
I'm dealing with this exact same nightmare! Filed my amended return in August 2023 and it's been 8 months of absolutely nothing. What kills me is exactly what you said - they'll garnish wages instantly if you owe them, but somehow when it's the other way around, we're supposed to be patient indefinitely? I actually did contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service last month through their online portal. They assigned me a case advocate who at least acknowledged that 8+ months is unreasonable. She couldn't give me a firm timeline, but she did confirm my return wasn't "lost" and that it's sitting in what she called a "manual review queue." The advocate said she'd follow up in 30 days if there's no movement. It's only been 3 weeks since then, so I can't say if it actually helps yet, but at least someone with authority is now tracking my case instead of me calling the general line and getting different answers every time. Definitely worth trying - at minimum, you'll have documentation that you've escalated it properly.
I think everyone here is overthinking this. It's only $450 - the IRS isn't going to come after you for such a small amount even if you put it in the wrong spot. I've gotten tons of these bonuses over the years and just put them as "other income" and never had an issue.
Bad advice. The IRS absolutely cares about correctly reported income regardless of amount. They may not audit over $450, but establishing a pattern of incorrectly reporting income is not a good idea. Plus, OP clearly wants to do it right - which is commendable.
As someone who's dealt with this exact situation multiple times, I can confirm that Schedule 1, Line 8 as "Other Income" is absolutely the correct approach for bank bonuses under $600 without a 1099. One additional tip that helped me: when you describe it on the form, be specific about what type of bonus it was. I use descriptions like "Checking Account Opening Bonus - [Bank Name]" which makes it clear to anyone reviewing your return that this was a legitimate promotional incentive, not some other type of income you're trying to categorize. Also, don't worry about the relatively small amount - the IRS actually appreciates when taxpayers proactively report income that doesn't come with tax forms. It shows good faith compliance, and you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do under tax law. Keep that bank statement showing the deposit and any promotional materials about the bonus offer for your records.
Has anyone considered the electric vehicle tax credits? We're looking at the Ford F-150 Lightning for our business and there seem to be additional incentives beyond Section 179.
Yes! We just went through this decision. The commercial clean vehicle credit (IRC 45W) can be up to $7,500 for vehicles under 14,000 lbs. This is ON TOP OF Section 179. Made our purchase decision much easier.
Great discussion here! As someone who just went through this exact decision with my consulting firm, I wanted to add a few practical considerations that helped me decide. First, don't forget about the timing of when you place the vehicle in service for Section 179 purposes. If you're already late in the tax year and your profits are lower this year but projected to be higher next year, it might make sense to delay taking delivery until January to maximize the deduction's value. Second, consider your state tax implications too. Some states don't conform to federal Section 179 rules, so you might not get the same benefit at the state level. In our case, we're in a state that caps Section 179 much lower than federal, which made leasing more attractive. Finally, if you're planning any major equipment purchases in the next few years, remember that Section 179 has an overall annual limit ($1.16M for 2023). If you're going to hit that cap anyway with other purchases, the immediate deduction advantage of buying vs leasing becomes less important. We ended up leasing because our growth trajectory meant we'd benefit more from the consistent deductions over time, plus we wanted the flexibility to upgrade to newer technology in a few years without dealing with resale.
Freya Pedersen
Same here from NJ - filed mid-February and still stuck on "return received" š¤ Starting to wonder if I should just expect it sometime next year at this rate. The whole system feels like it's running on dial-up internet from 2005
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Issac Nightingale
ā¢Ugh tell me about it! I'm also NJ and filed in early Feb - same "return received" status for weeks now. It's so frustrating especially when you need that refund money. At least we're not alone in this mess I guess? š©
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Keith Davidson
NJ filer here too and honestly this whole situation is a nightmare. Filed in late January and I'm still showing "return received" with zero movement. At this point I've given up checking daily because it just makes me more frustrated. The worst part is not knowing if there's actually an issue or if it's just the normal backlog everyone keeps talking about.
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Sophia Gabriel
ā¢I feel your pain! Same exact situation here - NJ filer, early Feb, stuck on "return received" forever. The not knowing part is definitely the worst. I've been thinking about trying that taxr.ai thing people mentioned to at least see if there are any issues I'm not aware of. This whole process has been such a mess this year š¤
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