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Logan Stewart

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The banking community has been shifting toward early deposits as a competitive feature. Online banks like Chime and SoFi have been doing this for years, advertising "get paid up to 2 days early" with direct deposits. Traditional banks like Chase are finally catching up. Unlike payroll which follows a predictable schedule, tax refunds come in batches from the Treasury, so the timing can vary. Compared to previous tax seasons, the IRS seems to be processing returns more efficiently this year despite the initial delays in January.

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Vera Visnjic

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This is really interesting timing! I'm a newcomer here but have been dealing with similar confusion. My Chase account also got an early deposit this week - was expecting it on 4/26 based on WMR but it showed up on 4/23. I've been with Chase for about 3 years and this is definitely the first time they've deposited early. It's actually causing me some stress because I had automatic bill payments scheduled based on the original date, and now I'm worried about potential overdrafts if I miscalculated. Has anyone else had issues with their budgeting because of these unexpected early deposits? I'm wondering if I should call Chase to understand their new policy better.

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Welcome to the community! I totally understand your stress about the timing changes - it's really frustrating when banks change policies without clear communication to customers. You're definitely not alone in this experience. I'd suggest calling Chase customer service to get clarification on their new early deposit policy, and maybe consider setting up account alerts so you get notifications when deposits hit. That way you can adjust your automatic payments accordingly. It might also be worth keeping a small buffer in your checking account during tax season going forward since it sounds like this early deposit thing might be their new normal. Hope this helps ease some of the worry!

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Ruby Garcia

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This is such a common source of confusion for new employees! I remember being totally lost when I got my first real paycheck. Just to add to what others have said - FED MWT EE is your federal income tax withholding, and the amount depends on what you put on your W-4 form when you started. One thing that helped me was keeping my first few paystubs and comparing them to make sure the deductions stayed consistent. Sometimes payroll makes mistakes, especially in your first few pay periods while they're setting everything up in their system. Also, don't worry if the amount seems high - like others mentioned, if too much is being withheld, you'll get it back as a refund when you file your taxes. Better to have too much withheld than to owe a big payment in April!

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This is really great advice about keeping those first few paystubs to compare! I wish someone had told me that when I started my job. I actually noticed my state tax withholding was wrong on my third paycheck because I had been tracking it. HR fixed it right away once I brought it to their attention. Also totally agree about the refund thing - I used to think getting a big refund was like winning the lottery, but now I realize it just means I gave the government an interest-free loan all year. Much better to adjust your withholding and get that money in your regular paychecks instead.

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As someone who works in payroll processing, I can confirm that FED MWT EE is indeed Federal Withholding Tax for the Employee portion. The confusing part is that every payroll system seems to use slightly different abbreviations - I've seen FED W/H, FIT-EE, Fed Tax, and about a dozen other variations all referring to the same thing. One thing I'd add that others haven't mentioned - if this is your first job or you recently had a major life change (got married, had a kid, bought a house, etc.), you might want to review your W-4 after a few paychecks to make sure your withholding is on track. The IRS updated the W-4 form a few years ago to be more accurate, but it can still be tricky to get right. Also, keep in mind that your federal withholding will be higher in your first few paychecks of the year and then level out once you hit the Social Security wage base limit (around $160k for 2024). Just something to be aware of so you don't panic if you see variations throughout the year!

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Diego Vargas

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Thanks for the insider perspective! That's really helpful to know that the abbreviations vary so much between payroll systems - no wonder everyone gets confused. I had no idea about the Social Security wage base limit affecting withholding amounts throughout the year either. That's definitely something I'll keep an eye on. Quick question - when you mention reviewing the W-4 after major life changes, how soon should someone do that? Like if I just got married last month, should I update it right away or wait to see how a few paychecks look first?

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don't forget about the safe harbor rules that can help you avoid penalties: 1. If you pay 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k), you're safe from penalties regardless of your current year income 2. If you pay 90% of current year tax liability in equal installments, you're good 3. If you owe less than $1,000 after subtracting withholdings and credits, no penalty these saved me when my income jumped from like $90k to $250k last year lol

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Tate Jensen

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The 110% rule has been a lifesaver for me too. But quick correction - it's 110% if your AGI was over $150k for married filing jointly or $75k for single or married filing separately.

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Thanks for laying out those safe harbor rules! That 110% rule is really helpful to know. For someone like the OP with seven-figure income, paying 110% of last year's tax would definitely be the safest approach to avoid any penalty headaches. Much simpler than trying to perfectly time quarterly payments when income is unpredictable.

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Miguel Silva

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Another thing to consider with your seven-figure income is that you might want to work with a tax professional who specializes in high-income situations. The underpayment penalty calculations can get complex, especially when you're dealing with alternative minimum tax (AMT), which often kicks in at higher income levels. The AMT can significantly change your required quarterly payment amounts, and the standard safe harbor calculations might not account for this properly. A good tax pro can help you model different scenarios and potentially use strategies like the annualized income method even if it seems complicated - it might save you thousands in penalties. Also, since you mentioned substantial income, make sure you're considering estimated payments for any state taxes too. Some states have their own underpayment penalty rules that don't necessarily align with federal requirements.

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Liam Cortez

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Great point about working with a tax professional for high-income situations! I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed trying to navigate this on my own. Do you have any recommendations for finding someone who specializes in seven-figure income scenarios? I've been working with a regular CPA but I'm starting to think I need someone with more experience in this income range, especially with the AMT complications you mentioned. Also, you're absolutely right about state taxes - I completely forgot about those! My state does have its own estimated payment requirements and I have no idea if they align with federal timing or not.

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Hold on - nobody's talked about franchise taxes yet!! In my state (CA) we pay $800 minimum franchise tax for S-corps REGARDLESS of profit. Then there's a 1.5% tax on net income at the entity level PLUS you pay personal income tax on all passed-through profits. Don't assume your state only has the 2.5% rate you mentioned - there might be hidden fees, franchise taxes, or local business taxes you're not accounting for.

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Yep, CA resident here too and that $800 minimum franchise tax is killer for small S-corps. I actually created an LLC for my side business instead of an S-corp because the math worked out better for me with the LLC fee schedule vs the flat $800 for an S-corp. The state-level stuff is where all these "get an S-corp to save on taxes!" advice falls apart.

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Omar Zaki

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Great question! As others have mentioned, S-Corp taxation can be tricky at the state level. Here's what you need to know for your situation: Your $160k salary will definitely be subject to the 4.5% individual income tax rate since it's W-2 income. The $40k in business profits will also likely flow through to your personal return and be taxed at 4.5% as well - this is the main benefit of S-Corp pass-through taxation. However, don't assume that 2.5% corporate rate doesn't apply to you at all. Many states have: - Minimum franchise taxes or filing fees for S-Corps - Entity-level taxes on certain types of income - Local business taxes or licensing fees I'd strongly recommend checking with your state's tax department directly or consulting a local CPA who specializes in your state's tax code. Each state handles S-Corps differently, and some have unique rules that could impact your total tax liability. The federal pass-through treatment doesn't always translate perfectly to state level taxation. Also don't forget about the payroll tax savings on that $40k profit - that's one of the main reasons people choose S-Corp structure in the first place!

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Sasha Ivanov

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11 Has anyone successfully updated their W-4 to fix this? My HR department seems completely confused whenever I ask them about adjusting my withholding amount.

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Sasha Ivanov

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5 Yes! The trick is to use line 4(c) on the W-4 form. Don't try to adjust allowances (that system is gone) or explain why - just put the additional dollar amount you want withheld from each paycheck in that box. Your HR folks don't need to understand the tax logic, they just need to input that additional withholding amount.

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I feel your frustration! I went through the exact same thing two years ago and was livid about getting penalized for something that seemed like my employer's mistake. But after dealing with it, I learned that we really do need to monitor our withholding throughout the year. What helped me was setting up a simple spreadsheet to track my year-to-date withholding against what I expect to owe. I check it every quarter now. If you're consistently getting refunds, you're probably safe, but if you usually owe money at filing time, that's a red flag that you need more withheld. The penalty calculation is actually pretty forgiving - you only get hit if you owe more than $1,000 AND didn't pay at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax through withholding. So even if your employer messes up slightly, you might still avoid penalties. For next year, I'd recommend using the IRS withholding calculator around mid-year to see if you're on track. It's much better to catch this in July than in April!

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This is really helpful advice! I never thought about tracking withholding quarterly. Do you have a template for that spreadsheet you mentioned? I'm not great with Excel but this sounds like something I really need to set up to avoid this mess next year.

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