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Don't forget that you can also request "Account Transcripts" directly from the IRS which show your filing history for 940/941 forms. Many lenders will accept these official transcripts in place of the actual form copies. You can request them through the IRS website by creating an account at irs.gov/transcripts. The turnaround is usually 5-10 business days if you request them by mail, but if you have an IRS online account, you can often download them immediately.
This is a great suggestion! I've used the transcript service before and many lenders actually prefer these because they show proof that the forms were actually filed with the IRS, not just prepared. Especially for PPP verification, having documentation directly from the IRS can speed up approval.
Thanks for this suggestion! I looked into the transcript option and created an IRS online account. For business transcripts, it seems they still require a separate verification process that takes 5-10 days for approval. My deadline is tighter than that, but I'll keep this in mind for future reference. I ended up using a combination of approaches from this thread - I was able to find some of the forms through the File > Open Previous Company File method that Profile 8 suggested, and for the ones I couldn't locate, I used taxr.ai to regenerate them from my data. The lender accepted everything and our PPP application is now in processing!
Glad to hear you got everything sorted out! For anyone else facing similar time constraints with tax document retrieval, I'd recommend having multiple backup plans in place. One thing that's often overlooked is checking if your accountant or tax preparer has copies of these forms on file. Many CPA offices maintain client records for several years and can provide certified copies much faster than going through the IRS or trying to reconstruct them from your accounting software. Also, if you're using QuickBooks Desktop, make sure you're regularly backing up your company files with the year included in the filename (like "MyCompany_2022.qbw"). This makes it much easier to access historical data when situations like PPP documentation requests come up. The newer cloud-based versions handle this automatically, but desktop users need to be more proactive about maintaining these archives.
After dealing with the same issue (verified identity but blank transcripts), I finally found a solution that actually worked! I used taxr.ai to analyze what was going on behind the scenes. It showed me my exact processing stage even though my transcripts appeared blank, predicted when updates would happen, and explained why there was a delay. Sure enough, everything updated exactly when it predicted. Totally worth checking out: https://taxr.ai
It uses pattern recognition based on the response codes from the IRS systems - even when the visual transcript looks empty, there are underlying system markers that indicate where your return is in the process. It detected mine was in manual review even before I got the letter.
I went through this exact same situation last year! Verified my identity online and then had to wait what felt like forever for my transcripts to update. Mine took about 12 days after verification, but during that time I was checking obsessively (probably not helping my stress levels lol). One thing that helped me was realizing that the IRS systems don't communicate with each other in real time - so Where's My Refund might show one thing while your transcript shows another. The transcript system seems to be the slowest to update. Also, make sure you didn't miss any mail during this time. Sometimes they send additional requests or notices that can cause further delays. I almost missed a CP05 notice that would have extended my wait by weeks if I hadn't responded quickly. Hang in there - I know the waiting is brutal, especially when you filed so early and expected everything to be processed by now!
Has anyone used a registered agent service for their C Corp? I'm wondering if it's worth the $100-200/year for the privacy benefits and making sure I don't miss important tax notices. Also curious about business credit cards for new C Corps - most seem to require 2+ years in business.
I use Northwest Registered Agent for my C Corp - definitely worth it. They scan and email me everything the same day, and my home address isn't on public record. As for business credit, try American Express. They approved my C Corp for a business card after just 3 months with minimal revenue, just had to provide EIN and articles of incorporation.
For a new C Corp like yours that started operations in October 2024, you'll need to file Form 1120 by April 15, 2025 for that partial tax year - even though you only operated for a few months. The deadline is based on your tax year end (December 31st if you're using calendar year), not when you received your EIN. A few important things to keep in mind as you transition from self-employment to C Corp: 1. Make sure you're paying yourself a reasonable salary if you're working in the business - the IRS scrutinizes owner-employee compensation in C Corps much more than with sole proprietorships. 2. Keep detailed records of all transactions between you and the corporation. Any money you take out needs to be properly classified as salary, loan, or dividend. 3. Consider whether calendar year-end makes sense for your business cycle. Since this is your first return, you can still elect a fiscal year that better matches your operations without needing IRS approval. 4. Don't forget about state requirements - many states have minimum franchise taxes or other filing requirements for C Corps even in the first year. If you're feeling overwhelmed by the complexity compared to Schedule C, you're not alone. The corporate tax structure is definitely more involved, but the liability protection and potential tax benefits can make it worthwhile as your business grows.
This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation - just formed my C Corp last month and feeling overwhelmed by all the new requirements. Quick question: when you mention keeping detailed records of transactions between myself and the corporation, what's the best way to document this? Should I be creating formal loan agreements if I need to put personal money into the business, or is it sufficient to just track it in QuickBooks with proper account coding?
Great question! As others have mentioned, Section 179 absolutely applies to used equipment like your dump trailer. One thing I'd add is to make sure you document the business use percentage carefully. Since you mentioned this is for your landscaping LLC, you'll likely be at 100% business use, which is perfect. Also, consider timing - if you're planning to purchase near year-end, remember that Section 179 applies to the tax year when the equipment is "placed in service" (not just purchased). So if you buy it in December but don't start using it until January, it would apply to the following tax year. One more tip: keep detailed records of your business mileage and usage from day one. While you probably won't need it for the deduction itself, it's great documentation to have if you're ever audited. The IRS likes to see clear business purpose, especially for equipment that could potentially have personal use.
This is really solid advice about the "placed in service" timing! I hadn't thought about that distinction between purchase date and when you actually start using it for business. Since I'm looking at buying this trailer pretty soon, sounds like I should make sure to get it into service right away if I want the deduction for this tax year. Thanks for the mileage tracking tip too - better to have more documentation than not enough!
One thing to keep in mind with Section 179 is the business income limitation. You can only deduct up to your business's taxable income for the year. Since you mentioned your LLC was set up last year and business is picking up, just make sure you'll have enough business income to absorb the full $7,200 deduction. If your business income ends up being less than $7,200 this year, you can carry forward the unused portion to future years. But if you're expecting good income growth, taking the full deduction this year could be a great move to offset taxes on your increased revenue. Also, don't forget that the trailer needs to be used more than 50% for business to qualify for Section 179. For a landscaping company, that should be easy to meet, but it's worth documenting from the start just in case.
Giovanni Moretti
There's actually another strategy no one has mentioned yet - if you have self-employment income or active business income (not from the rental), you might be able to offset some of the gain by increasing retirement contributions in the year of sale. Maxing out a SEP IRA, Solo 401k, or defined benefit plan can create substantial deductions.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
ā¢But that would only help with regular income tax, right? Not the depreciation recapture tax specifically? My understanding is that retirement contributions don't directly offset capital gains or depreciation recapture.
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Anastasia Popov
Based on my experience dealing with similar depreciation recapture situations, I want to emphasize something important that wasn't fully covered - the timing of when you recognize your passive losses matters significantly. If you've been unable to use passive losses from your other rental property due to the passive activity loss limitations, those losses are "suspended" and carry forward. The key thing to understand is that when you dispose of your entire interest in a passive activity (like selling your rental property), ALL of your suspended passive losses from that specific property become fully deductible against any type of income - including active income, portfolio income, and yes, even depreciation recapture. However, suspended losses from OTHER properties you still own can only offset passive income, not the depreciation recapture. So if your current rental showing losses this year hasn't generated suspended losses yet, those current year losses likely won't help with your recapture tax. I'd strongly recommend reviewing your passive loss carryforwards from the property you're selling - you might have more tax relief available than you realize. The IRS Form 8582 from previous years will show your suspended losses by property.
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Aisha Patel
ā¢This is incredibly helpful information about suspended passive losses! I had no idea that disposing of your entire interest in a passive activity unlocks ALL the suspended losses from that specific property. @be1331d5dda7 When you mention reviewing Form 8582 from previous years, how far back should someone typically look? I've owned my rental for 8 years and I'm wondering if I might have suspended losses from the early years that I've forgotten about, especially during periods when the property wasn't cash flowing well. Also, does this "entire interest disposal" rule apply if you sell the property but still own the land separately, or does it have to be a complete sale of both the building and land together?
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