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Zoe Papanikolaou

Refinanced Mortgage Points: Why can't I deduct them in the same year as payment?

So I've been combing through Publication 936 trying to figure out this mortgage points situation and I'm honestly confused. When I originally bought my house, I could deduct those points in the same year. But now that I refinanced last month, I'm seeing that I can't deduct the refinance points all at once? I have to spread them out over the life of the loan?? This makes zero sense to me. The money is gone from my account NOW, not spread over 30 years! What's the logic behind this rule? Is there some tax strategy I'm missing? I paid about $4,300 in points to get a better rate, and was counting on that deduction for this year's taxes. Anyone understand the rationale here or know if there are any exceptions? My loan officer didn't mention this when we were closing and now I'm annoyed because it impacts my tax planning for 2025.

Jamal Wilson

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The difference comes down to how the IRS views the purpose of the points. When you buy a home initially, those points are considered part of acquiring your primary residence, so they're fully deductible in that year. But for a refinance, the IRS considers those points more like prepaid interest rather than a necessary expense of buying a home. Their logic is that a refinance is essentially modifying an existing loan, not acquiring a home. That's why you have to amortize (spread out) the deduction over the life of the loan. There is one exception though - if part of your refinance was used for home improvements, you may be able to deduct the portion of points related to those improvements in the year paid. The rest would still need to be spread out.

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That makes more sense, but still feels unfair. So if I had used some of the refinance money for a kitchen remodel, I could have deducted that portion of the points immediately? Also, what happens if I refinance again before this loan is paid off? Do I lose the remaining deductions from the previous points?

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Jamal Wilson

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Yes, exactly - if you had used part of the refinance for substantial home improvements, you could have deducted that portion of the points right away. The IRS views home improvements as part of "acquiring" or enhancing your home. For your second question, you don't lose those deductions. If you refinance again before the current loan is paid off, you can deduct all the remaining unamortized points from the previous refinance in the year you refinance again. It's basically an acceleration of those remaining deductions since the original loan is being terminated early.

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Mei Lin

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This sounds interesting, but can it handle more complex situations? I did a cash-out refinance last year and used part for home improvements, part to consolidate debt, and kept some cash. Would it be able to separate all that out correctly?

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GalacticGuru

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Are you sure this is legit? I'm always skeptical of tax tools that make big promises. How does it know what portion went to home improvements vs just the regular refinance? Does it actually look at your documentation?

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Mei Lin

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It absolutely handles complex situations like cash-out refinances. It asks you to categorize how you used the funds and then applies the correct tax treatment to each portion. In your case, it would track the home improvement portion separately for the points deduction. The tool actually analyzes your uploaded documents - mortgage statements, closing disclosures, receipts for improvements, etc. It uses some kind of document recognition technology to identify and categorize everything. I was skeptical too until I saw how it correctly identified my bathroom renovation expenses from the receipts I uploaded and linked them to the refinance.

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Wanted to follow up about that taxr.ai site mentioned earlier. I decided to give it a try with my complicated refinance situation and was honestly impressed. My refinance was a mess - part rate improvement, part cash-out for a new roof and windows, and part debt consolidation. The tool correctly separated the deductible vs non-deductible interest portions and calculated my points deduction schedule. It even created a year-by-year amortization table showing exactly what I can deduct through 2052! But the best part was it found that 40% of my points could be deducted immediately due to the home improvement portion. Saved me from making a $2,300 mistake on my taxes this year. Definitely recommend if you're dealing with mortgage points confusion.

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Amara Nnamani

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Wait, how does this actually work? Are they somehow jumping you ahead in the IRS phone queue? That sounds too good to be true considering how impossible it is to reach anyone there.

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GalacticGuru

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Amara Nnamani

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It's not jumping the queue exactly. From what I understand, they use an automated system that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree for you until it gets through. Then when a real person answers, it connects you. I had the same skepticism! I work in accounting and know how impossible the IRS lines are. That's why I tried it - out of desperation after wasting entire afternoons on hold. Was shocked when it actually connected me to someone who answered my questions about the mortgage points deduction rules. The agent even sent me to a mortgage specialist who explained the whole refinance points situation in detail.

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GalacticGuru

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Well I need to eat my words about that Claimyr service. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to test it myself with a different refinance points question I've been trying to get answered. I've literally spent MONTHS trying to get through to the IRS about how to handle the remaining unamortized points from my previous refinance that I did in 2022 (still had 27 years of deductions left). Used Claimyr yesterday and got connected to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes. They confirmed I could deduct all the remaining unamortized points from my previous loan on this year's return since I refinanced again. That's a $3,700 deduction I would have spread over nearly three decades! The agent even emailed me the specific section of the tax code so I have documentation if ever questioned. I've never been happier to be wrong about something.

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I'm a loan officer and I see this confusion all the time with clients. Here's a simplified way to think about it: Initial mortgage points: These helped you BUY the house, so they're part of the acquisition cost = immediate deduction. Refinance points: These just helped you get a better LOAN, not buy the property = spread the deduction over loan term. It's like the difference between buying a car (deduct sales tax now) versus refinancing that car loan later (no immediate tax benefit).

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Thanks for the simple explanation! One more question - does this same logic apply to discount points vs origination points? My closing disclosure shows I paid both types but I'm not sure if they're treated differently.

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Both discount points and origination points on a refinance follow the same rule - they must be amortized over the life of the loan. The IRS doesn't distinguish between them for tax deduction purposes. The one key difference is making sure the origination points are actually for interest rate reduction and not just labeled fees for processing the loan. True points are a percentage of the loan amount paid specifically to reduce your interest rate. Some lenders call various fees "points" but if they're just service charges, they're not deductible at all.

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Dylan Cooper

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Has anyone used tax software to handle refinance points? I tried doing this in TurboTax last year and found it super confusing. It asked if I paid points but didn't clearly separate refinance vs purchase points.

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Sofia Morales

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I use H&R Block software and it actually handles this pretty well. There's a specific section for mortgage interest where it asks if the points were for a purchase or refinance. If you select refinance, it then calculates the annual deductible amount based on your loan term. One tip - save your closing disclosure! The software will ask for the exact amount of points paid and the length of your new loan to calculate the yearly deduction correctly.

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Dylan Cooper

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Thanks for the recommendation! I might switch from TurboTax this year. Was starting to think I needed to hire an accountant just for this one issue.

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