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Yuki Ito

1098 Form Missing Points Paid - What to Do When Closing Disclosure Shows Points But 1098 Doesn't?

I feel kinda silly asking this since I'm actually decent at auditing, but completely clueless when it comes to personal taxes. My husband and I purchased our first home in August last year. We decided to pay around $4,500 in points to get a better interest rate on our mortgage. The timing was a bit weird - we closed mid-month, and before our first payment was even due (October 1st), our mortgage got sold to another bank in early September. Here's my problem: I just received the 1098 form from the bank that BOUGHT our mortgage, and box 6 (points paid) is completely empty. Our closing disclosure clearly shows we paid these points, but it's not reflected on the 1098. Do I need to contact the original mortgage company for an updated 1098, or does the new bank not have to include the points because they didn't originate our loan? I'm not sure how to properly claim these points on our taxes since the documentation doesn't match up. Any help would be really appreciated! Tax season is already stressful enough without this confusion.

Carmen Lopez

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You're definitely not the first person to run into this issue! When a mortgage is sold, the information about points sometimes doesn't transfer properly to the new servicer. The mortgage company that ORIGINATED your loan is the one responsible for reporting the points you paid at closing, not the company that bought your mortgage. This is because the points were paid as part of the closing process with the original lender. You should contact your original mortgage lender and request a corrected 1098 that properly shows the points paid in Box 6. They are required to provide this documentation since you paid the points to them. Make sure to have your closing disclosure handy when you call as evidence of the points payment. If they give you any pushback, reference IRS Publication 936 which covers home mortgage interest deductions, including points. Points are generally deductible in the year paid for a primary residence purchase if they meet certain criteria.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for explaining this! I'm wondering - what if the original lender refuses to provide an updated 1098 or is difficult to reach? Can you still claim the points deduction using just your closing disclosure as proof?

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Carmen Lopez

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Yes, you can still claim the points deduction using your closing disclosure as supporting documentation, even if you can't get an updated 1098. The closing disclosure is an official document that clearly shows the points you paid, and you should keep it with your tax records. If the original lender is being difficult, you might want to file IRS Form 4852 (Substitute for Form 1098) which allows you to report the information yourself when a required form hasn't been provided or contains incorrect information. Just make sure you have documentation to back up your claim in case of an audit.

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How exactly does this work? Do you just upload PDFs of your documents or what? I'm dealing with a similar situation but with property taxes that weren't included on my 1098 even though they were paid at closing.

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Jamal Wilson

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Mei Lin

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Wait, I don't understand... how does this actually work? Do they have special access to these companies or something? I've been trying to reach my mortgage servicer for 2 weeks about a similar issue.

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Something similar happened to me last year! What I ended up doing was claiming the points deduction based on my closing disclosure, and then I attached a note explaining the situation with a copy of the closing disclosure to my tax return. My return was accepted without any issues. The closing disclosure is an official document showing you paid the points, so it should be sufficient backup if you're ever audited. Just make sure you keep good records.

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NebulaNinja

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Did you need to file any additional forms when you claimed the points without having them on your 1098? I'm in the same boat and trying to figure out if I need to do anything special or if I can just include the points amount on Schedule A.

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I didn't need to file any additional forms - I just included the points on Schedule A with my mortgage interest deduction. I wrote in the total that included both the mortgage interest from the 1098 plus the points from my closing disclosure. When e-filing, there was a place to note discrepancies, and I explained briefly that the points were paid at closing but not reflected on the 1098 due to the loan being sold. If you're filing by paper, you could include a brief statement explaining the same thing. The key is having that closing disclosure saved in case of questions later.

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One important thing to consider - make sure the points you paid are actually deductible in the current year! Not all "points" on a closing disclosure qualify for an immediate tax deduction. For a primary residence purchase, points are usually fully deductible in the year paid. But if it's a refinance, points generally have to be deducted over the life of the loan. Also, some lenders call certain fees "points" on the closing disclosure when they're actually just fees that don't qualify as deductible points. Did your closing disclosure specifically call them "discount points" or something else?

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Yuki Ito

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They were definitely listed as "discount points" on our closing disclosure, and this was for a home purchase (our primary residence), not a refinance. So from what you're saying, they should be fully deductible this year, right?

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Yes, that's correct! Since they're specifically listed as "discount points" on your closing disclosure and this was for purchasing your primary residence, they should be fully deductible this year. Make sure to keep both your closing disclosure and any correspondence with your original lender about this issue for your records. It's rare, but if you're audited, you'll want to have clear documentation showing that these were legitimate discount points paid to reduce your interest rate on your primary residence purchase.

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Just wanted to add one more suggestion - check the IRS website for Publication 936 (Home Mortgage Interest Deduction). It has a whole section about points and when they're deductible. There's a list of tests that points must meet to be fully deductible in the year paid. For a primary residence purchase, they usually qualify, but it's good to double check. The tests include things like: - Points must be in line with what's normally charged in your area - Points must be computed as a percentage of the loan amount - You must use the cash method of accounting (most individuals do) The pub explains it all really clearly, and you can find it free on irs.gov. Wanted to mention this before you go paying for any services!

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I went through the exact same situation when I bought my house two years ago! My mortgage was sold before my first payment too, and the new servicer's 1098 was missing the points. Here's what worked for me: I called the original lender (the one who actually processed my closing) and explained that their 1098 reporting was incomplete since the loan was sold. They were actually pretty helpful once I got through to the right department - turns out this happens frequently when mortgages are sold quickly after closing. They issued a corrected 1098 within about 10 business days. The key is to have your loan number from the original lender (should be on your closing documents) and your closing disclosure showing the points payment. If for some reason you can't get the corrected 1098, you can absolutely still claim the deduction using your closing disclosure as supporting documentation. Just make sure to keep detailed records in case of any questions later. The closing disclosure is an official HUD document, so it carries a lot of weight as proof of what you actually paid. Don't stress too much about it - this is more common than you'd think with how often mortgages get sold these days!

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Lucas Lindsey

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This is really helpful! I'm curious - when you called the original lender, did you have to speak to a specific department or did regular customer service handle it? I'm dreading having to navigate through multiple transfers to find someone who actually understands this issue. Also, did they charge you anything for issuing the corrected 1098?

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Rudy Cenizo

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I actually work for a tax prep company and see this exact scenario multiple times every tax season! When mortgages are sold quickly after closing (especially before the first payment), the points reporting often gets lost in the shuffle between lenders. Here's the good news: you have several solid options. First, definitely try contacting the ORIGINAL lender who handled your closing - they're the ones responsible for reporting those points since you paid them at closing. Have your original loan number and closing disclosure ready when you call. If they're unresponsive or unhelpful, don't panic. Your closing disclosure is actually considered primary documentation by the IRS for points paid. You can claim the full $4,500 deduction on Schedule A using that document as support. Just make sure to keep detailed records and maybe include a brief note about the 1098 discrepancy when you file. Since this was for your primary residence purchase (not a refinance), the points should be fully deductible this year rather than amortized over the loan term. The fact that they're specifically listed as "discount points" on your closing disclosure makes this pretty straightforward. One tip: if you do get pushback from the original lender, mention that this is required tax reporting under IRS regulations - sometimes that gets you transferred to someone who actually knows what they're doing!

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