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Ally Tailer

Can I deduct mortgage points if paid using lender credit on my taxes?

So this is my first time ever buying a home and I'm trying to figure out the tax situation. I closed on a new construction in June and got a $21,500 lender credit as part of my mortgage deal. The thing is, I used that credit to pay for mortgage points - the settlement statement shows I paid $21,500 in points for my mortgage loan. Now I'm wondering how this works for tax deductions. Can I still claim the mortgage points as a tax deduction even though I technically paid for them using the lender credit? Or does the fact that I used "their money" mean I can't deduct it? The points definitely lowered my interest rate, which is good, but I want to make sure I'm doing my taxes right. I've tried reading the IRS publications but honestly I'm confused about whether points paid with lender credits qualify. Has anyone dealt with this before? Would love some advice before filing season comes around.

This is a great question about mortgage points! When you buy points to lower your interest rate, they're generally deductible as mortgage interest, but the source of the funds used to pay for them matters. Since you paid for the points using a lender credit, you actually can't deduct those points. The IRS views this as if the lender paid the points, not you. For a tax deduction to be valid, you need to pay the expense with your own funds. Think of it this way - you can't claim a deduction for something you didn't personally pay for out of pocket. It's similar to how you can't deduct charitable donations that someone else made in your name. The lender credit is essentially the lender covering that cost for you. If you had paid for some points with your own money and some with the lender credit, you could deduct the portion you personally paid for, but not the portion covered by the credit.

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Wait, what if the lender credit was actually negotiated as part of the loan terms? Like, couldn't you argue that the credit was effectively "your money" since you might have been able to negotiate a lower loan amount instead of the credit? Just trying to understand the distinction.

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That's a fair question. Even if the lender credit was negotiated as part of your loan terms, the IRS still considers it the lender's money, not yours. You could have negotiated a lower price or different terms, but the fact remains that you didn't pay for those points with your own funds. The IRS is very specific about this - you can only deduct expenses you actually paid. What typically happens with lender credits is that you accept a slightly higher interest rate in exchange for the credit, which is used to offset closing costs. So in essence, you're paying for it over time through the higher rate, but not upfront with your own funds, which is what would make it deductible in the year you purchased the home.

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Cass Green

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How accurate was this tool? I'm closing on a house next month and have a similar situation with lender credits. Did it flag anything else on your settlement statement that was or wasn't deductible that surprised you?

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Madison Tipne

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Sounds interesting but I'm always skeptical of these tax tools. Did you compare the results with what a real accountant would say? My experience is these automated systems miss nuances that a human tax pro would catch.

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Cass Green

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The tool was surprisingly accurate - it matched exactly what my accountant later confirmed. It correctly identified that my transfer taxes were deductible but my title insurance wasn't, which I didn't know beforehand. As for comparing it with a professional opinion, I actually did have my CPA review everything afterward, and he was impressed by how thorough the analysis was. He mentioned that the tool caught some nuances about mortgage insurance premiums that even some tax preparers miss. The real value was getting quick answers during tax season when my accountant was swamped with clients.

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Just wanted to follow up after using https://taxr.ai that was mentioned above. I was skeptical at first but decided to try it with my closing documents before my closing next month. The analysis was really detailed and showed me exactly which items would be deductible. For my situation, it confirmed that the $18,000 in points covered by my lender credit wouldn't be deductible, but it also identified about $3,500 in other closing costs that ARE deductible that I had no idea about! What I really appreciated was the explanation for each item - it didn't just tell me yes/no but explained the tax code reasoning behind each determination. Saved me from having an awkward conversation with my CPA about trying to deduct those points. Definitely worth checking out if you're in this situation.

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Kyle Wallace

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Ryder Ross

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Has anyone considered whether the lender credit could be viewed as a rebate or price adjustment rather than "the lender paying"? I'm thinking that if the credit was part of the negotiated rate, it's really just adjusting the effective price you're paying for the house. I read somewhere that if seller pays your points, those ARE deductible because they're considered part of the house purchase price. Wondering if there's an argument that lender credits could work the same way?

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I asked my tax guy about this exact thing last year. He said there's a specific difference - seller-paid points are considered adjustments to the purchase price (so buyer can deduct them), but lender credits are different because they're adjusting the loan terms, not the purchase price. He showed me IRS Publication 936 which apparently makes this distinction pretty clear. The source of the funds matters a lot for deductibility. Lender credits come from the lender, not the seller, so different rules apply.

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Ryder Ross

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Thanks for clarifying that. It seems like such a technical distinction, but I guess that's how tax law works! I see what you're saying about the lender credits being tied to the loan itself rather than the purchase price of the home. I suppose this is why so many people get confused about mortgage deductions. The rules are so specific about where the money comes from rather than just what it was used for. Really appreciate the explanation about Publication 936 - I'll check that out.

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Henry Delgado

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Curious for those who've dealt with this - is it worth paying points at all if you can't deduct them? I'm about to buy my first home and trying to decide if I should use my lender credit for points or for other closing costs that wouldn't be deductible anyway.

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Olivia Kay

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The deduction is just one factor to consider. I paid 2 points to lower my rate by 0.5% and even though I couldn't deduct them (used lender credit), the math still worked out in my favor. I'll break even in about 4 years and plan to stay in the home much longer. If you think you'll be in the house long-term, points can still make financial sense even without the tax deduction. But if you might move or refinance in 2-3 years, probably not worth it. Don't make the decision just based on tax implications!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was totally confused about the lender credit rules. What I'm still wondering about is the timing aspect - if I used some of my own cash AND some lender credit to pay for points, how do I figure out which portion is deductible? My settlement statement shows $15,000 in points total, but I had a $10,000 lender credit that covered part of it. So I effectively paid $5,000 out of pocket for points. Can I deduct that $5,000 portion, or does the fact that any lender credit was involved mean I can't deduct any of it? Also, does it matter how the lender credit is specifically allocated on the settlement statement? Like if the credit shows as covering other closing costs instead of the points directly, but the net effect is the same?

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