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Has anyone used MileIQ app for tracking? I've been using it for about 6 months and it automatically tracks my drives and lets me swipe left for personal or right for business. Wondering if the logs it generates are sufficient for tax purposes?
Great question! You're definitely on the right track with tracking both mileage and meals. Just wanted to add a few practical tips from someone who's been through several tax seasons with similar deductions: For your mileage log, what you're doing is solid, but consider adding the specific business purpose for each trip (like "client consultation," "project delivery," etc.). The IRS likes to see WHY the trip was necessary for business. Also, keep your odometer readings consistent - some people get tripped up by forgetting to record the ending mileage. One thing I learned the hard way: if you're meeting clients at restaurants, make sure you're actually discussing business during the meal. The IRS can be picky about meals that are purely social vs. those with a legitimate business purpose. I always jot a quick note on the receipt about what we discussed. Since you're new to this, consider setting up a simple system now - maybe a dedicated folder for receipts and a consistent format for your mileage log. It'll save you tons of time come tax season. And definitely keep everything for at least 3 years in case of an audit!
For anyone curious about the whole process, I just wanted to share that Michigan's energy draft system has been around for years and it's actually pretty reliable once you understand how it works. The reason they use these special drafts instead of regular checks or direct deposit is because it ensures the funds go specifically toward heating costs, which is the whole point of the Home Heating Credit program. One thing I learned from talking to my utility company rep is that they actually prefer these energy drafts over regular payments because they process them differently in their system - it shows up as a state assistance credit rather than a regular payment, which can be helpful for your account history if you ever need to reference it later. The 7-day window they give you is pretty accurate too - in my experience over the past few years, I've received mine anywhere from day 5 to day 7, never longer. If you're past day 10 and still haven't received anything, that's when I'd recommend calling the Michigan Treasury customer service line to check on it. Also worth noting that if you move before using your energy draft, you'll need to contact Michigan Treasury to get it reissued to your new address - they won't forward it through regular mail forwarding services since it's considered a financial instrument.
This is incredibly helpful information, especially the part about it showing up as state assistance credit rather than a regular payment! I had no idea that distinction existed but it makes total sense. Really appreciate you sharing the timeline details too - knowing that 5-7 days is normal but 10+ days means something's wrong gives me a good benchmark to work with. The info about moving and needing to contact Treasury directly is something I definitely wouldn't have thought of but could save someone a lot of headache down the road. Thanks for taking the time to share all these insights from your years of experience with the program! š
As a newcomer to this whole process, I just want to say how helpful this thread has been! I'm in a similar situation - my Home Heating Credit claim just switched to "completed" status yesterday (Feb 9th) with the same "energy draft issued" message. Reading through everyone's experiences has really put my mind at ease about what to expect. The timeline breakdown and practical tips like taking a photo of the draft before submitting it are exactly what I needed to know. It's also reassuring to hear that the portal not showing the dollar amount is totally normal - I was starting to worry there was some kind of error with my application. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences with this process. It's so much better than trying to decode the official government explanations! Now I know to watch for that plain white Treasury envelope in the next few days and have a good understanding of how to handle it when it arrives. This community is awesome for helping newcomers navigate these confusing systems! š
Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new to Michigan's tax system and was equally confused when I first saw that "energy draft" terminology. This thread has been such a lifesaver - I love how everyone here shares their actual experiences instead of just regurgitating the confusing official language. The photo tip and timeline expectations are game-changers! It's awesome to see how supportive this community is for folks trying to figure out these government processes. Hope your energy draft arrives right on schedule! š
Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for reporting Twitch income? TurboTax keeps trying to charge me for the self-employment version even though I just need to file a Schedule E for royalties.
I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year after getting fed up with TurboTax's pricing. It handles Schedule E just fine and actually has a specific section for royalty income. Saved like $90 compared to TurboTax's "self-employment" package which I didn't even need!
This is exactly the kind of confusion I had when I first started getting 1099s from my side income! The distinction between royalties and self-employment income is really important and can save you money. Just to add to what others have said - since you're operating at a net loss, make sure you keep detailed records of all your streaming-related expenses (equipment, software subscriptions, games, internet upgrades, etc.). Even though you're reporting on Schedule E for the royalty income, you can still deduct ordinary and necessary expenses against that income. Also, don't let TurboTax upsell you into the self-employment package if you don't need it! The basic version should handle Schedule E just fine. If your tax software is pushing you toward Schedule C, it's probably because it's seeing "1099" and assuming it's all self-employment income, but as others have explained, the 1099-MISC Box 2 royalties are different. One last tip - keep good documentation about the hobby vs. business question. The IRS looks at factors like whether you're trying to make a profit, how much time you spend on it, and whether you have the expertise to make it profitable. Since you mentioned you're still in the "costs money" phase, documenting your efforts to grow the channel and become profitable could be helpful if this ever comes up.
This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with streaming myself and had no idea about the hobby vs business distinction. How do you document your "efforts to grow the channel"? Like, do you need to keep a business plan or just general records of what you're doing to try to become profitable? I want to make sure I'm prepared in case the IRS ever questions whether this is a legitimate business activity.
Question for those who've filed late S corp elections - if I file Form 2553 now (August 2024) requesting an effective date of January 1, 2024, do I need to file my 2024 quarterly estimated tax payments based on S corp tax treatment or still as a single-member LLC until the election is approved?
You should continue filing your quarterly estimated taxes as if you're an S corporation (meaning employment tax deposits for your reasonable salary and estimated personal income tax for distributions) while waiting for approval. If for some reason your S corp election is denied, you'd need to correct everything later, but that's unlikely if you qualify for relief under Rev. Proc. 2013-30. Operating inconsistently with S corp status during the pending period could actually hurt your case for showing you intended to be treated as an S corp all along.
@Esteban Tate is absolutely right about continuing with S corp tax treatment while your election is pending. I made this mistake when I filed my late election - I kept making estimated payments as a single-member LLC just "to be safe and" the IRS actually questioned whether I was truly operating as an S corp during my reasonable cause review. Make sure you re'also keeping detailed records of your salary payments and distributions during this period. The IRS will want to see that you ve'been consistently treating yourself as an employee of the S corp, not just taking owner draws like you would with an LLC. This documentation becomes crucial if they scrutinize your election later.
I went through this exact situation last year and can confirm that the late S corp election relief is definitely available, but there are a few important details to get right that I wish someone had told me upfront. First, when you file Form 2553 for the late election, make sure you're requesting the effective date as January 1, 2024 (not your LLC formation date in September 2023). The S corp election can only be effective from the beginning of a tax year, so even though you formed the LLC in September 2023, your earliest possible S corp effective date would be January 1, 2024. Second, since you mentioned you've been paying yourself a reasonable salary and taking distributions, make sure you have all those payroll records organized. The IRS will want to see that you've been consistently operating as an S corp, including proper payroll tax withholdings and quarterly 941 filings. If you haven't been doing formal payroll with withholdings, you might want to get that straightened out before filing the election. The reasonable cause statement doesn't need to be overly complex - I kept mine to about 3-4 sentences explaining that I was unaware of the deadline and that my regular tax advisor was unavailable. The key is showing you had good faith intent to elect S corp status from the beginning of the tax year. One last tip: include copies of your LLC operating agreement and any documentation showing you intended S corp treatment (like board resolutions about salary, etc.) to strengthen your case. Good luck!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you @Sean O'Brien! I have a quick follow-up question about the payroll records you mentioned. I've been paying myself what I calculated as a reasonable salary ($4,500/month) but I haven't been doing formal payroll withholdings - I've just been setting aside money for taxes and planned to pay it all when I file. Will this be a problem for the late S corp election, or can I correct the payroll tax situation going forward while still getting approval for the January 1, 2024 effective date?
@Romeo Quest, the lack of formal payroll withholdings could potentially be an issue, but it's not necessarily a deal-breaker for your late S corp election. The IRS is primarily looking for evidence that you intended to operate as an S corp, and paying yourself a consistent reasonable salary is a good sign of that intent. However, you'll want to address the payroll tax situation quickly. You should file Form 941s for the quarters where you paid yourself salary but didn't withhold taxes, and you'll owe penalties and interest on the late payroll tax deposits. The good news is that you can often get penalty relief for reasonable cause on the payroll taxes too. I'd recommend getting a payroll service set up immediately and making sure you're doing proper withholdings going forward. When you file your S corp election, include documentation showing your salary payments and mention in your reasonable cause statement that you're correcting the payroll tax compliance issue. The IRS is generally understanding about administrative mistakes like this when you show good faith effort to comply correctly.
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I appreciate all the detailed responses here! Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like filing 2023 first is definitely the safer approach. The technical point about prior year AGI verification for e-filing is particularly compelling - I'd rather not deal with rejection codes and delays. One follow-up question: since my 2023 return is now quite late, should I expect any specific complications during processing? I'm wondering if late-filed returns get flagged for additional review or if they generally process at the same speed as on-time filings. Also, given that I mentioned having investment gains, are there any special considerations for capital gains reporting on late-filed returns that I should be aware of? Thanks again for all the guidance - this community has been incredibly helpful!
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Mikayla Davison
ā¢Welcome to the community! Regarding processing times for late-filed returns, in my experience they typically don't take longer than normal returns unless there are specific issues that trigger manual review. However, since you mentioned investment gains, be extra careful with your Form 8949 and Schedule D - make sure all your basis calculations are accurate and you have proper documentation. The IRS tends to scrutinize capital gains more closely, especially on late filings. Also, double-check that you're reporting all 1099-B forms correctly since brokerages would have already sent copies to the IRS. Missing or incorrect investment income reporting is one of the most common triggers for correspondence audits.
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GalaxyGlider
As a newcomer here, I want to echo what others have said about filing 2023 first, but also share a practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation. When you do file your 2023 return, consider using certified mail if you're paper filing, or keep detailed records if e-filing. Since it's late, having proof of submission date can be crucial if any questions arise later. Also, if you owe money on the 2023 return, you might want to pay any taxes due immediately when filing to minimize additional interest charges. The IRS continues to charge interest on unpaid balances even after you file the return. I learned this the hard way when I delayed both filing AND payment - the interest really adds up over time!
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NeonNebula
ā¢Great advice about certified mail and keeping detailed records! As someone new to this community, I'd also suggest setting up an IRS online account if you haven't already - it's really helpful for tracking the status of your returns once they're submitted. You can see when they receive it, when it's processed, and if there are any issues. Since you're dealing with a late filing situation, having that visibility into the process can give you peace of mind. Also, regarding the interest charges you mentioned - that's such an important point that often gets overlooked. Even a few months of delay can result in surprisingly high interest fees, especially on larger tax bills from investment gains.
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