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TurboTax Fee Deduction - Where Do They Take Money Before Bank Deposit?

I've been using TurboTax for a few years but I'm confused about how they're taking their fees this time. I selected the option to pay the TurboTax fees from my refund instead of using my credit card upfront. Now I'm wondering exactly where that money comes out before it hits my bank account. Does TurboTax create some kind of temporary account? I want to make sure I understand the whole process since my refund is pretty significant this year and I need to know exactly when and how much will actually deposit. Has anyone gone through this process recently with the 2023 taxes?

I believe I can share a specific example that might help illustrate the process. When I filed through TurboTax in February, my total refund was approximately $3,200. I chose to have my TurboTax fees ($89 for Deluxe) deducted from my refund. The IRS approved my return on February 12th and issued the full $3,200 to the temporary account at Santa Barbara Tax Products Group. From there, SBTPG took the $89 TurboTax fee plus their own $39 processing fee, leaving $3,072 which was deposited to my bank account on February 15th. The deposit showed as "SBTPG LLC TAX REFUND" on my bank statement, not from the IRS directly. You can actually track this whole process on the SBTPG website if you create an account.

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This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea the deposit would show up from SBTPG rather than the IRS. That explains why I couldn't find anything when I was searching for IRS deposits in my transaction history from last year.

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Thanks for the real numbers. That $39 fee seems high just to take payment from your refund. Almost 30% extra on top of the TurboTax cost.

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm in the exact same situation as Maria - chose to pay TurboTax fees from my refund and was confused about the process. Based on everyone's explanations, it sounds like the key things to know are: 1) Your refund goes to SBTPG first, not directly to your bank, 2) They deduct TurboTax fees PLUS an additional $39 processing fee, 3) This adds 2-5 business days to your timeline, and 4) You can track the process on the SBTPG website. I wish TurboTax made this clearer upfront, but at least now I know what to expect when my refund comes through!

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How to fill out Form 1099-SA for my HSA account? Confused about entries

I recently switched jobs and had an HSA through my previous employer, so now I need to fill out this Form 1099-SA myself. I'm completely lost on how to do it properly. For the "Payer Name" field - I'm assuming that's me since I'm filling it out? But I'm not sure. Can someone explain what "Gross Distribution" means on this form? And what about "Earnings on Excess Contributions"? I have no idea what to put for these. I have my W-2 from my previous job with information in boxes 12a (W) and 12b (DD). Will that be enough for me to complete the 1099-SA correctly? I'm really stressed about getting this right since I'm between jobs right now. Been waiting for this form to come in the mail for almost a month, but nothing yet. I need to file ASAP since I'm currently applying for unemployment benefits and food assistance. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I went through this exact issue last month! Don't panic about the 1099-SA. Here's what I learned - the HSA contribution limits for 2025 are $4,150 for individual coverage and $8,300 for family coverage. If you're over 55, you can add an extra $1,000 catch-up contribution. Make sure your combined contributions (yours + employer's) shown in W-2 boxes 12a and 12b don't exceed these limits. If they do, that's where the "Earnings on Excess Contributions" might come into play. One thing that tripped me up: you need Form 8889 to report both HSA contributions AND distributions. The 1099-SA info goes on this form, not directly on your 1040. Most tax software walks you through this pretty well once you have all your forms.

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Thank you for this info! I don't think I exceeded any contribution limits since I only had the HSA for part of the year before I lost my job. But I didn't realize I needed Form 8889. Is that something I need to download separately or will tax software include it automatically? Also, if I'm filing in early 2025 for my 2024 taxes, which year's contribution limits apply?

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If you're using tax software like TurboTax, H&R Block, or even the free filing options, Form 8889 will be included automatically when you enter your HSA information. The software will generate it for you based on the information you provide about your HSA contributions and distributions. For taxes you're filing in early 2025 (for the 2024 tax year), you'd use the 2024 HSA contribution limits, which are $4,150 for individual coverage and $8,300 for family coverage. The limits I mentioned apply to the calendar year when the contributions were made, not when you're filing. Since you only had the HSA for part of the year, your personal contribution limit would be prorated based on how many months you were eligible.

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Hey Zoe! I went through this exact same situation when I switched jobs last year. The good news is that once you get your 1099-SA from your HSA provider, it's actually pretty straightforward to handle on your tax return. Since you mentioned you're between jobs and need to file ASAP, here's what I'd recommend: Log into your HSA provider's website immediately and look for a "Tax Documents" or "Forms" section. Most providers have 2024 tax forms available online already. If you can't find it or don't have online access, call them directly and explain your urgent financial situation - they're usually pretty helpful when you mention you need it for unemployment/assistance applications. One thing that really helped me was keeping track of exactly what each HSA withdrawal was for. Since you mentioned $780 for doctor visits and prescriptions, make sure you have receipts or documentation for those expenses. When you file, you'll report these as qualified medical expenses on Form 8889, which means they won't be taxable income. The process is much less scary than it seems once you have the right forms! The 1099-SA will show your total distributions in Box 1, and you'll use Form 8889 to show they were for qualified medical expenses. Most tax software walks you through this step by step. Hang in there - you've got this!

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Is there a limit on Roth IRA conversion amounts in 2025?

I'm trying to understand if there's any limit on how much I can convert from Traditional IRA to Roth IRA in a single year. Here's my specific situation: For 2024, I'm planning to make my full $7000 contribution to my Traditional IRA (I'm under 50). Then I want to make my $7500 contribution for 2025 in January 2025, giving me a total of $14,500 in my Traditional IRA. My question is: **Can I convert the entire $14,500 to Roth IRA during 2025?** Some background - my Traditional IRA contributions are after-tax (not deductible) because I have an employer 401k plan. There's basically no growth in the account since I don't use it for investing - I only use it as a vehicle for Roth conversions. I'm trying to maximize my Roth savings through the backdoor method. Has anyone done this before? Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Thanks in advance for any guidance!

Just adding another perspective - while there's no limit on how MUCH you can convert from Traditional to Roth IRA, be careful about tax brackets when converting large amounts. Converting $14,500 might not push you into the next tax bracket, but larger amounts could. I converted $52,000 last year and it bumped me into a higher tax bracket, which I wasn't prepared for. Now I spread conversions across multiple years to manage the tax hit better.

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How do you decide how much to convert each year? Is there some calculation or tool you use to figure out the optimal amount without jumping tax brackets?

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I look at my projected income for the year and estimate how much room I have left in my current tax bracket. For example, if the 22% bracket goes up to $95,375 (for single filers in 2025) and my income is around $75,000, I might convert about $20,000 to "fill up" that bracket without spilling into the 24% bracket. I use the tax estimator on my tax software to run different scenarios and see the impact. Some years I convert less if I expect bonuses or other income that might push me higher. The key is planning ahead and being strategic rather than just converting everything at once.

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Watch out for something called the "five-year rule" with Roth conversions! After you convert, you need to wait 5 tax years before withdrawing the CONVERTED AMOUNTS (not the earnings) penalty-free if you're under 59Β½. This tripped me up badly.

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I think you're confusing two different five-year rules. For conversions, the five-year rule only applies to avoiding the 10% penalty if you're under 59Β½. Each conversion has its own 5-year clock. But for contributions, there's a separate five-year rule for tax-free earnings. The original contribution amounts can always be withdrawn tax and penalty free.

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You're absolutely right about there being multiple five-year rules - it gets confusing! Just to clarify for anyone following along: the five-year rule Diego mentioned does apply to converted amounts if you're under 59Β½ and want to withdraw them penalty-free. Each conversion starts its own five-year clock from January 1st of the conversion year. But like CosmicCruiser said, your original Roth IRA contributions (not conversions) can always be withdrawn tax and penalty-free at any time since you already paid taxes on that money. The five-year rule for earnings withdrawals is separate from the conversion rule. For the OP's backdoor Roth strategy, this probably won't matter much since they're likely keeping the money invested long-term, but it's good to know the rules!

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CreditKarma Tax DDD 2/12 - Anyone get their refund early? (With/Without Fees)

Got my DDD of 2/12 and used Credit Karma. Anyone who got their refund already - when did it hit your account? Did you have fees taken out or not? Just trying to figure out when I might see mine drop.

I swear watching these deposits is worse than tracking a package lmaooo refreshing my account every 5 mins

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mood πŸ˜‚ my thumb getting tired from pulling down to refresh

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Same boat here! DDD 2/12 with Credit Karma and had fees taken out. Based on what everyone's saying, sounds like we should see it hit tomorrow or Thursday at the latest. The waiting game is brutal though - definitely feels like Christmas morning as a kid πŸ˜…

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SBTPG Direct Deposit Trace Numbers - Anyone Received Updates Today?

Per IRS Publication 1219, Section 4.3.2, financial institutions are required to provide trace numbers when processing tax refund direct deposits. I've been monitoring my SBTPG (Santa Barbara Tax Products Group) account daily since my return was accepted on March 3rd, but still no trace number showing in my account. According to the Direct Deposit Authorization Agreement, these should be visible within 24-48 hours of processing. Has anyone with SBTPG received their trace number today? I'm trying to determine if this is a systemic delay or if I need to take additional steps. I have three dependents and need to plan accordingly for upcoming expenses.

Got my trace # this AM! Filed 2/15, accepted same day, 846 code on 3/1, SBTPG got it 3/5, trace showed up today 3/7. BTW if ur using the app vs website they show diff info sometimes. App showed nothing but website had my trace when I checked. Might wanna try both if ur waiting. GL everyone!

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The SBTPG system typically processes in waves throughout the day. Many users report seeing updates around 6am, 2pm, and 10pm Eastern time. These correspond to their internal batch processing schedule. While individual experiences may vary, checking during these windows may yield more timely information. Additionally, their system maintenance occurs on Sundays from 12am-4am ET, which can sometimes result in Monday morning having the largest number of trace number updates.

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I'm in the exact same situation! Filed on 3/2, accepted 3/3, got my 846 code on 3/5, but still no trace number from SBTPG. I've been checking both their website and app multiple times daily (thanks Gabriel Freeman for that tip - didn't know they could show different info!). Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like we're in the normal range for this year's delays. I'm going to try calling that direct number Debra Bai mentioned (800-901-6663, option 2, then option 4) if I don't see anything by Monday. It's reassuring to know I'm not alone in this waiting game. Will update if I get any movement on my trace number!

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