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How to claim AMT credit from previous ISO exercises using TurboTax, TaxSlayer, or other software? [Advice needed]

I've been wrestling with this Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) situation and need some guidance. Last year, I exercised some Incentive Stock Options (ISOs) and ended up paying around $2,300 in AMT when I filed my 2022 taxes with TurboTax (had to fill out Form 6251). From what I understand, I should be able to carry forward this AMT payment as a credit for future years when my regular income tax exceeds my AMT calculation. Problem is, I exercised more ISOs this year too, so I'm still in AMT territory for my 2023 taxes. My question is: do I still need to file Form 8801 to carry-forward last year's AMT payment as a future credit, even though I can't use it this year? I'm using TurboTax again but can't seem to find where to access Form 8801. I saw on TaxSlayer's FAQ that you should file Form 8801 even if you can't claim the credit yet, just to carry it forward. Should I switch to TaxSlayer? I tried FreeTaxUSA but they didn't have options for ISOs and AMT calculations. I originally went with TurboTax Premier because it handled ISO exercises and AMT calculations last year. To give a concrete example: Let's say I paid $2,300 in AMT for 2022, expect to pay $2,500 this year for 2023, and anticipate another $2,300 next year for 2024 (for ISOs I'll exercise this year). Then in 2025, if I don't have any AMT, that should be $7,100 in potential credits I could apply, right? I'm thinking of recalculating things around Q3 this year and maybe setting aside extra money so that even with ISO exercises, I cover anticipated AMT. Would this allow me to claim the previous AMT credits for next year's taxes? Any advice would be super helpful, thanks!

One strategy that helped me deal with AMT from ISOs: If you're expecting to be in AMT for several consecutive years, consider exercising and holding ISOs in the HIGHEST AMT year, then doing disqualifying dispositions (immediately selling) in other years. This maximizes the value of your AMT credits when you can finally use them. For your specific question about TurboTax vs TaxSlayer - I've used both, and TurboTax Premier definitely does support Form 8801, it's just not obvious. TaxSlayer's interface makes it a bit easier to find the AMT credit forms in my experience. Also don't forget that keeping perfect records is crucial. Document every ISO transaction, your basis calculations, and keep copies of all AMT-related forms (6251, 8801) from every year. You might need these records for a decade or more until you finally use all your credits!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar ISO/AMT situation but have an additional complication - I moved states between tax years. Does anyone know how state AMT credits work when you relocate? I paid AMT in California last year due to ISO exercises, but now I'm a Texas resident (no state income tax). Will I still be able to claim the California AMT credit if I exercise more ISOs this year as a Texas resident? Or do I need to file something special with California to maintain those credits? The federal AMT credit carryforward seems straightforward based on everyone's advice here, but I'm completely lost on the state piece. My CPA moved to a different firm and I haven't been able to get clear guidance on this.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for a situation like this? I moved from Michigan to Ohio in August and I'm wondering if it's worth paying for TurboTax Deluxe to handle the multiple state returns or if I should just go to a tax professional this year?

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear. Did it cost extra for the additional state return, or was it all included in the Deluxe package price?

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Nia Williams

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Each state return typically costs extra - I think it was around $50 per state when I used TurboTax. So with two states, you're looking at about $100 extra on top of the base package. If your situation is straightforward (just W-2 income and standard deductions), it might be worth it for the convenience. But if you have more complex income sources or deductions, a tax professional might actually be more cost-effective and give you more peace of mind.

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I went through this exact situation when I moved from Texas to California mid-year. You definitely cannot just file in one state - each state wants their share of taxes for the period you were a resident there. Even though it seems like extra paperwork, filing as a part-year resident in both states is the only legitimate option. The good news is that most tax software makes this pretty straightforward these days. You'll need to determine your residency dates for each state (sounds like you have clear move dates) and allocate your income accordingly. Since you worked remotely, you'll owe Nebraska taxes on income earned while living there from January through early June, and Colorado taxes on income earned from June onward. Don't try to skip filing in Nebraska - state tax authorities are pretty good at cross-referencing federal returns and W-2 information. It's better to deal with the minor hassle now than face penalties and interest later.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you allocate income between Texas and California, how exactly do you calculate the split? Do you just divide your annual salary by 12 months and multiply by the number of months in each state, or is it more complicated than that? I'm worried about getting the math wrong and having one of the states come after me for underpayment.

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Miguel Ramos

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact of state disability insurance (SDI) and other payroll taxes for remote workers. Even if you don't owe income tax to a state, you might still be subject to their payroll taxes if your employer is based there. For example, California has SDI tax that applies to all wages paid by California employers, regardless of where the work is performed. This is separate from income tax obligations. Similarly, some states have unemployment insurance requirements that follow the employer's location rather than where you work. I learned this the hard way when I discovered I owed California SDI tax even though I successfully argued I didn't owe California income tax as a remote worker. The rules are completely different and it's easy to overlook. If you're dealing with multi-state issues, make sure to research both income tax AND payroll tax obligations separately. Your payroll department might not be handling this correctly either - I've seen cases where employers weren't withholding required SDI but were withholding income tax they shouldn't have been. Also worth noting: some states are starting to require quarterly estimated payments for remote workers, especially if you're classified as an independent contractor rather than an employee. The requirements can be quite different from your home state's rules.

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Mia Roberts

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This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I had no idea about the SDI requirements being separate from income tax. Just to clarify - if you're working remotely for a California employer but living in another state, you're saying you might still owe California SDI even if you successfully establish that your income isn't California-sourced for income tax purposes? That seems like it could catch a lot of remote workers off guard, especially since most people probably assume if they don't owe income tax to a state, they're completely clear of all tax obligations there. Do you know if there's an easy way to check what payroll taxes your employer should be withholding based on their location vs. your work location? This might explain some confusing line items I've been seeing on my paystubs.

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Yes, exactly! California SDI operates under completely different rules than income tax. Even if you successfully establish that you're working remotely for your own convenience (avoiding California income tax), you can still be subject to SDI if your employer is California-based. The SDI rate for 2024 is 0.9% on wages up to $153,164. For checking what should be withheld, I'd recommend looking at your state's employment development department website - they usually have guides for multi-state employers. California's EDD has specific guidance on this. You can also check your paystub for line items like "CA SDI" or "CA CASDI" - if you see those deductions but live out of state, that's likely what's happening. The tricky part is that some employers get this wrong in both directions - either not withholding required SDI for out-of-state remote workers, or withholding it when they shouldn't (like if the employee works for a branch office in another state). I'd suggest reaching out to your HR/payroll department with specific questions about which state's payroll taxes they're applying to your situation. If they can't give you a clear answer, that might be a red flag that they need to review their multi-state payroll procedures.

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Emma Davis

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation as a remote worker and had no idea about some of these complexities. A few additional points that might help others: **Documentation is key**: Beyond the work location log mentioned earlier, I'd also recommend saving all travel receipts, hotel bookings, and any emails/communications that establish your remote work arrangement. If your company has a formal remote work policy, get a copy for your records. **State-specific quirks**: Each state really does have its own weird rules. For example, I discovered that some states consider ANY work performed on their soil as creating a filing requirement, while others have safe harbors for short-term business travel (usually under 30 days). **Professional help timing**: If you're going to consult a tax professional, do it BEFORE you file rather than after you get an audit notice. Multi-state tax specialists can often structure your filing approach to minimize future audit risk. **Estimated payments**: Don't forget that if you end up owing taxes to multiple states, you might need to make quarterly estimated payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The safe harbor rules can be different for each state too. The remote work tax landscape is definitely still evolving post-pandemic, so staying informed and keeping good records is more important than ever!

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I work as a tax preparer and see these situations fairly often. Based on what you've described, you should be able to claim your partner as a dependent. The key tests you need to meet are: 1. **Support Test**: You provided more than half of his total support for the year (sounds like you clearly meet this) 2. **Gross Income Test**: His income must be less than $4,700 for 2024 (you mentioned zero income, so āœ“) 3. **Member of Household Test**: This is where the incarceration question comes in For the member of household test, the IRS considers temporary absences - including incarceration, hospitalization, education, military service, etc. - as time the person is still living with you, provided it's reasonable to assume they'll return to your household. Since your partner lived with you for 7 months and returned after his release, the 5-month incarceration would be considered a temporary absence. Make sure to keep documentation of the financial support you provided (rent, utilities, groceries, etc.) and proof of your shared residence before and after the incarceration period. You don't need to submit anything with your return, but having records ready is always smart in case of questions later. Also double-check that no one else (like his parents) will be claiming him as a dependent to avoid any conflicts with the IRS.

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CyberNinja

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! As someone new to navigating these dependency rules, I really appreciate having all the tests laid out clearly. The documentation point is especially helpful. I've been keeping receipts for groceries, utilities, and other expenses but wasn't sure if that was necessary. Better to be over-prepared than caught off guard if the IRS has questions later. It's reassuring to see a tax professional confirm what others have been saying about temporary absences. Makes me feel more confident about moving forward with claiming him as a dependent.

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StarSeeker

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Just wanted to add my experience from a similar situation last year. My boyfriend was incarcerated for 4 months in 2023, and I was nervous about claiming him as a dependent even though I clearly met all the support requirements. I ended up consulting with a CPA who confirmed that the temporary absence rule definitely applies to incarceration periods. One thing that really helped was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all the support I provided throughout the year - rent, utilities, food, medical expenses, etc. Even though he wasn't physically present for those 4 months, I was still covering his portion of rent and keeping up with expenses that would resume when he returned. The CPA said this kind of documentation clearly demonstrates the ongoing financial relationship and intent for him to return to the household. Also, don't forget to consider any expenses you might have incurred related to his incarceration - commissary money, phone calls, transportation to visit - these all count as support you provided during that period. I claimed him successfully and had no issues with the IRS. Sometimes the tax code actually works in favor of people in difficult situations!

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This is such helpful real-world advice! I love the idea of creating a spreadsheet to track all support expenses - that's something I hadn't thought of but makes total sense for documentation purposes. And you're absolutely right about expenses related to the incarceration itself counting as support. I did put money in his commissary account and paid for phone calls, so it's good to know those qualify too. It really helps to hear from someone who actually went through this process successfully. The fact that you had no issues with the IRS after claiming him gives me a lot more confidence about my own situation. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Asher Levin

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Has anyone used TurboTax Self-Employed for this kind of situation? I'm wondering if it helps identify which expenses qualify when you're in that gray area.

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Serene Snow

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I used it last year. It asks questions about your profit motive and helps identify which expenses qualify. The interview format walks you through everything. It was pretty helpful for my side gig, caught some deductions I would've missed.

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Avery Flores

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The transition from hobby to business can definitely be confusing! The good news is that there's no magic income number you need to hit before you can start deducting business expenses. What matters most is your intent and how you operate. Here's what I'd recommend documenting to strengthen your position: Keep a separate business bank account (even if it's just a basic checking account), maintain detailed records of all income and expenses, create a simple business plan showing how you intend to become profitable, and treat it professionally with business cards, invoices, etc. The IRS will look at factors like whether you're actively seeking customers, if you're improving your skills/methods to increase profits, how much time you're dedicating to it, and whether you're conducting it in a businesslike manner. Even if you're operating at a loss initially, that's completely normal for new businesses. Since you're already tracking expenses, you're on the right track! Just make sure each expense has a clear business purpose and keep good records. The key is being able to show you're genuinely trying to build a profitable business, not just enjoying an expensive hobby.

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