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Have you looked into Wave Accounting? It's completely free for invoicing and accounting (they make money on payment processing if you use that feature). I've been using it for my LLC for 2 years and it's been great for basic bookkeeping. For tax time, I just work with a local CPA who charges me about $650 for my business and personal returns. All total I'm spending way less than $1000/year on accounting and tax prep. Just another option to consider!
I tried Wave but found the reporting features kind of limited. Do you use anything else alongside it?
I'm dealing with the exact same situation as a new LLC owner! Reading through everyone's experiences here has been super helpful. I'm leaning away from the $3700 option after seeing the mixed reviews. Quick question for those who've gone the local CPA route - do most CPAs offer payment plans for their services? That upfront cost is still a concern even if it's less than 1-800Accountant. Also, is there a particular time of year that's better to establish a relationship with a CPA, or should I reach out now even though we're not in tax season? Thanks for all the practical advice in this thread - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
Great thread with solid advice! I went through this exact situation with my daughter two years ago. She made $18k from her summer internship plus some part-time work during the school year, and I was panicking thinking I couldn't claim her anymore. The key insight that helped me was realizing that "support" includes everything - not just cash. When I actually added up her tuition ($35k), room and board ($12k), health insurance ($3k), car insurance ($1.2k), phone bill ($1k), and other expenses I covered, it came to over $52k total. Her $18k contribution was less than half, so I could still claim her. One tip: keep good records of what you pay for throughout the year. If you ever get audited on this, you'll want documentation showing you provided more than half the support. I started tracking everything in a simple spreadsheet after that experience - makes tax time much less stressful!
This is such helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm new to navigating these dependency rules and hadn't thought about tracking all the support expenses throughout the year. Your breakdown really shows how quickly those costs add up - $52k total support makes that $18k income look pretty small in comparison. I'm definitely going to start a spreadsheet now to track what we pay for our college student. Better to have the documentation ready than scramble later if questions come up. Thanks for sharing your experience!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my 21-year-old who's a junior in college. He made about $15k from a co-op program last semester, and I was worried we'd lose the dependency exemption. Reading through all these responses really clarifies the difference between qualifying child vs qualifying relative rules. It sounds like as long as we're covering his tuition, housing, and other major expenses (which we definitely are), his income doesn't disqualify him from being our dependent. One question though - does anyone know if there are any other tax benefits we might lose or gain by claiming him? I know someone mentioned education credits earlier. Should we be thinking about whether it's actually better tax-wise for him to claim himself, or are we generally better off claiming him as our dependent?
One thing to keep in mind about filing multiple years at once - make sure you're using the correct tax forms and rates for each specific year. The standard deduction amounts, tax brackets, and even some forms change from year to year. For example, the standard deduction for 2022 was different from 2024. I made the mistake of using current year forms for an old return and had to refile it correctly. The IRS has all the prior year forms available on their website, so download the specific forms for 2022 when you file that return. This will help ensure everything processes smoothly and you don't get any correction notices that could delay things further.
This is such an important point! I almost made this exact mistake when I was catching up on my 2020 and 2021 returns. The tax software I was using kept defaulting to current year amounts and I didn't realize it at first. The Child Tax Credit amounts were completely different between those years, and the stimulus payment reconciliation rules were unique to each year too. It's definitely worth taking the extra time to double-check you're using the right year's forms and following that year's specific rules, especially for things like deductions and credits that change frequently.
I was in a very similar situation last year - filed my 2023 return and then realized I had completely missed filing 2021. Like others have said, you can absolutely file your 2022 return now without any issues. The IRS actually prefers when people catch up on unfiled returns rather than continuing to ignore them. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep really good records of what you file and when. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each return - the year, date filed, method (e-file vs mail), and confirmation numbers. This helped me stay organized when dealing with multiple years and made it easier when I had to call the IRS later. Also, don't be surprised if processing takes longer for older returns. My 2021 return took about 12 weeks to process compared to my current year return which was processed in 3 weeks. The IRS systems seem to handle older returns differently, but they do get processed eventually. Good luck with everything!
That's really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm just starting to deal with multiple unfiled returns myself and hadn't thought about creating a tracking spreadsheet. Did you include anything else in your spreadsheet beyond what you mentioned? Also, when you say processing took 12 weeks for the older return - did that delay affect when any refunds or debt adjustments were applied? I'm trying to get a realistic timeline for my own situation.
Former Walmart employee here (not in accounting). Our tax department was huge - like a whole floor of people. They worked crazy hours but made serious bank. I remember during tax season they'd bring in catered meals every night because everyone was working 80+ hour weeks. The head tax guy drove a Maserati... just saying.
This is such a fascinating topic! As someone who works in corporate finance, I can add that the coordination between different departments is incredible. Beyond just the tax teams, you have treasury, accounting, legal, and international subsidiaries all feeding information into the process. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the quarterly estimated tax payments - companies like Walmart are making payments to the IRS throughout the year based on projections, so there's constant reconciliation happening. They can't just wait until year-end to figure everything out. The technology aspect is really evolving too. I've heard that some of the largest corporations are starting to use AI-powered systems to help with data validation and flagging unusual transactions across their hundreds of entities. It's not replacing the human expertise, but it's definitely changing how the work gets done. The days of armies of junior accountants manually entering data are numbered.
This is really insightful! I never thought about the quarterly payments aspect - that must add another layer of complexity to track projections vs. actual results throughout the year. Do you know if these big corporations ever get significant penalties for underestimating their quarterly payments, or are they generally pretty accurate with their projections given all the resources they have? Also curious about the international side - with companies like Walmart having operations in so many countries, how do they handle the different tax jurisdictions and transfer pricing rules? That seems like it would require specialists in each country's tax code.
Javier Torres
Has anyone tried negotiating with their foreign clients to have them cover these fees? I've started adding a clause in my contracts that the client is responsible for ensuring I receive the full invoiced amount, which effectively means they pay any intermediary banking fees. About half my clients were fine with this approach.
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Emma Davis
ā¢I've done exactly this! Added a line in my invoices that says "Please ensure full payment of invoiced amount - sender is responsible for all transaction fees." Works with most of my European clients, but my Asian clients seem confused by this request.
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Javier Torres
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! I've found similar regional differences. My European clients understand immediately, while others are hesitant. For the confused clients, I started explaining it as "Please add $30 to cover any transaction fees" with a specific dollar amount rather than a general statement. This more concrete instruction has improved compliance significantly. Still handling it through Schedule C for the clients who don't adjust though.
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Asher Levin
I've been dealing with this exact issue for the past two years with my international consulting clients. After going through different approaches and consulting with my CPA, I can confirm that reporting the full invoiced amount as income and deducting the intermediary fees as business expenses is the most defensible method. What helped me tremendously was creating a simple tracking system: I keep a monthly spreadsheet with columns for Invoice Date, Invoice Amount, Amount Received, Fee Amount, and Client Country. This creates a clear paper trail showing the pattern of these unavoidable business costs. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure to categorize these fees correctly on Schedule C. They should go under "Commissions and fees" (line 10) rather than "Other expenses" since they're directly related to collecting your earned income. My CPA emphasized that consistency in reporting method and good documentation are key if the IRS ever has questions. For anyone dealing with this regularly, I'd also suggest reviewing your contracts annually to see if you can shift some of these costs to clients, but having a solid reporting method is essential either way.
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