Very confused about Foreign LLC classification - DRE vs FDE for US taxes
I'm working with a client who's a US citizen with a Ghana-based Foreign LLC established in 2019. The situation has me completely stumped regarding entity classification. He never filed Form 8832 and doesn't have a US EIN for the business. I'm trying to figure out if this qualifies as a Foreign Disregarded Entity (FDE) or just a regular Disregarded Entity (DRE). The whole classification system for foreign entities is really throwing me for a loop. This is my first time handling international business structures. The main question I'm wrestling with: Can this be treated as a DRE, allowing his business expenses and income to flow directly onto Schedule C for the relevant tax years? Any insights would be incredibly helpful as I'm completely out of my depth here.
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Paolo Longo
This is actually more straightforward than it seems! Foreign LLCs with a single owner are automatically treated as disregarded entities by default unless they elect otherwise. Since your client didn't file Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election), the Ghana LLC remains a disregarded entity by default. In this case, it would be considered a Foreign Disregarded Entity (FDE). The term "foreign" just indicates it was formed outside the US, while "disregarded entity" means it's ignored for federal tax purposes and treated as an extension of its owner. Yes, the income and expenses from this Ghana LLC should flow through to your client's Schedule C, as if they were operating the business as a sole proprietorship. However, there are important foreign reporting requirements you need to address. Your client likely needs to file Form 8858 (Information Return of U.S. Persons With Respect to Foreign Disregarded Entities) along with their personal tax return.
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CosmicCowboy
•Thanks for the clarification! That makes sense, but I'm still confused about whether the business needs an EIN. If it's disregarded, does it still need one for banking purposes or anything else?
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Paolo Longo
•A disregarded entity generally doesn't require its own EIN for US tax purposes since it's not a separate entity for federal tax filing. The owner can use their SSN for tax reporting of the business activities on Schedule C. However, there are practical situations where an EIN might still be needed, such as if the entity has US employees or for certain banking requirements. The Ghana LLC can obtain an EIN by filing Form SS-4 with the IRS, even while maintaining its disregarded status for tax purposes. This doesn't change how it's taxed - it would still report on Schedule C.
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Oliver Schulz
•How long did the analysis take? I've got a similar situation but with a Uruguay LLC and I'm on a deadline with a client.
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Natasha Orlova
•Did it tell you if your client needed to file FBARs too? My understanding is that foreign bank accounts over $10k need that separate from the entity classification stuff.
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Amina Diallo
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NeonNebula
One critical thing missing from this discussion: Form 5471! If the Ghana LLC elected (or defaulted to) corporate status under local law, you might need to file Form 5471 instead of 8858. The classification rules vary by country. This is especially important because the penalties for missing Form 5471 start at $10,000 per form per year. Worth double-checking with a international tax specialist.
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Keisha Johnson
•I'm not sure if Ghana automatically treats LLCs as corporations by default. Do you happen to know the default classification under Ghana law or how I would find that information? I'm concerned about potentially missing Form 5471 if that's required.
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NeonNebula
•You'd need to research Ghana's specific entity classification rules or consult with a local Ghana tax professional. Generally, you want to determine if the entity has "limited liability" status under local law. However, even if it's considered a corporation under Ghana law, the IRS has its own "check-the-box" regulations that allow certain foreign entities to choose their classification. Without an 8832 election, a foreign eligible entity with a single owner generally defaults to disregarded entity status for US tax purposes (unless it's on the per se corporation list in the regulations, which most LLCs are not). So your original instinct about Schedule C treatment is likely correct, but proper documentation of this position is critical.
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Isabella Costa
Has anyone dealt with the GILTI tax in situations like this? If the Ghana LLC is treated as a foreign corporation rather than disregarded, wouldn't the US owner be subject to GILTI on earnings?
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Ravi Malhotra
•GILTI wouldn't apply if it's properly treated as a disregarded entity. GILTI only applies to foreign corporations, not DREs or FDEs. That's another reason why getting the classification right is so important!
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Jace Caspullo
This is a great discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation with a client who has a foreign LLC in Mexico. One thing I'd add is that even though the Ghana LLC will likely be treated as an FDE and flow through to Schedule C, don't forget about potential state tax implications. Some states have different rules for recognizing foreign entities, and you might need to file additional state forms or make state-level elections. Also, make sure to document your classification decision thoroughly in your workpapers. The IRS has been scrutinizing foreign entity classifications more closely lately, so having clear documentation of why you treated it as a disregarded entity (default classification, no Form 8832 election, single owner, etc.) will be crucial if you ever get questioned. Has anyone here dealt with retroactive compliance for missed Form 8858 filings? I'm wondering if the reasonable cause exception applies when the taxpayer wasn't aware of the filing requirement.
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Abby Marshall
•Great point about state tax implications! I hadn't considered that angle. Regarding retroactive compliance for Form 8858, I've had some success with reasonable cause arguments when clients genuinely weren't aware of the requirement, especially for smaller foreign entities. The IRS seems more willing to consider reasonable cause if you can show the taxpayer properly reported the income on Schedule C but just missed the information return filing. Documentation is key - I always include a reasonable cause statement explaining that the taxpayer was unaware of Form 8858 requirements, had no intent to evade taxes, and properly reported all income. Having the income already on the returns definitely strengthens the case. The penalties for Form 8858 are substantial ($10,000 per form), so it's worth the effort to request abatement.
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