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This is such a frustrating situation but you're definitely not alone! I went through something very similar at my first retail job. The combination of improper W-4 setup plus those sneaky uniform and meal plan deductions can really shock you on that first paycheck. Since you've already identified the extra deductions, definitely push back on those - especially the uniform charge. In many states, employers can't legally charge you for required work uniforms. The meal plan should definitely be optional if you didn't explicitly agree to it. For the tax withholding part, the key is getting that W-4 corrected ASAP. When you talk to your manager tomorrow, ask specifically which version of the W-4 form they use. If it's the newer 2020+ version, the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator will be your best friend for figuring out exactly what to put in each section. One thing that might help ease your stress - if you're working part-time and making under about $12,000-$13,000 for the year, you likely won't owe any federal income tax at all. That means everything being withheld for federal taxes will come back to you as a refund. Still worth fixing now though so you can actually use that money for textbooks instead of waiting until next spring! Keep us updated on how the conversation with your manager goes. Most employers are pretty understanding about fixing these new employee W-4 issues once you bring it to their attention.
This is really encouraging to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I had no idea about the uniform charge rules - definitely going to look into that for my state. The meal plan thing is especially annoying since I bring my own lunch anyway. Your point about potentially not owing federal tax at all is huge for my peace of mind. I was doing the math in my head and getting really worried, but if most of this comes back as a refund that changes everything. Still want to fix it now like you said, but at least I know the money isn't just gone forever. I'll definitely update everyone after I talk to my manager tomorrow. Fingers crossed they're as understanding as you mentioned - this whole thread has made me feel so much better about approaching them about it!
I'm really glad to see how supportive everyone has been in helping you figure this out! As someone who works in payroll processing, I can confirm that what happened to you is incredibly common with first-time employees. The combination of default W-4 settings plus those automatic deductions can create a real shock. A few additional tips for your conversation with your manager tomorrow: 1. Bring a calculator and your paystub so you can work through the numbers together. Show them that $268 in total deductions on what sounds like a $350 gross pay doesn't make sense for your situation. 2. Ask to see exactly what boxes were checked on your original W-4. Sometimes during busy hiring periods, HR might have filled parts out incorrectly or made assumptions. 3. If your manager seems unsure about the tax withholding calculations, suggest they contact their payroll service provider (if they use one) or the IRS business helpline. Small business owners sometimes aren't experts on payroll tax rules. 4. Definitely push back on any deductions you didn't explicitly agree to. Keep documentation of what they agree to change. The silver lining is that this experience is teaching you to carefully review your paystubs from day one - a habit that will serve you well throughout your career! Most people don't learn to do this until much later. You're already ahead of the game by catching this and taking action.
Has anyone used a structured settlement instead of taking a lump sum? My tax guy mentioned this might help spread out the tax burden over multiple years.
I did this with my $120K employment settlement three years ago. Instead of getting hit with a huge tax bill in one year, I spread payments over 5 years at about $24K annually. Kept me in the same tax bracket and actually saved about $11K in total taxes compared to taking it all at once. The structured settlement company charged a fee, but it was way less than the tax savings.
Great question about EEOC settlements! I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago with a $95K settlement. Here's what I learned that might help: First, make sure your settlement agreement clearly breaks down what each portion represents - back pay, compensatory damages, punitive damages, attorney fees, etc. This is crucial for tax purposes. Back pay gets treated as W-2 wages (subject to employment taxes), while compensatory damages are taxable income but not subject to employment taxes. One key thing - if you had any documented physical symptoms from the workplace stress (ulcers, migraines, high blood pressure, etc.), those portions may qualify as tax-free under IRC Section 104(a)(2). You'll need medical documentation linking these conditions to the workplace discrimination. Also consider timing - if you're close to year-end, you might want to delay the settlement payout until January to push the tax liability into the next year, especially if you expect lower income next year. The "higher tax bracket" fear is common but remember that tax brackets are marginal - only the income above each threshold gets taxed at the higher rate, not your entire income. Still, spreading it out through installments or maximizing deductions can definitely help reduce the overall tax hit. Definitely consult with a tax professional who has experience with employment settlements - regular accountants often miss the nuances of these cases.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with settlements and taxes, so I really appreciate the detailed breakdown. A couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: When you mention medical documentation linking physical symptoms to workplace discrimination, does this need to be from before the settlement, or can I get documentation now if I'm still experiencing these issues? I definitely had stress-related headaches and digestive problems during the whole ordeal, but I'm not sure if my medical records specifically mention the workplace connection. Also, regarding the timing aspect - my settlement is supposed to finalize in the next few weeks. Would it be worth asking my attorney to delay the payout until January? I'm currently unemployed (partly why I need this settlement), so my 2025 income will likely be much lower than 2024. Thanks again for sharing your experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world insight I was hoping to find here!
22 My sister told me that some states aren't following the federal extension and are still requiring taxes to be filed by April 15th. Can anyone confirm if this is true and which states are sticking with the original deadline? I live in Ohio if that helps.
10 I know for sure that Hawaii, Idaho, and Ohio aren't automatically following the federal extension - they're still requiring filings by April 15th unless they announce something different. Several other states are also sticking with their original deadlines. You should definitely check with the Ohio Department of Taxation directly. Their website should have the most current information, or you could call them to confirm. Don't assume your state deadline changed just because the federal one did!
This is such helpful information, thanks for sharing! I've been putting off filing because I wasn't sure about all the different deadlines. One thing I'm still confused about though - if I owe money on my 2020 taxes but can't pay the full amount by May 17th, what are my options? I know the extension covers penalties and interest until May 17th, but what happens if I still can't pay everything by then? Are there payment plan options available, or should I pay whatever I can by the deadline and then deal with penalties on the remainder?
I'm surprised nobody has asked this yet - but what tax software is your accountant using? Some programs organize the information differently. In Drake Tax software, for example, all the detail about owner payments might be in a supplemental worksheet that doesn't print with the final return unless specifically selected. Ask your accountant for the "full return with all worksheets" rather than just the filing copy. That might show more detail about how your payments were categorized.
This is really good advice. My accountant uses UltraTax and I had the same issue. The official IRS forms didn't show the breakdown of owner payments, but the supplemental worksheets had everything detailed perfectly. Saved me a panic attack!
Just wanted to add that you should also check if your accountant provided you with a "client organizer" or summary sheet that breaks down how your payments were treated. Many accountants create these internal documents that show the logic behind how owner compensation was handled, even if it doesn't appear explicitly on the tax forms themselves. Also, don't feel bad about not understanding this - the tax treatment of LLC owner payments is genuinely confusing and even some accountants don't explain it clearly. The key thing to remember is that if you're a regular LLC (not S-Corp elected), your "salary" and "draws" are treated the same way for tax purposes - they're just you taking your share of the profits, which you owe tax on whether you take the money out or not. If you're still concerned, you could always get a second opinion from another tax professional. Sometimes a fresh perspective can help clarify things your current accountant might have assumed you understood.
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to owning an LLC and honestly had no idea that owner draws and salary could be treated the same way for tax purposes. I've been stressing about whether I'm doing everything correctly with my business finances. Katherine, when you mention getting a second opinion from another tax professional, how do you typically find someone reliable? I'm worried about paying for multiple consultations just to get clarity on something my current accountant should have explained clearly in the first place. Also, for those who mentioned the various online tools - do any of them help with understanding the tax implications BEFORE you make decisions about owner payments? I'd love to better plan my draws vs leaving money in the business rather than just trying to understand what happened after the fact.
Aisha Hussain
Just a quick warning based on my experience with amended returns - make sure you're checking the "Where's My Amended Return" tool regularly. I waited 8 months assuming they were processing my amendment, only to discover they never received it! Apparently it got lost in the mail and I had to resubmit everything. If you don't see your amendment showing up in their system after about 3 weeks, I'd recommend calling to confirm they received it or sending a follow-up copy via certified mail. Better to be paranoid than to find out months later they never got it and you're accruing more interest and penalties!
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Alexander Evans
Great advice from everyone here! I went through a similar situation last year with a filing status error (filed Married Filing Separately when I should have filed Married Filing Jointly). A few additional tips from my experience: 1. Document everything - I kept copies of all correspondence, payment confirmations, and dates. This was crucial when I had to call the IRS later. 2. Consider setting up an online account with the IRS if you haven't already. It makes tracking your amended returns much easier than relying solely on the "Where's My Amended Return" tool. 3. When you do make that payment (which I'd recommend doing sooner rather than later), make sure to include a clear memo indicating which tax years the payment is for. I initially made a payment without specifying and it got applied to the wrong year, creating more confusion. The good news is that the IRS is generally reasonable when you voluntarily correct mistakes. In my case, they waived the accuracy-related penalty entirely since I caught and corrected the error myself. The interest was unavoidable, but stopping it from accruing further by paying early saved me several hundred dollars. Hang in there - the process is slow but you're handling it the right way!
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
β’This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the online IRS account you mentioned - does it show more detailed information than the "Where's My Amended Return" tool? I've been checking that tool weekly but it just shows "processing" without any real timeline or details about what stage they're at. Also, when you say you made a payment without specifying the tax year and it got applied wrong, how long did it take to get that straightened out with the IRS?
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