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don't stress too much. I had about $35k in doordash income from 2021 I never reported and got hit with a big bill too. If u file now and apply for a payment plan the irs is usually pretty reasonable. I'm paying like $180/month which isn't too bad. Just make sure to file 2023 taxes on time so u don't dig the hole deeper!!!
I went through something very similar with my 2022 gig work taxes! That $10,400 estimate actually sounds pretty accurate unfortunately - self-employment tax alone is brutal at 15.3% on your net earnings, plus regular income tax on top of that. The penalties and interest really add up fast too. Here's what saved me: I gathered EVERY possible business expense I could find. Phone bills, car maintenance, gas receipts, even cleaning supplies for my car. But the biggest game changer was mileage - if you drove for deliveries, you can deduct 58.5 cents per mile for 2022. Even if you didn't track it perfectly, you can estimate based on your delivery patterns and the IRS accepts reasonable reconstructions. Also definitely look into that first-time penalty abatement others mentioned. I got about $2,800 in penalties waived just by calling and explaining it was my first time missing a filing deadline. The key is to file first and get on a payment plan, then request the abatement. Don't panic - the IRS wants their money but they're surprisingly willing to work with you if you're proactive about fixing it!
One approach my spouse and I use is to just slightly overwithhold by adding an extra fixed amount on line 4(c) of both our W-4s. We each add $25 per paycheck. By the end of the year, that's an extra $1300 withheld between us (we're both paid biweekly), which has always covered any surprise tax issues from our investments or side hustles.
Congratulations on getting married! As someone who went through this same situation a couple years ago, I'd definitely recommend starting with the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that Ezra mentioned. It's free and gives you personalized recommendations. One thing I learned the hard way - don't just guess or use rules of thumb when your incomes are different like yours are. My husband and I initially just both checked the Step 2(c) box thinking that would be enough, but we ended up owing about $600 because we didn't account for some other factors properly. The estimator will ask for your pay stubs, expected annual income, filing status (married filing jointly), and any deductions you plan to take. It then gives you specific instructions for each of your W-4 forms. Since you're planning to file jointly and have that 30% income difference, it's really worth the 15 minutes to get it right rather than guessing and potentially owing at tax time. Also, remember you can always adjust your W-4s mid-year if your situation changes or if you find you're withholding too much or too little based on your paychecks!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you say you ended up owing $600 despite checking the Step 2(c) box, what were those "other factors" that caused the issue? My husband and I are in a similar boat (just got married in February) and I want to make sure we don't miss anything important when we use the estimator. Were there things like bonuses, different pay schedules, or tax credits that threw off the calculations?
Just want to add a data point - I had a similar issue and it turned out I wasn't eligible for APTC for one month due to having access to employer coverage that month (even though I didn't take it). The marketplace still paid APTC to my insurer but left Column B blank. When I called, they told me to use the SLCSP calculator tool to determine the correct amount for Column B, rather than leaving it as zero. Apparently a zero really isn't valid there on the 8962 form.
Did you have to pay back all the APTC for that month since you weren't eligible?
I had this exact same issue last year! Your tax software is correct to flag the $0 in Column B - it's actually not a valid entry on Form 8962 when you've received advance premium tax credits. Here's what's likely happening: The marketplace made an error on your 1095-A. Column B (SLCSP) is essential for calculating your premium tax credit eligibility, and it should never be blank or zero when you received APTC payments (Column C has a value). My recommendation is to use the SLCSP lookup tool on Healthcare.gov to find the correct amount for your zip code, family size, and coverage period for April. You'll need this information: your county, number of people covered, and their ages during that month. The tool will give you the official SLCSP amount that should have been in Column B. Once you have the correct SLCSP amount, enter it on your Form 8962 instead of the $0.01 workaround. This will give you an accurate premium tax credit calculation. You don't necessarily need to wait for a corrected 1095-A if you can verify the correct SLCSP amount yourself using the official tool. Just make sure to keep documentation of where you got the SLCSP figure in case the IRS has questions later.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my 1095-A has some questionable values. Quick question though - when you say to use the SLCSP lookup tool on Healthcare.gov, do you need to create an account or can you access it without logging in? Also, if the SLCSP amount I find is significantly different from what's on my 1095-A, should I be concerned about using a different number than what the marketplace provided?
This is exactly the kind of complex situation that requires specialized expertise beyond typical tax preparation. I've seen similar cases where families get trapped with appreciated assets in S-corps, and unfortunately there's no one-size-fits-all solution. One option you might not have explored yet is a charitable remainder trust (CRT) if you're charitably inclined. You could contribute some of the S-corp shares to a CRT, which would then sell the properties without immediate tax consequences to you, and you'd receive an income stream for life. This works especially well if you don't need all the property value immediately. Another consideration is whether any of the rental properties could qualify for opportunity zone deferrals if you're planning to reinvest. The timing with your father's passing might create some unique planning opportunities. Have you gotten a current appraisal on all four properties? Market conditions have changed significantly, and knowing exact current values versus basis will help determine which strategies make the most financial sense. Also, consider whether keeping one or two properties in the S-corp while extracting others might be a hybrid approach worth exploring. The key is running detailed projections on each option - sometimes paying the tax hit upfront is actually better than the ongoing complications and limitations of keeping everything in the S-corp structure.
I'm sorry for your loss and can understand how overwhelming this situation must be. You're dealing with one of the most challenging aspects of S-corp ownership - extracting appreciated real estate without massive tax consequences. One strategy worth exploring that hasn't been fully discussed is an installment sale back to the S-corp. Essentially, you could sell your shares back to the corporation over time, receiving payments spread across multiple years. This could help manage the tax impact by spreading recognition over several years instead of one large hit. Another angle to consider: since you inherited the shares, you might want to explore whether any portion of the properties could qualify for Section 1202 qualified small business stock treatment, though this typically applies to active businesses rather than rental properties. Given the complexity and the fact that you've already gotten conflicting advice from two accountants, I'd strongly recommend finding a tax attorney who specializes in S-corp restructuring rather than just a CPA. They'll be more equipped to handle the advanced strategies like the Section 368 reorganizations or other complex structures that could apply to your situation. Document everything carefully and consider getting multiple professional opinions before moving forward with any strategy. The stakes are too high to rely on uncertain advice, and the right solution could save you hundreds of thousands in taxes.
Thank you for this comprehensive advice, Diego. The installment sale idea is particularly interesting - I hadn't heard that approach before. When you mention selling shares back to the S-corp over time, would that avoid the built-in gains tax issue that seems to be the main problem with most extraction strategies? Also, regarding finding a tax attorney who specializes in S-corp restructuring - do you have any recommendations for how to identify the right type of specialist? Most attorneys I've contacted so far seem to focus on general business law rather than these specific tax restructuring issues. The conflicting advice I've gotten has made me realize I need someone who deals with these exact situations regularly. One more question - you mentioned Section 1202 treatment. Even though these are rental properties, is there any way the original business purpose (liability protection for the commercial property) could help qualify for any special treatment?
Rachel Clark
As someone who recently navigated a similar family property transfer, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help streamline your process: Consider opening a separate bank account specifically for this transaction. Having all the money movements (the $200k mortgage payoff and $135k equity payment) go through a dedicated account creates a clear paper trail that will be invaluable for tax documentation and proves the legitimacy of the transaction to the IRS. Also, don't overlook the timing of your homestead exemption if you're in a state that offers one. Some states require you to file paperwork by a certain date each year to maintain your property tax exemption, and a mid-year ownership transfer could affect this. Your sister should check with the county tax assessor about when she needs to file for any available exemptions as the new owner. One more thing - if your sister plans to make any major improvements to the property, she should keep detailed records of all expenses. These can be added to her cost basis in the property, which will reduce any future capital gains tax liability when she eventually sells. This is especially important since she's paying fair market value now and will want to maximize her basis for tax purposes later. The documentation and legal costs upfront really are worth it for the peace of mind and protection they provide. Better to spend a bit more now than deal with complications for years to come!
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Lucas Schmidt
ā¢The separate bank account idea is brilliant! I wish I had thought of that when I was dealing with my own family property situation. Having everything flow through one dedicated account would have made tax prep so much easier. Your point about the homestead exemption timing is also really important. In my state, you have to file by March 1st to get the exemption for that tax year, and we almost missed it because we transferred the property in February but didn't realize the new owner needed to file separately. The county saved us about $1,800 annually in property taxes, so it was definitely worth the extra paperwork. One thing I'd add to your improvement documentation advice - make sure to keep receipts for any improvements made BEFORE the transfer too. If @ebd39c1f9e6b has made any significant improvements to increase the home's value, those could potentially be factored into the cost basis calculation. Things like a new roof, HVAC system, kitchen renovation, etc. might help establish that the $335k sale price truly reflects the fair market value of an improved property.
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Abigail Spencer
Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in real estate finance - one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the potential impact on your sister's debt-to-income ratio for future lending. Even though she's paying cash for this transaction, if she ever wants to get a mortgage on another property or refinance this one, lenders will look at how she came up with $335k in cash. If she had to liquidate investments, take loans against retirement accounts, or drain savings to make this purchase, it could affect her financial profile for future lending. Some lenders get concerned when they see large cash transactions that significantly impact someone's liquid assets, especially between family members. I'd recommend she keeps detailed documentation showing the source of the funds - whether from savings, investment sales, or other legitimate sources. This will be helpful if she ever needs to explain the transaction to future lenders. Also, if she's using any borrowed funds to make this purchase (like a loan against her 401k), she'll need to factor those monthly payments into her future debt-to-income calculations. The advice everyone's given about proper documentation and legal help is spot on. Family transactions often get more scrutiny from lenders and the IRS, so having everything properly documented from the start will save headaches later.
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