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Does anyone know if you can just ignore the 1099-G if the amount is small? Mine is only for $52 and it seems like a lot of hassle to report.
You're technically supposed to report all income regardless of amount. There's no minimum threshold for 1099-G forms like there is for some other types of income.
Thanks for the info. I was hoping there might be some kind of minimum reporting threshold like with interest income. Guess I'll go ahead and report it to be safe.
I had a very similar situation last year! The difference between what I received and what was on my 1099-G turned out to be because my state refund included both my actual tax overpayment AND interest that the state paid me for processing the refund late. The interest portion isn't considered part of your "state tax refund" for federal tax purposes - it's actually reported as taxable interest income instead (though many states don't issue a separate 1099-INT for small amounts). So the 1099-G only shows the actual tax refund portion ($740 in your case), not the total deposit you received. You should definitely use the amount on your 1099-G ($740) when reporting your state tax refund recovery. If there was interest included in your deposit, you might need to report that separately as interest income on your federal return. Check your state's refund documentation - it should break down exactly what components made up your total refund payment.
This is really helpful! I never would have thought to look for interest payments as a separate component. Do you remember how you found the breakdown of your refund? I'm looking at my bank statement and it just shows one lump sum deposit from the state treasury department. Did you have to request additional documentation from your state tax agency, or was it included with your original refund paperwork?
Has anyone made this transition without going back to entry level positions? I've been in industry accounting for 8 years with no public experience, but have my CPA and am interested in moving to tax. Wondering if I should expect a pay cut or lateral move?
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's encouraging to hear. Did you have to do any specific preparation or self-study in tax topics before interviewing? I'm curious what helped convince them to take a chance on you despite the lack of tax background.
I did some self-study but honestly not as much as you'd think. I read through some basic corporate tax materials and brushed up on common deductions in manufacturing (Section 199A, R&D credits, etc.) since that was their specialty. What really sold them was my deep understanding of manufacturing operations - I could speak their clients' language about inventory valuation, depreciation schedules, and cost accounting methods. During the interview, I emphasized how my controller experience gave me insight into what business owners actually need from their tax advisors beyond just compliance. The managing partner later told me they were tired of hiring people with tax knowledge but no business sense. They'd rather train someone who understands business operations in tax specifics than teach tax people how businesses actually work. Your 8 years of industry experience is more valuable than you realize!
Your audit background from KPMG plus 6 years of staff accounting experience actually puts you in a great position for tax roles! Many firms value that combination because you understand both sides of financial reporting. I'd recommend starting with mid-tier firms like Grant Thornton, BDO, or regional players rather than jumping straight back to Big 4 tax. They're often more willing to train someone with your background and won't lowball you as much on level/compensation. For job titles, search for "Tax Associate," "Corporate Tax Analyst," or "Tax Consultant" - avoid anything with "Junior" or "Entry Level" since you have significant accounting experience. Your REG pass is huge - that's the hardest tax exam and shows you can handle complex tax concepts. One tip: When interviewing, emphasize how your audit experience helps you understand the financial statement impact of tax decisions. That's exactly what corporate tax departments need - someone who can see the bigger picture beyond just compliance. Your KPMG experience also shows you can handle demanding deadlines and complex clients, which translates directly to tax work. Don't sell yourself short - you're not starting from zero, you're pivoting with valuable transferable skills!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timeline for making this kind of transition. How long should someone expect it to take to become proficient enough in tax to feel confident in the role? Also, when you mention emphasizing the financial statement impact of tax decisions in interviews, could you give an example of how to articulate that connection? I want to make sure I'm positioning my audit background effectively.
Is anyone else confused by the Code J in Box 12? I'm going through this exact same situation and my W-2c has a code J but the amount doesn't match what was actually paid to me. From what I can tell reading IRS pub 15-A, code J should show the amount of non-taxable sick pay. Anyone understand what's going on with that?
The Code J in Box 12 should show the total amount of sick pay that's non-taxable. If that amount doesn't match what you were paid, there could be a couple of explanations: 1. If your employer paid a portion of the premiums, only the portion of sick pay corresponding to what YOU paid would be non-taxable. 2. There might be a calculation error on their part. I'd recommend contacting the third-party administrator and asking them to explain the discrepancy. Request an itemized breakdown showing how they calculated the amount in Box 12 with Code J. If they can't provide a satisfactory explanation, you might need to escalate to their compliance department.
I just want to add another perspective based on my experience as someone who handles payroll for a small business. Third-party administrators often struggle with sick pay taxation because the rules are complex and depend entirely on who paid the premiums. The key thing to remember is that if you paid 100% of the disability insurance premiums with after-tax dollars, then ALL the sick pay benefits are non-taxable to you. The administrator should never have withheld federal income tax in the first place. What I've seen happen is that many third-party administrators have default settings in their payroll systems that automatically withhold taxes from all payments, regardless of the tax status. They then try to "fix" it later with corrected forms, but often mess up the correction process. For your situation, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of everything - your premium payment receipts showing you paid with after-tax dollars, both W-2 forms, and any correspondence with the administrator. When you file your return, the IRS will see the withholding credit and issue your refund, but having good documentation will help if there are any questions later. Also, consider filing a complaint with your state's insurance commissioner if the third-party administrator continues to provide incorrect tax documents. They have regulatory authority over these companies and can often resolve issues faster than dealing with the company directly.
This is really helpful insight from someone who actually handles payroll! I'm dealing with this exact situation and it's reassuring to know that the automatic withholding thing is a common system issue rather than something more complicated. Quick question - when you mention filing a complaint with the state insurance commissioner, does that typically result in the administrator fixing their processes for future cases, or is it mainly just to resolve individual issues? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort since I should be able to get my money back through my tax return anyway. Also, do you know if there are any penalties or interest that third-party administrators face when they make these kinds of mistakes? It seems like they're creating a lot of extra work for taxpayers when they mess up the tax withholding and reporting.
I work in tax preparation (not an accountant, just admin) and see this issue fairly regularly. One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you get a detailed record of all payments you've already made toward either return. Sometimes when there are duplicate returns, payments get misapplied or aren't properly credited to your account. When you talk to the IRS, specifically ask them to confirm all payments received and how they were applied. I've seen cases where clients paid the correct amount but it was applied to the wrong tax year or wrong submission. Also, keep copies of EVERYTHING - both returns, the ITIN rejection, proof of payments, and any correspondence with the IRS. If you send anything by mail, use certified mail so you have proof of delivery.
Is there a specific form I should request from the IRS to see my payment history? My situation is similar, and I'm worried some of my payments haven't been properly credited.
You can request a Tax Account Transcript, which will show all transactions including payments received. The easiest way is to go to IRS.gov and use the "Get Transcript" tool - you can view it online instantly if you create an account. If you prefer paper, you can submit Form 4506-T to request it by mail. The transcript will show all payments received, when they were applied, and to which tax period. It's an excellent way to verify that everything you've paid has been properly credited to your account.
I think you'll probably be able to get the penalties removed through First Time Penalty Abatement if you haven't had any issues in the past 3 years. The IRS has this program specifically for responsible taxpayers who make an occasional mistake. Just make sure to specifically ask for "First Time Penalty Abatement" when you call or write to them. I'd also recommend checking your wage and income transcript on the IRS website to make sure both returns are showing up correctly in their system. Sometimes when there are duplicate returns, weird things happen with how they record your information.
Does First Time Penalty Abatement work even if you've filed an extension before? I'm not sure if filing an extension counts as an "issue" in the past 3 years.
Filing an extension doesn't count as an "issue" for First Time Penalty Abatement eligibility! Extensions are completely normal and don't affect your compliance history. The IRS only looks at actual penalties for late filing, late payment, or accuracy-related issues when determining if you qualify. As long as you haven't been assessed penalties for failure to file, failure to pay, or accuracy-related problems in the past 3 years, you should be eligible. Filing extensions is actually considered responsible tax behavior since you're proactively requesting more time rather than just missing the deadline.
AstroExplorer
This exact thing happened to us with our 18-month-old daughter last year! It's surprisingly common - the IRS system flags when a dependent's SSN has been used inappropriately, even for babies. Here's what worked for us: I called the IRS Identity Protection PIN line at 800-908-4490 first thing in the morning (around 8 AM). It took about 45 minutes on hold, but I got through to someone who could help. They asked me to verify my identity as the parent, then issued a temporary IP PIN for my daughter over the phone. The agent explained that someone had likely used her SSN on a fraudulent return, which is why the system was rejecting our e-file. Once I got the PIN and entered it, our return went through immediately. The whole process was frustrating but relatively straightforward once I got the right person on the phone. Don't give up on e-filing! The phone route really does work if you're persistent about calling early in the day when wait times are shorter.
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Kai Rivera
ā¢Thanks for sharing this! It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually got through on the phone. I'm dealing with this exact situation with my 2-year-old and was starting to think it was impossible. Did they give you any indication of how long the temporary PIN would be valid? I'm wondering if I need to go through this process again next year or if there's a way to get a permanent solution for my toddler.
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Jayden Reed
ā¢The temporary IP PIN they gave me was valid for that tax year only, so yes, I had to call again this year for a new one. However, the IRS agent told me that once your child turns 16, they can apply for their own permanent IP PIN online through the Get an IP PIN tool on the IRS website. Until then, it's an annual phone call unfortunately. The good news is that the second time I called (this year), the process was much faster since they already had a record of the previous identity theft issue. The agent was able to issue the new PIN in about 10 minutes once I got through. So while it's annoying to have to do this every year, at least it gets easier! I'd recommend keeping a note in your tax files to call for the PIN in early January each year so you're not scrambling at filing time like I was the first time around.
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Freya Nielsen
I went through this nightmare scenario last year with my 3-year-old son. The frustrating part is that the IRS rejection notices don't clearly explain WHY a toddler would need an IP PIN, so you're left guessing. What I learned: When a dependent's SSN gets flagged (usually due to someone else using it fraudulently), the IRS requires an IP PIN for that dependent regardless of age. The online IP PIN tool won't work for kids under 16 because they can't pass the identity verification questions. Here's my step-by-step process that worked: 1. Call 800-908-4490 (Identity Protection PIN line) right at 8 AM when they open 2. Explain that your e-file is being rejected due to a dependent needing an IP PIN 3. They'll verify YOUR identity as the parent/guardian 4. They can issue a temporary IP PIN for your child over the phone The wait time was about 30-40 minutes when I called early morning. The agent confirmed someone had used my son's SSN on a fraudulent return the previous year (before I even knew there was an issue). Once I entered the PIN, our return was accepted immediately. Pro tip: Ask the agent to put a note on your account about the identity theft so next year's call goes faster. You'll need to get a new PIN annually until your child turns 16.
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