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Coming from a similar situation (different states IL/WI) - here's what really matters for you: where you each EARN the money, not just where you live. If one of you works in the other's state, it gets more complicated. You might need to file: - Joint federal - Resident state return for each of you - Non-resident state return(s) if either of you earn income in the other state Each state has different rules about credit for taxes paid to other states too, so don't assume anything. PA and NJ do have a reciprocal agreement that might help simplify things. My suggestion: find a CPA who specializes in multi-state taxation. It's worth the money for at least the first year to get everything set up correctly.
Completely agree with this. My husband and I are in CT/MA and we file jointly federal, separate state returns, and I also file a non-resident return in MA where I work but don't live. First year was complicated but now we just update the same basic structure each year.
That's a great point about the ongoing benefit. Most multi-state situations follow the same pattern year after year, so once you get it set up correctly, it's much easier to maintain. We keep a checklist of which forms need to be filed for each state and in what order, which helps a lot. One other tip: if you use tax software, save PDF copies of your completed returns with detailed notes about any special calculations or allocations. This becomes incredibly helpful the following year when you're trying to remember how you handled a particular situation.
Your tax professional was definitely wrong - you absolutely can file jointly for federal while filing separately for your respective states. This is actually a very common situation for couples living in different states. Federal and state tax systems are completely independent. You can choose married filing jointly for federal (which usually provides better tax benefits) while each filing as residents in your respective states - you in PA and your wife in NJ. The key things to consider: - File joint federal return reporting all income - Each file resident state returns in your home states - If either of you works across state lines, you may need non-resident returns too - PA and NJ have reciprocal agreements that can simplify things depending on work locations That $8,000 federal tax bill when filing jointly sounds unusually high - there might be withholding issues or other factors at play. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in multi-state taxation. Don't let one incorrect professional cost you thousands in overpayment. The fact that your gut told you something was off was right on target. Trust that instinct and find someone with proper multi-state experience.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I had that gut feeling something was wrong when my tax professional told me federal and state had to match. It just didn't make logical sense to me that completely separate tax systems would have that kind of restriction. I'm definitely going to look for a CPA who specializes in multi-state situations. Do you happen to know if the PA/NJ reciprocal agreement applies if we both work in our home states, or only if one of us works across state lines? We both work in the states where we live, so I'm hoping that might simplify things even more. Thanks for validating my instincts - I was starting to second-guess myself after that meeting!
Anyone else just keep everything forever because they're paranoid? Lol. I have tax records going back to my first job in 2002 š My spouse thinks I'm crazy but I've seen too many horror stories of people getting randomly audited for stuff from 6+ years ago!
The IRS generally can't audit you beyond 3 years unless there's suspected fraud or substantial underreporting. You're definitely keeping way more than needed! But I get it - tax anxiety is real. Maybe compromise and just keep the last 7 years? That covers even the extended scenarios.
I've been dealing with this exact same situation! After years of hoarding every piece of tax-related paper, I finally developed a system that works. Here's what I learned from my CPA and some trial and error: **Basic rule**: 3 years for most stuff, but keep these longer: - Investment records (stocks, bonds, crypto): Until 7 years after you sell - Property records: Forever (or until 7 years after you sell) - Business/self-employment records: 7 years - Records supporting permanent disabilities or retirement contributions: Forever **My purging strategy**: I go through my files every January and create three piles: 1. "Safe to shred" (older than 3-7 years depending on type) 2. "Scan and shred" (stuff I want digital copies of) 3. "Keep physical" (property deeds, some investment docs) The key is being systematic about it. I was amazed how much space I freed up once I actually followed the IRS guidelines instead of just keeping everything "just in case." You'll probably find that 80% of what you're keeping can safely go! Pro tip: Before you toss anything, take a photo with your phone of documents you're unsure about. That way you at least have something if you realize later you needed it.
This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm definitely one of those people who keeps everything "just in case" and my filing cabinet is bursting at the seams. The three-pile system sounds like a really practical approach. Quick question - when you say "scan and shred," do you organize your digital files by tax year or by document type? I'm trying to figure out the best folder structure before I start this process. Also, that phone photo tip is genius for those borderline documents!
Has anyone tried calling the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 800-908-4490? I had to do this last year when I lost my PIN and they were able to help me verify my identity to efile.
I went through this exact same frustration last year! Here's what worked for me without having to wait on hold with the IRS: First, try the AGI method that others mentioned - it's definitely the easiest if you can find your 2023 tax return. But if you're like me and had moved/lost everything, here's a backup plan: You can create an account on IRS.gov and use their "Get Transcript Online" tool. They'll ask you some identity verification questions (like previous addresses, loan amounts, etc.) and if you pass, you can immediately see your prior year AGI. I was able to do this at 11 PM when I was panicking about my deadline. If the online verification doesn't work, you still have options before resorting to paper filing. Some tax software will let you print and mail just the signature pages while still preparing everything electronically, which can speed up processing compared to a fully paper return. The key thing is don't stress too much - you have multiple paths to get this resolved and it shouldn't significantly delay your refund as long as you can verify your identity one way or another. Good luck getting it sorted this weekend!
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now where I moved states and can't find my old tax documents. The IRS.gov transcript tool sounds like exactly what I need - I didn't even know that existed. Quick question though - when you say they ask identity verification questions, are these the same types of questions credit monitoring services ask? Like previous addresses and loan information? I'm wondering if I'll be able to answer them since I've had a pretty complicated financial situation the past few years with multiple moves and job changes. Also, did you end up getting your refund on the normal timeline even though you had to go through all this extra verification stuff?
After struggling with this exact issue last filing season, I found that the IRS Interactive Tax Assistant (www.irs.gov/help/ita) has a specific tool called "Who Can I Claim as a Dependent?" It walks you through all the requirements step by step. In my case, I was able to claim my disabled brother (32) even though my parents provided some support. The key was documenting that I covered over 50% of his total support costs. I created a spreadsheet tracking every expense, including a portion of my mortgage, utilities, food, medical costs not covered by insurance, and transportation. Make sure to print and save this documentation in case of audit.
As someone who went through a similar situation with my disabled adult child last year, I can confirm what others have said about documentation being absolutely critical. One thing I didn't see mentioned is that you should also check if your sister qualifies for the disabled dependent credit in addition to the regular dependency exemption. Since you mentioned she's 30 and disabled, she might qualify for this additional benefit if she's permanently and totally disabled. Also, make sure to factor in the fair market rental value of the room she occupies in your house - this is often the largest single support item and can easily push you over the 50% threshold. I used Zillow's rental estimates for comparable rooms in my area to calculate this. The IRS accepts reasonable estimates as long as you can justify your methodology.
This is really helpful information! I had no idea there was a separate disabled dependent credit available. Could you clarify what qualifies as "permanently and totally disabled" for tax purposes? My sister has been receiving disability benefits since she was 25, but I'm not sure if her condition meets the IRS definition. Also, your point about using Zillow for fair market rental value is brilliant - I was struggling with how to calculate that portion of the support calculation.
Maxwell St. Laurent
One additional consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing of when your mom needs to report any capital gains. Even though she may qualify for the $250,000 exclusion on her primary residence, she'll still need to report the sale on her tax return for the year it closes. Since you're managing her finances with the POA, you'll likely be responsible for ensuring this gets reported correctly. The sale should be reported on Schedule D and Form 8949, even if no tax is owed due to the exclusion. Also, if your mom has any cognitive decline that affects her ability to understand financial matters, you might want to consider having a tax professional handle her return for the year of the sale. The documentation requirements and potential complexity of reporting a home sale while managing someone else's finances through a POA can be tricky to navigate solo.
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Yara Nassar
ā¢This is such an important point that I wish I had known earlier! I'm currently helping my grandmother with her finances through a POA, and we just sold her condo last month. I had no idea that the sale still needed to be reported even if no tax is owed due to the exclusion. I've been doing her taxes myself for the past few years since they're usually pretty straightforward, but you're absolutely right that a home sale adds complexity. Between calculating the correct basis, documenting all the improvements over the years, and making sure I report everything correctly while acting as her POA, it feels like a lot of responsibility. Do you have any recommendations for finding a tax professional who has experience with POA situations? I want to make sure I find someone who understands both the tax implications and the fiduciary responsibilities that come with managing someone else's finances.
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Zara Khan
ā¢For finding a tax professional experienced with POA situations, I'd recommend looking for either a CPA or Enrolled Agent who specifically mentions elder law or estate planning in their practice areas. You can search the IRS directory of credentialed tax professionals and filter by location and specialties. When you call to interview potential candidates, ask specifically about their experience with POA tax situations and home sales for elderly clients. A good professional should be able to explain how they handle the documentation requirements and what records they'll need from you. Also consider reaching out to any elder law attorneys in your area - they often have referral networks of tax professionals they work with regularly on these types of situations. The National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (NAELA) has a directory that might help you find local resources. One more tip - make sure whoever you choose understands that you'll need them to communicate with you as the POA holder rather than directly with your grandmother, and that they're comfortable working with the documentation requirements that come with acting under a POA.
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Dallas Villalobos
I went through this exact situation with my father's house last year and learned a few hard lessons that might help you. One thing that caught me off guard was the timing of when you need to establish the cost basis - make sure you're collecting all improvement receipts NOW, not after the sale closes. Also, regarding transferring money to your personal account - I'd strongly recommend against doing this directly. Instead, keep the proceeds in an account that's still in your mom's name but that you manage with the POA. This creates a much cleaner paper trail and avoids any potential gift tax complications. If you do need to access the money for her care expenses, transfer smaller amounts as needed with clear documentation of what each transfer is for (medical bills, care facility payments, etc.). This approach protects both of you and makes it much easier if you ever need to account for how the money was used. The tax reporting is also more straightforward when the money stays in her name - you'll just report the sale on her return without having to worry about gift tax implications on your end.
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Anastasia Sokolov
ā¢This is really helpful advice, especially about keeping the proceeds in her name rather than transferring directly to my account. I hadn't considered how much cleaner that would make the paper trail. Quick question about collecting improvement receipts - my mom has lived in the house for 15 years and I'm not sure she kept receipts for all the work that was done, especially from the early years. Are there other ways to document improvements if you don't have the original receipts? I know we did a major kitchen renovation and some landscaping work, but finding those old records might be challenging. Also, when you say "smaller amounts as needed" for care expenses, do you have a rough guideline for what might raise red flags? I want to make sure I'm being appropriately conservative in how I handle this.
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