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Miguel Silva

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Just FYI - make sure you're sending these by certified mail with return receipt! I sent FIRPTA forms to the correct address last year but the IRS claimed they never received them. Had no proof and ended up having to resubmit everything and pay penalties. Now I document EVERYTHING with tracking and keep digital copies of all receipts.

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This x1000! Same thing happened to me. Also take photos of the envelope before sending so you can prove you used the correct address. IRS lost our FIRPTA forms twice last year and the second time we had photos of everything including what was inside the envelope. Saved us from having to pay the 25% FIRPTA withholding again.

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Adding to the excellent advice already shared here - I just want to emphasize double-checking the specific requirements in Treas. Reg. 1.897-2(h) before mailing. The regulation requires that the certification include not just the transferor's information, but also a detailed statement about why the transferor believes they qualify for the exception from FIRPTA withholding. I've seen cases where people send the forms to the correct Ogden address but forget to include the required affidavit or supporting documentation, which can delay processing for months. The IRS won't process incomplete submissions and often doesn't send timely rejection notices. Also worth noting - if this is for a certification under section 1.897-2(h)(1) (non-recognition provision), make sure you're including documentation of the qualifying exchange. The requirements are slightly different depending on which subsection applies to your situation.

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Rita Jacobs

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to FIRPTA filings and wondering - is there a standard format for the affidavit you mentioned, or does it just need to be a sworn statement explaining the basis for the exception? Also, when you say "supporting documentation," what specific types of documents are typically required? I want to make sure I don't miss anything critical on my first submission.

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There isn't a standardized IRS form for the affidavit, but it needs to be a notarized sworn statement that specifically addresses the requirements in the regulation. For a typical non-recognition transaction under 1.897-2(h)(1), the affidavit should state the transferor's belief that no gain or loss is recognized on the transfer and cite the specific Code section (like Section 1031 for like-kind exchanges or Section 351 for corporate formations). For supporting documentation, it depends on your transaction type. Common examples include: exchange agreements for 1031 exchanges, corporate formation documents for Section 351 transfers, or partnership agreements for Section 721 contributions. You'll also typically need proof of the transferor's basis in the property and documentation showing the fair market value of both the transferred property and any boot received. The key is making sure everything clearly demonstrates that the transaction qualifies for non-recognition treatment under the specific Code section you're citing. I always include a cover letter that cross-references each required element in the regulation with the corresponding document in the submission package.

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Haley Stokes

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This thread has been absolutely incredible to read through! As someone who just started a new job and was completely panicking about my 1240L tax code, I can't express how relieved I am after understanding what's actually happening. The "coding out" explanation that everyone has discussed really is the key to making sense of these variations. I had no idea that HMRC automatically collects small adjustments through your payroll rather than sending separate bills - it's actually quite brilliant from an efficiency standpoint, even though it looks confusing when you don't understand the system. Following all the fantastic advice here, I just checked my Personal Tax Account and discovered that my small adjustment is due to a company car benefit that I'd completely overlooked when calculating my expected tax code. Rather than HMRC billing me separately for the additional tax on that benefit, they're collecting it seamlessly through my regular employment, which makes perfect sense now that I understand how it works. The GOV.UK tax code calculator was also invaluable for confirming my calculations and seeing exactly how my take-home pay breaks down. It's such a relief to know that these small variations from 1257L are typically just evidence of the system working correctly rather than problems that need immediate attention. Thank you to everyone who's shared their expertise and real-world examples - from savings interest to rental income to pension adjustments. This community has transformed what seemed like an intimidating government process into something completely understandable and manageable!

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This has been such an amazing thread to follow! As someone who just received their first payslip in the UK and saw a 1247L tax code, I was initially quite worried that something was wrong. Reading through everyone's explanations about "coding out" and how HMRC efficiently collects small adjustments through your regular payroll has completely changed my perspective. What really helped me understand was seeing all the different real-world examples - from company benefits to savings interest to dividend income. It shows that these small variations from the standard 1257L are incredibly common and usually just mean the system is working as intended. I took everyone's advice and checked my Personal Tax Account, which revealed that my adjustment is due to some freelance writing income I had earlier in the year that I'd almost forgotten about. Instead of HMRC sending me a separate bill for the additional tax owed, they're collecting it through my main employment, which is actually much more convenient once you understand what's happening. The systematic approach that's emerged from this discussion (Personal Tax Account → GOV.UK calculator → HMRC contact if needed) really does work brilliantly for getting clarity without unnecessary stress. This community's willingness to share knowledge and demystify complex government processes is exactly what newcomers like me need to feel confident navigating these systems!

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Rajiv Kumar

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 weeks ago and can share what happened in my case. The WMR status change you're describing is usually triggered when the IRS needs additional verification - in my case it was a CP05 notice requesting income verification because one of my W-2s didn't match what their systems had on file from my employer. The letter took exactly 2.5 weeks to arrive, and once I provided the requested documentation through their online portal, my refund was released within 3 weeks. I'd recommend checking your tax transcripts online now if you can access them, as they often show the specific notice codes before the physical letter arrives. Given that you're caring for your mother and need the refund, having that advance knowledge of what's coming can help you prepare the right documents ahead of time.

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This is really helpful information, thank you for sharing your experience! The timing you mentioned (2.5 weeks for letter arrival, then 3 weeks after documentation) gives me a much clearer picture of what to expect. I'm definitely going to try accessing my tax transcripts online tonight to see if I can spot any notice codes. Quick question - when you uploaded your documentation through their online portal, was it pretty straightforward or did you run into any technical issues? I want to make sure I'm prepared in case that's what they need from me.

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The online portal was actually much easier than I expected! I was able to upload my W-2 as a PDF and got a confirmation within minutes. The only small hiccup was that the file size limit is 5MB, so I had to compress a scanned document, but other than that it was smooth. One tip - make sure you have your Social Security number and the exact refund amount from your return handy when you log in, as they use those for verification. The portal also sends you email updates when they receive and process your documents, which was really reassuring during the waiting period.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat - my WMR changed to the letter status on Friday and I'm also waiting anxiously since I need my refund for some medical expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been really reassuring, especially knowing that most of these letters are just routine verification requests rather than anything serious. I tried accessing my tax transcripts online but I'm having trouble getting through the ID.me verification process (the video selfie keeps timing out). Has anyone had success calling the transcript line directly, or should I just wait for the physical letter to arrive? The uncertainty is definitely the worst part, but it sounds like most people get their refunds within a few weeks of responding to whatever documentation they're requesting.

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Mei Chen

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I went through a very similar situation last year with foreign accounts from when I lived in the UK. Had about $45,000 across multiple accounts and was completely unaware of Form 8938 requirements for three years. Here's what I learned: First, don't panic about the $10,000 penalty - that's the maximum for willful violations. The IRS distinguishes between willful non-compliance (intentionally hiding assets) and non-willful failures (honest mistakes like yours). The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures that others mentioned is definitely your best path forward. I used it successfully and faced zero penalties. The key is being thorough in your reasonable cause statement - explain exactly how you were unaware of the requirement, mention that you discovered it through tax software, and emphasize that you're proactively coming forward to correct the issue. One practical tip: gather all your foreign account statements for the past 3 years before you start. You'll need detailed records of account balances, opening/closing dates, and maximum balances during each year. The process took me about 2 months to complete, but the peace of mind was worth it. Also remember that working abroad in Singapore actually strengthens your non-willful case - many expats aren't properly informed about ongoing US tax obligations while living overseas. Document that context in your statement.

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Amina Toure

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This is exactly the kind of reassuring real-world experience I needed to hear! Your situation sounds almost identical to mine - similar account balances and the same "discovery through tax software" scenario. Quick question about the reasonable cause statement - how detailed did you get about your time abroad? I'm wondering if I should mention specific things like not receiving proper tax guidance from my employer in Singapore, or if I should keep it more general about being unaware of the requirement. Also, when you say it took 2 months to complete, was that mainly due to gathering documents or was the actual filing process itself time-consuming? I'm trying to plan out my timeline for getting this resolved. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helping calm my nerves about this whole situation!

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StarStrider

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I'm glad my experience is helpful! For the reasonable cause statement, I was fairly specific about my time abroad. I mentioned that my employer in Singapore didn't provide guidance about ongoing US tax obligations for foreign accounts, and that the local tax preparation services I used there focused only on Singapore tax requirements. I also noted that the foreign banks never mentioned any US reporting obligations when I opened the accounts. The IRS seems to appreciate detailed, factual explanations that show how a reasonable person could have been unaware of the requirements. Your Singapore employment situation is actually perfect context - many employers don't properly brief expat employees about complex US tax obligations like FATCA reporting. Regarding timeline, about 3 weeks was spent gathering and organizing documents (bank statements, account opening docs, etc.), and then another 5 weeks working through the actual forms and statements. The reasonable cause statement took the most time because I wanted to get it right. I also had a brief consultation with a tax professional to review everything before filing, which I'd recommend. One tip: start requesting historical statements from your Singapore banks now if you don't have them - international banks can take weeks to provide documentation, especially if accounts are closed.

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I want to add another perspective as someone who went through this process recently. While everyone's focusing on the Streamlined procedures (which are definitely the right approach), I want to emphasize how important it is to be completely accurate about your account balances and dates. The IRS has access to foreign account information through FATCA reporting from banks, so any discrepancies between what you report and what they already know can seriously undermine your "non-willful" claim. When I filed my Streamlined package, I triple-checked every balance and date because inconsistencies could make it look like you're still trying to hide something. Also, don't forget about investment accounts, not just bank accounts. I initially missed a small brokerage account in Singapore that had about $8,000 in it because I was focused on my main savings accounts. Even though it was under various thresholds individually, it still counted toward my total foreign assets for Form 8938 purposes. The key is being thorough and consistent in your documentation. If you're missing any account statements, request them now - it's better to delay your filing slightly than to submit incomplete information that could raise red flags later.

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Chloe Harris

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This is really valuable advice about being thorough with documentation. I'm just getting started with understanding my FATCA obligations and I'm realizing I might have missed some accounts too. Question about investment accounts - do things like employer retirement contributions or stock options from my Singapore employer count as "specified foreign financial assets" for Form 8938? I had some equity compensation that was managed through a local Singapore firm, but I'm not sure if that falls under the reporting requirements or if it's treated differently since it was employment-related. Also, when you mention the IRS having access to foreign account information through FATCA reporting, does that mean they already know about all our foreign accounts? I'm wondering how comprehensive their existing information is versus what we need to self-report.

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Omar Fawaz

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I know exactly how you're feeling! The as-of date changes can be so confusing when you're anxiously waiting for your refund. What you're experiencing is actually pretty typical - the IRS systems run these processing cycles that update the as-of date even when there's no visible movement on your transcript yet. The jump from March 1st to April 15th likely just reflects their internal processing schedule rather than any issue with your return. Since you're at 8 weeks with EIC and CTC claims, you're still well within the normal timeframe (those credits can add several extra weeks for verification). I'd recommend focusing less on the as-of date changes and more on watching for actual transaction codes like 846 (refund issued) or 971 (notices). The waiting game is absolutely brutal but try to stay patient - your refund is most likely just working its way through their system normally! šŸ¤ž

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This is super helpful! I've been driving myself crazy checking my transcript every few hours like it's going to magically update lol. The part about EIC and CTC adding extra verification time really puts things in perspective - I had no idea that was even a thing. It's actually kind of reassuring to know there's a logical reason for all this waiting instead of just feeling like my return disappeared into the void. I'll definitely focus more on looking for those actual transaction codes you mentioned rather than obsessing over the as-of date. Thanks for taking the time to explain all this - really helps calm the nerves! 😊

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Ethan Moore

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I've been through this exact same situation! My as-of date bounced around 4 different times over 6 weeks before I finally saw any real movement. The date changes are basically just the IRS computer systems doing their thing - it doesn't mean anything's wrong with your return. Since you mentioned you're at 8 weeks with EIC and CTC, that's totally normal processing time for those credits. They have to do extra verification which causes all these weird date jumps. I know it's frustrating when you're waiting for your money, but try not to stress about the as-of date too much. Keep an eye out for codes like 846 (that's the golden ticket for refund issued) or any 570/971 codes that might indicate they need something from you. Hang in there - based on your timeline you should see movement soon! šŸ¤ž

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