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I'm dealing with a somewhat similar timing issue right now! My partner and I are planning to get married in late December, and after reading through all these responses, I'm now paranoid we're going to mess up the paperwork timing too. Can someone clarify - if we get our marriage license in early December and have our ceremony before December 31st, we should be good to file jointly for 2023, right? The key is making sure both the license AND the ceremony/signing happen before the end of the tax year? Also, @Carmen Diaz, I know this probably wasn't the answer you were hoping for, but at least you found out before filing! Better to deal with the disappointment now than potential IRS issues later. And honestly, reading through everyone's advice here, it sounds like there might be some silver linings to filing separately that you hadn't considered yet.

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Lucy Taylor

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! As long as you get your marriage license AND complete the ceremony (with the officiant signing the paperwork) before December 31st, you'll be legally married for the entire 2023 tax year and can file jointly. The key is that both steps need to happen - just having the license without the ceremony doesn't make you legally married, and having a ceremony without a valid license doesn't either. It sounds like you're being much more proactive about the timing than some of us were! I'd recommend double-checking with your officiant about how quickly they typically get the signed paperwork filed with your county/state, just to make sure there aren't any unexpected delays in the process. Some states also have waiting periods between when you get the license and when you can use it, so definitely verify those details with your local clerk's office. @Carmen Diaz - Connor makes a great point about finding out now rather than after filing. And honestly, reading through all the advice here about maximizing individual deductions might actually help you come out ahead anyway!

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Landon Morgan

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I'm a CPA and wanted to add some clarification to help with your situation. While everyone is correct that you'll need to file separately for 2023, there's one potential silver lining worth exploring - the "marriage penalty" vs "marriage bonus" calculation. For many couples, especially those with similar incomes, filing separately can actually result in lower combined taxes than filing jointly would have. This is because the married filing jointly brackets aren't exactly double the single brackets, and certain deductions have different phase-out limits. I'd recommend running the numbers both ways (what you'll pay filing separately vs what you would have paid filing jointly) using tax software. You might be surprised to find that the difference isn't as significant as you expected, or in some cases, you might even come out ahead. Also, make sure you're both maximizing your 401(k) contributions for 2023 if you haven't already - the individual limits are the same whether you're married or single, but your ability to fully deduct traditional IRA contributions might be different based on your separate AGIs rather than combined. The timing is frustrating, but don't let it overshadow your celebration. Congratulations on your marriage!

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Mila Walker

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Pro tip for anyone who's cutting it close to deadline: Take a picture of yourself physically handing over your tax documents to the FedEx/UPS employee along with a photo of the receipt showing the date and time. I've had the IRS question my timely filing before, and having those photos saved me from a penalty.

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Logan Scott

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This is kinda genius actually. Would a selfie work too if you're at one of those self-service kiosk things? My local FedEx is always packed on tax day.

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Something that helped me understand the private delivery service rules better was realizing that the IRS treats these services differently than USPS because they don't have "postmarks" in the traditional sense. With USPS, the postmark date is what matters, but with FedEx/UPS, it's the actual date you hand over the package that counts as your filing date. I always make sure to drop off my tax documents during business hours so there's a clear timestamp on my receipt. If you use a drop box after hours, technically that might be considered the next business day, which could be problematic if you're cutting it close to the deadline. Also worth noting - if you're filing an extension (Form 4868), the same rules apply. The private delivery service has to be on the IRS approved list, and you need that receipt as proof of timely filing.

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This is really helpful clarification about the difference between postmarks and actual handoff dates! I hadn't thought about the after-hours drop box issue - that's a great point about making sure you drop off during business hours to get a proper timestamp. Quick question though - do you know if there's any grace period if the deadline falls on a weekend? Like if April 15th is a Saturday, would dropping it off on Friday still count, or do you have to wait until Monday when the IRS offices are open?

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Amina Diallo

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If you're using TurboTax, be super careful with how you enter this! I had a similar situation and TurboTax completely messed up my self-employed health insurance deduction. It put it on the wrong form and I ended up getting a nasty letter from the IRS.

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GamerGirl99

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I had the same problem with H&R Block software. These programs really struggle with S-Corp health insurance deductions. What tax software worked for you?

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Ava Martinez

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I have W-2 income with employer health insurance for myself, but my spouse is on a separate marketplace plan because adding them to my employer plan would cost way more than their individual coverage. I also have an LLC (elected S-Corp) from freelance work. From what I've researched, the key issue is whether your employer coverage "could have" covered your family members, regardless of cost. This is where it gets tricky - technically your employer offers family coverage, even though it's unreasonably expensive at $950/month. Some tax professionals argue that if the employer coverage is prohibitively expensive compared to marketplace alternatives, you can still claim the self-employed health insurance deduction. Others take a more conservative approach and say any availability of employer family coverage disqualifies you. I'd definitely recommend getting professional advice on this specific situation since the IRS guidance isn't crystal clear on what constitutes "reasonably available" employer coverage. The potential tax savings are significant, but you want to make sure you're on solid ground if questioned.

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Kara Yoshida

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This is exactly the gray area I've been struggling with! I'm in almost the identical situation - W-2 job with expensive family coverage ($850/month) and a side S-Corp. I've been going back and forth on whether to take the deduction or not. What's really frustrating is that the IRS doesn't define what "reasonably available" means. Like, at what point does employer coverage become so expensive that it's not truly "available"? $500/month? $1000/month? There's no clear threshold. I'm leaning toward taking the deduction since the employer coverage costs 40% more than the marketplace plan, but I'm definitely keeping detailed documentation to justify the decision if needed. Has anyone here actually been audited on this specific issue and can share what the IRS's position was?

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Emma Wilson

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Don't forget about local transportation costs! If you rent a car for both the business and personal parts of the trip, you need to allocate those costs too. Only the days you used the car for business are deductible. Same goes for taxis/Ubers during your trip - only the ones related to business activities count. Like getting from your hotel to the conference venue is deductible, but taking an Uber to go sightseeing isn't.

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Malik Davis

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This is why I just put everything on my business credit card and let my accountant sort it out later lol. Too many complicated rules!

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Grant Vikers

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@Malik Davis I totally get that temptation, but you really want to be careful about mixing business and personal expenses on the same card! If you get audited, the IRS will want to see clear documentation of what was business vs personal. Having everything jumbled together on one statement actually makes your accountant s'job harder and (more expensive because) they have to go through line by line to separate things out. Plus if you can t'properly substantiate the business purpose of each expense, you might lose deductions you re'entitled to. Better to keep good records upfront than scramble during an audit!

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Gavin King

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Great question! I dealt with this exact scenario last year when I had a conference in Denver and decided to stay an extra 10 days to visit friends and ski. Since you're attending the conference August 2-5 and arriving August 1st for business purposes, those 5 days would be considered your business portion. The key thing the IRS looks at is whether your PRIMARY purpose for the trip was business - which it sounds like it was, since you're planning the vacation around an existing business conference. For domestic travel (assuming this is within the US), you should be able to deduct the entire airfare even with the extended personal stay, as long as business was your primary purpose. However, you can only deduct lodging and meals for August 1-5. Everything from August 6th onward would be personal expenses. Make sure to keep detailed records: conference registration, agendas, any business meetings or networking events you attend, receipts clearly marked with dates, etc. I also recommend keeping a simple day-by-day log noting which activities were business vs personal. One tip: if you're doing any business-related activities during your extended stay (like meeting with potential clients or visiting business contacts), those days might also qualify as business days, which could help your allocation if this were international travel.

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Paolo Longo

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Quick tip if you're preparing Form 8919 - make sure you enter code G in box c since you've filed the SS-8 but haven't received a determination. Also, you'll need to fill out the employer information in boxes d through f (name, EIN, and address). The other thing people often miss is that the amount from the 1099-NEC goes in column d (Total wages) of Form 8919, and then that same amount needs to be reported on Schedule 1 as "other income" with a note that it's also being reported on Form 8919. This prevents duplicate taxation while ensuring it's properly reported. If the software doesn't seem to be handling this correctly, try entering your 1099-NEC information, but then go back and look for a section about "Forms" or "Miscellaneous Forms" and specifically add Form 8919.

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Thanks for this specific advice! This might be exactly what I was missing when trying to use FreeTaxUSA. I'll look for the "Miscellaneous Forms" section and see if I can manually add Form 8919 there. Just to confirm - the income still shows up as "other income" but the software should then not calculate self-employment tax on it because it's being handled through Form 8919 instead?

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Diego Rojas

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Exactly right! When you properly complete Form 8919, the income shows up as "other income" on your tax return, but the software should NOT calculate self-employment tax on that amount. Instead, it calculates only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65% total) through Form 8919. The key is making sure the software knows that this income is being handled by Form 8919 rather than as self-employment income. Some software will automatically make this connection when you add Form 8919, while others require you to manually exclude the 1099-NEC income from self-employment calculations. If FreeTaxUSA still shows self-employment tax after adding Form 8919, you might need to look for a section about "self-employment income" and make sure your 1099-NEC amount isn't being counted there. The same income can't be subject to both self-employment tax AND Form 8919 - it has to be one or the other.

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through this exact situation about 8 months ago. The key thing that helped me was understanding that Form 8919 needs to be treated as a separate form in your tax software, not just an adjustment to your 1099-NEC. In FreeTaxUSA specifically, after you enter your 1099-NEC information, go to the "Federal Taxes" section and look for "Less Common Income" or "Other Tax Situations." There should be an option for "Unreported Social Security and Medicare Tax" or something similar - that's where you'll find Form 8919. When you complete Form 8919, make sure you: 1. Use reason code G (you filed SS-8 but no determination yet) 2. Enter your employer's full information 3. Put the full amount from your 1099-NEC in the wages section The software should then automatically reduce your self-employment tax and only charge you the employee portion of FICA taxes. If it's still showing the full self-employment tax, double-check that the 1099-NEC amount isn't being counted twice in different sections. One last tip - print out your completed return before filing to verify the numbers look right. You should see Form 8919 attached and your total tax should be significantly lower than if you filed as self-employed.

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Riya Sharma

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This is incredibly helpful! I've been struggling with FreeTaxUSA for weeks trying to figure out where exactly to enter Form 8919. Your step-by-step instructions about finding it under "Less Common Income" or "Other Tax Situations" is exactly what I needed. I'm going to try this approach tonight and see if I can finally get my return calculated correctly. The idea of printing it out first to verify the numbers is really smart too - I want to make sure everything looks right before I actually file. One quick question - when you say the software should "automatically reduce your self-employment tax," does that mean it should show $0 for self-employment tax, or just a reduced amount? I want to make sure I know what to expect when I see the final calculations. Thanks so much for sharing your experience with the exact same software!

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