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Great question! I just went through a similar situation when I moved $45k from Wells Fargo to a local credit union last month. The key thing to understand is that there are two different types of reporting that people often confuse: 1. **Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs)** - These are filed by banks for cash transactions over $10,000. Since you're doing electronic transfers (wire or ACH), not cash deposits, this doesn't apply to your situation. 2. **Tax reporting for income** - This only happens when you receive NEW money that counts as income. Moving your existing money between your own accounts isn't income, so there's no tax reporting required. Your $15k and $32k transfers are completely normal and won't trigger any IRS reporting. The banks might have their own internal procedures for large transfers (like temporary holds for verification), but that's different from tax reporting. One heads up though - make sure both accounts are clearly in your name with matching information. I had a minor delay because my middle initial was different on the two accounts, but the credit union sorted it out quickly once I provided ID. You're making a smart move with better interest rates! Just keep your transfer confirmations for your records, though you won't need them for tax purposes.
This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation and was worried about the same thing. Quick question - when you mention keeping transfer confirmations for records, how long should we typically hold onto those? And did your credit union give you any advance notice about potential holds on large incoming transfers, or did you just find out when it happened? I'm planning to move about $28k from my Bank of America account to a local credit union next month, and I want to make sure I'm prepared for any delays or verification steps they might require.
@d4cbfbba8a5d Great advice! For record keeping, I typically hold onto transfer confirmations for at least 3-4 years, just to be safe in case there are ever any questions about the source of funds. Some people recommend keeping them for 7 years to match the IRS statute of limitations, but that's probably overkill for simple account transfers. My credit union didn't give me advance notice about potential holds, but when I called ahead to let them know a large transfer was coming, they were really helpful. They told me that incoming wires over $25k sometimes get a 1-2 business day hold for verification, but ACH transfers usually clear faster. They also mentioned that having existing account history with them (I'd had a small savings account for about 6 months) helped speed up the process. For your $28k transfer, I'd definitely recommend calling your new credit union beforehand to ask about their policies for large incoming transfers. Some will ask for documentation showing the source of funds, so having a recent statement from your Bank of America account ready can help avoid delays.
I went through this exact same concern when I moved $23k from my checking account at a big bank to a local credit union for better rates. The anxiety about triggering IRS reporting was real! Here's what I learned: Electronic transfers between your own accounts (same name, same SSN) are not reportable events to the IRS regardless of the amount. You're not creating new income - you're just moving money you already own and have already paid taxes on when you originally earned it. The $10,000 reporting threshold everyone talks about applies specifically to CASH transactions (Currency Transaction Reports), not electronic transfers. Wire transfers, ACH transfers, and online banking transfers between your own accounts are all treated the same way - no special reporting required. For your $15k and $32k transfers, you won't have any tax implications or IRS reporting concerns. The receiving credit union might place a temporary hold for verification (mine did a 1-day hold on the larger amount), but that's just standard banking procedure, not tax-related. Pro tip: Call your new credit union ahead of time to let them know large transfers are coming. They can often expedite the verification process and reduce any holds. Also keep your transfer confirmations for your records, though you won't need them for tax purposes. You're making a smart financial move with those better interest rates - don't let reporting worries hold you back!
This is exactly the reassurance I needed! I've been stressing about this for weeks. One follow-up question - did your credit union ask for any documentation about where the money came from, or did they just process it once they saw it was coming from an account with your name on it? I'm wondering if I should proactively gather bank statements or other paperwork before initiating the transfer.
Just to add one more perspective to all the great advice here - I'm an enrolled agent and deal with this question frequently during tax season. The key point everyone has made about "cash basis" reporting is absolutely correct, but I want to emphasize something important for your tax planning. Since those December wages will show up on your 2025 W2 instead of 2024, make sure you're not accidentally underestimating your 2025 income when planning ahead. I've seen clients get caught off guard because they forgot about that extra pay period rolling into the new tax year, especially if they're close to income thresholds for deductions or credits. Also, if you typically make estimated tax payments or adjust your withholding based on previous year income, remember to account for this timing difference. That December pay period might push you into a different situation than you're expecting for 2025. The IRS Publication 15 (Employer's Tax Guide) specifically addresses this if you want to see the official guidance, but everyone here has given you the correct answer - it's 100% based on when you receive payment, not when you earned it.
This is incredibly helpful perspective from a tax professional! The point about not underestimating 2025 income is something I definitely wouldn't have thought about on my own. It makes total sense that having that extra December pay period roll into 2025 could affect income thresholds for various deductions and credits. I'm actually in a situation where I'm borderline for some income-based phase-outs, so this timing could really matter for my tax planning. Do you happen to know if there's a rule of thumb for how much this typically affects annual income? I'm trying to figure out if I need to adjust my 2025 withholding or estimated payments to account for essentially having 27 pay periods worth of income in 2025 instead of the usual 26. Thanks for mentioning Publication 15 too - I'll definitely look that up to see the official guidance!
Great question about the 27 vs 26 pay period impact! The exact amount depends on your pay frequency and company's payroll calendar, but you're right to think about this proactively. For someone paid bi-weekly, most years have 26 pay periods, but every 11 years or so there's a year with 27 due to calendar timing. If you're getting that December pay period pushed into 2025, you could essentially be looking at 27 pay periods worth of income in 2025. For planning purposes, that's roughly 3.8% more annual income than normal (1/26 = 3.8%). If you're near phase-out thresholds, this could definitely matter. I'd suggest running some quick calculations with your expected salary to see if this pushes you over any important income limits. For withholding adjustments, you might want to increase your withholding rate slightly in early 2025 or make a small estimated payment to account for the extra income. Your payroll department can help you calculate the right adjustment if you explain the situation to them.
The cash basis rule for W2 reporting has been explained perfectly by everyone here, but I wanted to add one practical consideration that might help you sleep better at night: this timing difference is incredibly common and payroll systems are designed to handle it properly. Your employer processes hundreds or thousands of these year-end transitions, so while their "depends on our accounting system" answer wasn't very helpful, they're likely following standard procedures that ensure everything gets reported correctly. The fact that they mentioned their accounting system actually suggests they have established cutoff dates and procedures for this exact situation. One thing I'd recommend is sending a quick email to your payroll department asking for written confirmation of which tax year your final December pay period will be reported on. This gives you documentation for your records and forces them to give you a definitive answer rather than being vague about it. Most payroll departments can tell you this immediately since they have to plan their year-end W2 processing schedule well in advance. Having that written confirmation will also be helpful if you need to reference it later when doing your taxes or if any discrepancies come up on your W2 forms.
Everyone is overcomplicating this. The real question is whether the trust itself is engaged in business activities. If the trust just holds passive investments, it's not a trade or business. Look at Revenue Ruling 84-52. If a grantor trust isn't engaged in business activities, it doesn't have to file information returns. The trustee isn't required to file 1099s for payments that aren't connected to a trade or business.
Thanks for mentioning Revenue Ruling 84-52! That's exactly the type of specific guidance I was looking for. But I'm still a bit confused how to apply this. In this case, the trust holds various investments that generate income, and the daughter is actively managing those investments (buying/selling, rebalancing, etc.). Would that qualify as business activities even if the trust itself isn't operating a business?
The investment activities you're describing (buying/selling securities, rebalancing portfolios) generally don't constitute a "trade or business" for a trust. These are considered passive investment activities, even if they're actively managed. For a trust to be engaged in a trade or business, it would typically need to be operating an actual business enterprise - like if the trust owned and operated a retail store, rental properties, or provided services to customers. Simply managing investments, even actively, doesn't rise to the level of trade or business for 1099-NEC requirements.
Accounting professional here. My firm handles dozens of grantor trusts, and we generally take the conservative approach and issue 1099-NECs for service providers paid over $600, even to family members. Here's why: 1) The penalty for not filing a required 1099 can be substantial ($280 per form for 2025) 2) Filing a 1099 doesn't create additional tax implications if the income would be reported anyway 3) The IRS has been increasingly strict about information reporting requirements If you're uncertain, issuing the 1099-NEC is the safer approach. It documents the payment properly and doesn't create any negative consequences if it turns out it wasn't strictly required.
@Kingston Bellamy That s'a really important distinction! I wasn t'aware of the Goodwin case or Rev. Rul. 58-5. So if the daughter is essentially acting as a trustee or in a trustee-like capacity for the grantor trust, those fees might avoid self-employment tax entirely even if a 1099-NEC is issued? This seems like it could be the best of both worlds - issue the 1099-NEC for proper information reporting avoiding (penalties but) the recipient can still report it as other "income rather" than Schedule C income. Do you know if there are specific criteria that need to be met for this trustee fee exception to apply?
The trustee fee exception applies when the services performed are essentially trustee duties - things like investment management, asset protection, and fiduciary oversight. The key factors courts look at include: 1) Whether the person has discretionary authority over trust assets, 2) Whether they're performing ongoing fiduciary duties rather than one-time services, and 3) Whether the compensation is reasonable for trustee-type services. In Rev. Rul. 58-5, the IRS specifically stated that trustee fees are not subject to self-employment tax because trustees are not engaged in a "trade or business" - they're performing fiduciary duties. This applies even to family members serving as trustees. So if the daughter in this case is essentially acting as a trustee or investment manager with ongoing fiduciary responsibilities (rather than just providing occasional investment advice), the trustee fee exception would likely apply. She could report the 1099-NEC income as "other income" on Schedule 1 instead of Schedule C, avoiding the SE tax burden.
This literally happened to me last year! The quickest solution is definitely USPS mail forwarding - set it up today if you haven't already. It costs like $1.10 online and takes about 3 minutes to set up. My refund check got forwarded with no issues.
I work as a tax preparer and see this issue frequently. Here's what I always tell my clients in this situation: 1. **USPS mail forwarding is your immediate safety net** - Set it up TODAY online at usps.com. It's $1.10 and takes effect within 7-10 business days. IRS refund checks ARE forwarded as first-class mail. 2. **Call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040** - Yes, the wait times are brutal, but if you can get through, they can update your address in their system immediately. Best times to call are early morning (7-8 AM) or try the services others mentioned if you're struggling to connect. 3. **File Form 8822** - Even if it's too late to affect this refund, it updates your address for all future correspondence. The good news is that if your refund hasn't been processed yet (check "Where's My Refund" on irs.gov), you have time to fix this. Most refunds take 21+ days to process, so you likely have a window to get your address updated. Don't stress too much - between mail forwarding and the IRS address update, you should be covered. This is more common than you think!
This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to set up the USPS forwarding right now since that seems to be the most reliable backup plan. Quick question though - when you say "most refunds take 21+ days to process," does that timeline start from when the IRS accepts the return electronically, or from when they actually start processing it? I filed about 10 days ago and my return was accepted, but I'm not sure where I am in that 21-day window. Just trying to figure out how much time I have to get the address situation sorted out.
Emma Wilson
I work in medical billing and deal with DME valuations regularly. For prosthetic limbs specifically, you'll want to contact either the original manufacturer or a certified prosthetist for the appraisal. Many prosthetists are qualified to provide fair market value assessments since they understand depreciation rates and condition factors for these devices. A few things to keep in mind: prosthetics typically retain 30-60% of their original value depending on age, condition, and whether they're current generation technology. Since yours are still in good condition but older models, you're probably looking at the lower end of that range. Also, make sure Shriners can actually accept used prosthetics - some hospitals have strict policies about accepting used medical devices due to hygiene and liability concerns. I'd recommend calling them first to confirm they can use the donation before going through the appraisal process. The tax benefits are definitely worth pursuing given the original cost, but getting everything documented properly upfront will save you headaches later if the IRS has questions.
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Ravi Gupta
ā¢This is really helpful information! I'm curious - when you say "certified prosthetist," are there specific certifications I should look for? I want to make sure whoever does the appraisal meets IRS requirements for qualified appraisers. Also, do you know if the appraisal needs to be done before the donation or can it be done after as long as it's before I file my taxes?
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Honorah King
ā¢Look for a Certified Prosthetist (CP) or Certified Prosthetist-Orthotist (CPO) - these are the main certifications recognized by the American Board for Certification in Orthotics, Prosthetics & Pedorthics (ABC). They have the expertise to properly assess prosthetic devices and their current market value. The appraisal should ideally be done within 60 days of the donation date, but it can be completed after you make the donation as long as it's before you file your return. However, I'd recommend getting it done beforehand so you know the exact value for your records and can ensure everything is properly documented. One more tip from my experience - take detailed photos of the prosthetics before donation showing their condition. This can be helpful documentation to support the appraiser's assessment and provides additional backup if there are ever any questions about the claimed value.
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Connor Gallagher
This is such a generous thing to do! I went through something similar when my mom passed away and we had to figure out what to do with her oxygen concentrator and mobility scooter. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - make sure you get a detailed receipt from Shriners that specifically describes what you're donating (model numbers, serial numbers if available, general condition). The IRS can be pretty picky about documentation for high-value donations, and having everything spelled out clearly will help if they ever question the deduction. Also, keep copies of your original purchase receipts, insurance claims, and any maintenance records you might have. This documentation helps establish the original cost basis and shows you took proper care of the equipment, which can support a higher valuation. The appraisal route definitely sounds like the way to go given the original cost. Even if the appraisal costs a few hundred dollars, you'll likely come out way ahead on the tax savings. Good luck with the donation - I'm sure it will really help someone!
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Jungleboo Soletrain
ā¢This is really great advice about documentation! I'm actually new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. My father-in-law recently passed and left behind a lot of expensive medical equipment including a power wheelchair and a BiPAP machine that we'd like to donate. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about Form 8283 or the appraisal requirements. The tip about getting detailed receipts with model and serial numbers is especially useful since I wouldn't have thought to ask for that level of detail. Does anyone know if there are different rules for donating equipment from someone who has passed away versus donating your own used equipment? I want to make sure I handle the estate aspects correctly too.
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