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CyberSamurai

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I can relate to your stress about that confusing message! I received the exact same notification from Input Correction ERS/Rejects about 6 weeks ago and had the same panic thinking they denied my refund. But "return closed" actually means they completed whatever review or correction was needed on your return - it's good news, not bad! The ERS department handles returns flagged for manual review, so this message indicates they resolved the issue and your return is moving forward in the system. The late night timing (8:59 PM) is completely normal - their automated system processes these updates 24/7 whenever they finish reviewing cases. I ended up getting my refund deposited 9 days after receiving that message. Since they specifically said not to respond, just don't reply and keep checking Where's My Refund every few days. Your refund should show up within the next week or two! šŸ™šŸ’°

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@CyberSamurai Thank you so much for sharing your experience! 9 days is even faster than some of the other timelines people have shared here. It's such a relief to hear from so many people who went through the exact same thing and got their refunds. I was literally googling "IRS return closed meaning" at 3 AM last night because I was so worried. Your explanation really helps - I had no clue what ERS meant and it sounded so official and scary. I'm going to try to relax and just check Where's My Refund every few days like you suggested instead of obsessing over it every hour šŸ˜…

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Adriana Cohn

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Hey Chloe! I totally get why you're freaking out - that message is super confusing and scary when you first get it. But honestly, you can breathe easy now! I got that exact same "return closed" message from Input Correction ERS/Rejects about a month ago and was having a full panic attack thinking they denied my refund. Turns out it's actually GOOD news! When they say "closed the return" they mean they finished fixing whatever issue was holding up your return - not that you're denied. The ERS team (Error Resolution System) handles returns that need manual review or corrections. So this message basically means "we found the problem, we fixed it, and now your return can move forward for processing." The 8:59 PM timing is totally normal too - their system sends these automated updates whenever they complete their review, even super late at night. Mine came at like 11:30 PM and I thought that was sus too lol. I ended up getting my refund deposited exactly 13 days after getting that message. Don't reply since they said not to - just keep checking Where's My Refund every couple days and your bank account. Your money is definitely coming! The waiting sucks but you're actually in the home stretch now šŸ’°šŸ™

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Cass Green

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@Adriana Cohn This is so helpful, thank you! I was literally having a panic attack when I first got that message because the wording made it sound like they were shutting down my case or something. Your explanation about ERS being the Error Resolution System makes it so much clearer - I wish the IRS would just say that instead of using confusing language! 13 days isn t'too bad at all, and knowing that so many people here went through the exact same thing and got their refunds is giving me so much relief. I m'definitely going to stop checking my bank account every 5 minutes now šŸ˜… Thanks for taking the time to break it all down!

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Don't panic! This is actually a very common situation and you're likely in good shape. Since you lived in the home as your primary residence for exactly 5 years, you definitely qualify for the Section 121 exclusion. With a $255,000 gain and assuming you're married filing jointly, you're well under the $500,000 exclusion limit, so you shouldn't owe any capital gains tax. The IRS letter is basically their automated system saying "we saw you sold property but didn't report it on your return." They're not accusing you of anything - they just want the paperwork to show why no tax is due on the sale. You can respond to the letter with the completed Schedule D and Form 8949 showing the sale and the exclusion. Make sure to include any improvement costs in your basis calculation (like that $30k in renovations mentioned by another poster) as this reduces your gain even further. The letter should have specific instructions on what forms to include and where to send them. This is much simpler than filing a full amended return, and once they receive your response showing the exclusion applies, they'll typically send a letter closing the matter with no additional tax due. I've seen this exact scenario dozens of times - it's routine correspondence, not a red flag for audits or anything to worry about long-term.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone with experience! I'm in almost the same boat - got an IRS notice about not reporting a home sale and I've been stressed about it for weeks. Quick question though - when you mention including improvement costs, do things like regular maintenance and repairs count, or does it have to be actual capital improvements? We painted the whole house and replaced the HVAC system before selling, but I'm not sure what qualifies.

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Zara Shah

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Great question about what counts as improvements versus maintenance! The key distinction is that capital improvements add value to your home, extend its useful life, or adapt it for new uses - these can be added to your cost basis. Regular maintenance and repairs just keep your home in good condition and generally don't count. From what you mentioned: replacing the HVAC system would definitely count as a capital improvement since it's a major system replacement that adds value and extends the home's life. Painting is trickier - if it was just regular maintenance painting, it typically doesn't count. But if you painted as part of preparing the home for sale or it was extensive work that significantly improved the appearance, some tax professionals argue it could be included. Keep detailed records of everything - receipts, contracts, etc. The IRS likes documentation. Even if some expenses don't qualify as improvements, having good records shows you're being thorough and honest. In your case, with the HVAC replacement alone, you're probably looking at several thousand dollars you can add to your basis, which reduces your gain even further. When in doubt, include the improvement costs that clearly qualify (like the HVAC) and be conservative about borderline items like painting unless you have a tax professional review it.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! Got the dreaded IRS letter about forgetting to report my home sale and was convinced I was in serious trouble. Turns out it's incredibly common and the IRS just wants the paperwork to match their records. Since you lived there for 5 years as your primary residence, you're golden for the Section 121 exclusion. With your $255k gain, you're well under the limits whether you're single ($250k exclusion) or married filing jointly ($500k exclusion). I responded to the letter with just the Schedule D and Form 8949 showing the sale and exclusion - didn't need to file a full amended return. Make sure to include any home improvements in your cost basis calculation to reduce the gain even more. The whole process took about 6 weeks from when I mailed my response to getting the "case closed" letter from the IRS. The key is responding promptly with the right forms. Don't ignore the letter, but also don't panic - this is totally routine and you'll likely owe nothing once they see the exclusion applies!

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Ella Lewis

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Does anyone know if jury duty pay that you give to your employer counts as an above the line deduction? My company requires us to turn over jury duty pay but still pays our regular salary while serving. I thought I saw somewhere this was deductible above the line.

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Mia Alvarez

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Yes, that's correct! If you turned over your jury duty pay to your employer (because they continued paying your regular salary), you can deduct that amount as an above-the-line deduction on Schedule 1. It's one of the less common deductions, but definitely valid. Just make sure to report the jury duty pay as income first, then deduct the same amount on the "other adjustments" line with a note that it was jury duty pay given to employer.

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Yara Nassar

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Great question! Above the line deductions are definitely worth understanding, especially with your side business. The key thing to remember is that these deductions reduce your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI), which is line 11 on Form 1040, and you get them regardless of whether you itemize or take the standard deduction. For your situation specifically: Yes, your self-employed health insurance premiums, IRA contributions, and student loan interest are all above the line deductions. Since you have a side business, you'll also want to look into the qualified business income (QBI) deduction under Section 199A - it can be huge for small business owners. One thing people often miss is that your business expenses from the side gig go on Schedule C and reduce your business income before it even gets to your main tax return. Then any remaining self-employment tax gets a 50% deduction above the line. The "above vs below the line" terminology comes from where these appear on your tax return - above the line means they reduce your AGI, while below the line deductions (like itemized deductions) only reduce your taxable income after AGI is calculated. Lower AGI can help you qualify for more credits and deductions that phase out at higher income levels.

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Cole Roush

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This is a really comprehensive breakdown! I'm just starting to learn about taxes as a new taxpayer and the explanation about AGI vs taxable income really clicked for me. One quick question - you mentioned that business expenses go on Schedule C before they even hit the main return. Does that mean if I have a side business with $5,000 income but $2,000 in expenses, only the net $3,000 shows up as self-employment income on my 1040? And then I'd get the 50% deduction on the self-employment tax calculated from that $3,000?

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Oliver Becker

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Exactly right! You've got it. Your Schedule C would show $5,000 in income and $2,000 in business expenses, giving you a net profit of $3,000. That $3,000 is what flows to your Form 1040 as self-employment income. Then you'd calculate self-employment tax on that $3,000 (which is about 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare taxes). Let's say that comes out to about $459 in self-employment tax. You'd then get to deduct half of that ($229) as an above-the-line deduction on your 1040. This is actually a really smart way the tax code works - it prevents you from paying both income tax AND self-employment tax on the full amount by giving you that deduction for the "employer portion" of the self-employment tax. It's one of those deductions that many new business owners don't realize they're entitled to! Make sure to keep good records of all your business expenses throughout the year. Even small purchases like office supplies, mileage, or a portion of your home internet can add up and reduce that taxable business income.

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Grace Lee

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Yall are overthinking this. Just keep good records, pay your quarterly estimates based on last year's income (100% of prior year tax is safe harbor to avoid penalties), and let your CPA sort it out at tax time. The 30% rule is fine if you're making decent money, might be overkill if you're just starting out. Use the rest to grow your biz!

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Emily Sanjay

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That's super reassuring, thanks! We definitely want to follow the rules but also not handicap our growth in these early stages. I'll talk to our CPA about the safe harbor provision you mentioned.

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As someone who went through this exact same situation when I started my partnership two years ago, I completely understand the stress! The 30% rule felt crushing when we were barely breaking even. Here's what I learned: that percentage includes federal income tax, self-employment tax (15.3%), and potential state taxes. But the actual amount you'll owe depends heavily on your business expenses and personal tax situation. A few things that helped us reduce our tax burden: - Maxing out business expense deductions (software subscriptions, office supplies, professional services) - Setting up a SEP-IRA for retirement contributions (big tax deduction) - Keeping meticulous records for vehicle use, client meals, and home office space - Timing major business purchases strategically Our first year we set aside the full 30% and ended up with a nice refund. Now we're more comfortable with 23-24% because we have a better handle on our deduction patterns. The key is working with your CPA to project your specific situation rather than relying on generic advice. Every partnership is different based on profit splits, other income sources, and expense levels. Good luck with your call tomorrow!

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Ava Thompson

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Has anyone ever had success getting the withholding returned directly from the IRA custodian instead of waiting for tax filing? I had a similar situation last year with Fidelity and after enough complaining they actually reversed the transaction completely and reprocessed it correctly as a return of contribution with no withholding.

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CyberSiren

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I actually did this with Vanguard a couple years ago. The key was that I caught it and called them within like 2 weeks of the distribution. They were able to basically cancel it and redo it properly before they had sent the withholding to the IRS. But I think once they've sent that money to the government, you're probably stuck waiting for your tax refund.

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This is a frustrating situation but definitely fixable! You're right that this should have been processed as a return of contribution rather than a regular distribution. The 20% withholding was unfortunate but standard procedure when custodians process regular withdrawals. A few key points to help you navigate this: 1. **Timing matters**: Since this was a same-year contribution and withdrawal, you have a good case for treating it as a return of contribution, which would avoid the 10% early withdrawal penalty. 2. **Documentation is crucial**: When you file your 2025 return, include a clear statement explaining that this was intended as a return of excess contribution made in the same tax year. Be specific about the dates of both the contribution and withdrawal. 3. **Check your 1099-R**: Look at Box 7 for the distribution code. If it shows "1" (early distribution), you might want to contact your IRA custodian to see if they can issue a corrected form with code "8" (return of contribution). This could save you headaches later. 4. **The withholding will come back**: You'll get that $1,400 back when you file your return - it will be credited as taxes paid, likely resulting in a larger refund. The silver lining is that this is a common enough situation that tax software and preparers know how to handle it properly. Just make sure to document everything clearly!

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