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Great question! I see you've gotten some excellent explanations already, but let me add one practical tip that might help clarify things for you. When you file your taxes, you'll report your $5,800 HSA contribution on Form 8889, and this creates what's called an "above-the-line" deduction on Line 13 of Form 1040. This is actually better than itemized deductions because it reduces your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) regardless of whether you take the standard deduction or itemize. To put it simply: if you're in the 22% tax bracket, your $5,800 contribution will save you roughly $1,276 in federal taxes ($5,800 Γ— 0.22). However, the exact savings depend on your total income and which tax brackets that income falls into. One thing to double-check: make sure your $5,800 doesn't exceed the 2024 HSA contribution limits. For individual coverage it's $4,150, and for family coverage it's $8,300 (plus $1,000 catch-up if you're 55+). If you contributed more than your limit, you'll need to withdraw the excess to avoid penalties. The key takeaway is that HSA contributions are one of the best tax advantages available - you get the deduction now, the money grows tax-free, and qualified withdrawals are tax-free too. It's truly "triple tax-advantaged.

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for the clear breakdown! I'm new to HSAs and this really helps. Quick question - you mentioned the 2024 limits are $4,150 for individual and $8,300 for family, but I thought I saw $3,850 and $7,750 somewhere else in this thread. Which numbers are correct? I want to make sure I don't accidentally over-contribute and get hit with penalties.

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Haley Bennett

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Good catch! I made an error with those contribution limits. The correct 2024 HSA contribution limits are $4,300 for individual coverage and $8,550 for family coverage (plus $1,000 catch-up if you're 55+). The $3,850/$7,750 numbers mentioned earlier in the thread were actually the 2024 limits, but I mistakenly cited outdated figures. The IRS adjusts these limits annually for inflation, so it's always good to double-check the current year's limits. Since you contributed $5,800 and mentioned it was manual contributions, make sure you have family coverage to stay within the $8,550 limit. If you only have individual coverage, you'd be over the $4,300 limit and would need to withdraw the excess before your tax filing deadline to avoid penalties. Thanks for keeping me honest on those numbers!

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Mateo Rodriguez

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I wanted to clarify something important about the HSA contribution limits that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. For 2024, the correct HSA contribution limits are actually $4,150 for individual coverage and $8,300 for family coverage, with an additional $1,000 catch-up contribution allowed if you're 55 or older. I noticed there was some confusion earlier with different numbers being cited. These limits are set by the IRS and published in Revenue Procedure 2023-23. Since Dylan mentioned contributing $5,800, this would be fine if he has family coverage ($8,300 limit) but would exceed the individual coverage limit. To Dylan's original question about how the deduction works: When you report your HSA contributions on Form 8889, the deduction reduces your taxable income dollar-for-dollar. So if you're in the 22% marginal tax bracket, you'd save approximately $1,276 in federal taxes ($5,800 Γ— 0.22). This assumes you're solidly within that bracket and not crossing into a lower one due to the deduction. The key thing to remember is that this is different from a tax credit - it's a deduction that reduces your taxable income, which then reduces your tax liability based on your marginal tax rate.

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Amara Okafor

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Thanks for the clarification on the contribution limits! As someone just starting to navigate HSAs, this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. I was actually making the same mistake as Dylan - thinking I'd get some kind of direct refund percentage rather than understanding it's a deduction that reduces taxable income. One follow-up question: If I'm contributing through payroll deduction (to get those FICA tax savings mentioned earlier), do I still need to file Form 8889? Or does that form only apply when you make manual contributions from already-taxed money like Dylan did? Also, is there any benefit to splitting contributions between payroll deduction and manual contributions, or should I just maximize the payroll route for the additional FICA savings?

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Zainab Mahmoud

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I've been following this discussion with great interest as someone who's currently weighing the same decision! The insights from everyone who's actually worked at both companies have been invaluable. What really stands out to me is how the choice seems to depend on your learning style and career goals. If you're someone who needs to understand the foundational "why" behind tax concepts (like me), Liberty's manual approach sounds beneficial despite the teaching style challenges Maya mentioned. But if you're more focused on getting job-ready quickly with practical software skills, H&R Block's digital approach seems like the better fit. The pay difference Isaac mentioned is definitely significant - that extra $2-3/hour really adds up over a tax season. But I'm also thinking about the long-term career trajectory that Julian highlighted. Having a clear advancement path and professional development opportunities might be worth more than the immediate hourly difference. I'm leaning toward starting with whichever program fits my schedule better (since consistency in training seems crucial) and then potentially exploring opportunities with the other company once I have some foundation. The hybrid approach several people mentioned - getting strong fundamentals from one program and practical skills from another - seems like it could make someone a really well-rounded tax preparer. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences! This is exactly the kind of real-world insight you can't get from company brochures.

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Daniel White

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This has been such an enlightening discussion! As a complete newcomer to tax preparation, I'm really grateful for all the detailed experiences everyone has shared. Zainab, I think you've captured the key decision factors perfectly - it really does seem to come down to learning style and career goals. Reading through all these responses, I'm starting to think the "right" choice might be less about which company is objectively better and more about which approach aligns with how you learn best and what you want to achieve. The hybrid approach that keeps coming up is really intriguing to me. It sounds like getting that solid theoretical foundation from Liberty's manual method, then potentially adding practical software skills later, could create a really well-rounded skill set. Plus, as Isaac mentioned, having experience with different companies' approaches might actually make you more valuable in the long run. I'm also inspired by Mikayla's suggestion about the VITA program - combining commercial training with volunteer work seems like it would provide both breadth and depth of experience while also giving back to the community. For those of us just starting out, it's reassuring to hear that clients care more about competence and service than which company trained you. That takes some pressure off making the "perfect" choice and puts the focus back on actually mastering the skills, regardless of where you learn them. Thanks again to everyone for sharing such valuable insights!

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Mei Chen

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Maya, I completely understand your dilemma! I went through something very similar last year when I was choosing between tax prep programs. From my research and talking to people in both programs, here's what I found most helpful in making the decision: **Consider your long-term goals first.** If you're planning to do this seasonally for extra income, H&R Block's faster software training might be perfect. But if you want to eventually become an EA or work at a CPA firm, that deeper foundation from Liberty's manual approach could be invaluable. **The teaching style issue is real and important.** I ended up switching programs mid-course because the instructor's approach just wasn't clicking for me. Don't underestimate how much this affects your learning - you're investing time and money, so make sure you're actually absorbing the material effectively. **Try before you fully commit.** Most H&R Block locations will let you sit in on a sample session or at least talk through their curriculum approach. Since you're already partway through Liberty, this could help you decide if it's worth switching now or finishing Liberty and potentially supplementing later. The pay difference you mentioned is definitely real in most markets, and the work environment differences Julian described are worth considering too. But remember - your success will ultimately depend on how well you master the material and serve clients, regardless of which company's name is on your certificate. Whatever you decide, don't feel bad about prioritizing what works best for your learning style and goals!

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Sophia Long

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I totally get your weekend panic - been there myself! Unfortunately no IRS phone support on weekends, but here's what helped me in a similar situation: First, if your notice has a specific response deadline, don't stress too much about calling immediately. Most IRS notices give you 30+ days to respond, and you can often handle everything by mail without needing to call at all. Second, definitely check if you can access your IRS online account this weekend. Sometimes you can find transcripts or additional details about your notice that make the situation clearer. If you absolutely need to talk to someone Monday, I'd suggest calling right at 7 AM when they open - wait times are usually shortest then. Also consider that many IRS issues that seem urgent actually aren't as time-sensitive as they feel when you're stressed. What type of notice did you receive? Sometimes knowing the specific form (CP2000, CP3219, etc.) can help determine if it's truly urgent or if you have more time than you think.

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Paolo Ricci

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the online account option - is it pretty straightforward to set up if you don't already have one? And how quickly can you usually get access? I'm wondering if that might be a good weekend option for the original poster to at least get some clarity on their notice before Monday.

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Tate Jensen

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Setting up an IRS online account is usually pretty quick if you have the right documents handy! You'll need your SSN, filing status, prior year AGI (or PIN if you used one), and a phone number associated with your account. The identity verification process typically takes just a few minutes. The tricky part is that you need either a credit card, mortgage, or auto loan to complete the ID verification, so if you don't have any of those it won't work. But if you do have those, you could potentially get access tonight and at least see your account transcripts which might give you more context about that notice you received.

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Emma Anderson

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Hey Daniel! I feel your weekend panic - I've been in that exact situation before where you get an IRS notice and can't sleep until it's resolved. Unfortunately, like others mentioned, the IRS phone lines are definitely closed on weekends. But here's what I'd suggest for right now while you're stressed on a Friday night: First, take a deep breath! Most IRS notices aren't as scary as they seem at first glance, and you almost certainly have more time than you think to respond properly. If you haven't already, try setting up that IRS online account tonight - you might be able to see your tax transcripts and get a better understanding of what's going on. Sometimes just having more information helps reduce the panic. Also, what type of notice did you get? The notice code (like CP2000, CP14, etc.) is usually at the top right. That can help determine how urgent it really is. Many people think they need to call immediately, but often you can respond by mail with the right documentation, which might actually be better than calling anyway since you'll have everything in writing. Hang in there - Monday will come soon enough, and this will get sorted out!

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StarGazer101

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This is such solid advice, Emma! I'm dealing with my first IRS notice ever and honestly I've been spiraling all week thinking I'm in huge trouble. Reading everyone's responses here is really helping me realize I might be overthinking this whole thing. @dd1b8aa2a47e You mentioned that most notices aren't as scary as they seem - is there a good resource for understanding what the different notice types actually mean? I got a CP2000 and from what I'm reading here it sounds like it might not be the end of the world that I initially thought it was. Just want to make sure I understand what I'm dealing with before I either call Monday or try to respond by mail.

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Jamal Brown

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This is such a common struggle for single-member LLC owners! I went through the exact same confusion in my first year. One thing that really helped me understand the separation was thinking of it this way: your LLC earns the money, but YOU (as an individual) owe the taxes on that income. So the flow should be: Business pays all legitimate business expenses β†’ Business makes distributions to you personally β†’ You pay your individual tax obligations (SE tax, income tax, etc.) from your personal funds. For practical implementation, I set up automatic quarterly transfers from my business account to personal, calculated as roughly 25-30% of my net business income. This covers estimated taxes and prevents me from accidentally spending tax money on business expenses. I also keep a simple spreadsheet tracking each distribution with the purpose noted. The health insurance situation you mentioned is totally normal - many providers only accept personal payments. Just do a clean transfer for the exact premium amount and document it as "distribution for health insurance premium." You'll still get the deduction on your personal return.

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This is really helpful! I like the way you explained it as "the LLC earns the money, but YOU owe the taxes." That makes it click for me. The 25-30% automatic transfer idea is brilliant - I've been manually calculating each quarter and sometimes I miscalculate or forget. Quick question about the spreadsheet tracking - do you include both the business-to-personal transfers AND the actual tax payments to the IRS? Or just the distributions? I'm trying to figure out the best way to document everything for my records.

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@8ff83affbe5a I track both in my spreadsheet - it creates a complete picture. I have columns for: Date, Business→Personal Transfer Amount, Purpose (like "Q1 estimated taxes"), then separate columns for the actual tax payments with dates and amounts. This way I can see if my estimated transfers matched what I actually needed to pay, and it helps me adjust future quarterly amounts. The key is being able to show the IRS (if ever questioned) that business funds went through proper distributions before paying personal tax obligations. Having both sides documented proves you're not commingling - the business distributed properly, and you paid taxes from legitimate personal funds.

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Ava Johnson

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One thing I learned the hard way is to be really consistent with your documentation from day one. I got lazy with labeling my transfers in year one and it created a mess when my accountant was preparing my taxes. A simple naming convention makes all the difference - I use "Owner Draw - Quarterly Tax Q1 2024" for tax distributions and "Owner Draw - Health Insurance March 2024" for health-related transfers. This way there's never any question about what each transfer was for if the IRS ever looks at your records. Also, don't forget that estimated tax payments should include both your income tax AND self-employment tax portions. I initially was only calculating income tax for my quarterly transfers and got behind on SE tax. A good rule of thumb is to set aside about 15.3% specifically for SE tax plus whatever your income tax rate is. Better to overpay and get a refund than to underpay and owe penalties!

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Zainab Ismail

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This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I wish I had when I started my LLC! The naming convention tip is gold - I've been using generic labels like "transfer to personal" which tells me nothing months later when I'm trying to reconcile everything. Quick question about the SE tax calculation - when you say 15.3%, is that on the full business income or just the net profit after business expenses? I want to make sure I'm setting aside the right amount and not short-changing myself on quarterly payments.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're paying $1,890/month with only a $340 subsidy, you might qualify for a larger subsidy depending on your income. The ACA subsidies were expanded for 2023-2025. Might be worth double-checking on healthcare.gov if your marketplace plan is giving you the maximum subsidy you're entitled to. Could save you more money than any tax deduction!

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Mei Wong

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The key thing to understand is that there are actually TWO different types of health insurance deductions, and most people (including tax software) get them confused: 1. **Self-employed health insurance deduction** - This is the "above-the-line" deduction that reduces your AGI directly. You DON'T qualify for this since you're not self-employed. 2. **Medical expense itemized deduction** - This is where your ACA premiums (minus subsidies) can potentially be deducted, but only if you itemize AND your total medical expenses exceed 7.5% of your AGI. Based on your numbers ($32k AGI, $18,600 in net premiums after subsidies), you'd easily clear the 7.5% threshold ($2,400). The question is whether itemizing makes sense overall. Here's what I'd suggest: Make sure you're capturing ALL your medical expenses - not just premiums. Include copays, prescriptions, dental work, vision care, medical equipment, even mileage to medical appointments. Also don't forget about state income taxes paid, property taxes (if any), and charitable donations for your itemized total. Your situation actually looks like a good candidate for itemizing, unlike most ACA marketplace participants. Definitely worth running the numbers both ways before filing!

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Joy Olmedo

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I've been lurking here trying to understand my own health insurance deduction situation and this really clarifies the difference between the two types. Quick question - when you mention including "mileage to medical appointments," is there a standard rate for that? I drive about 45 minutes each way to see my specialist twice a month, so that could add up over the year if it's deductible.

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